official chart HDD: Nicki 223k, Taylor 106k, Tate 66k (FINAL)

[romas_ld]

16 minutes ago, Zolanski. said:

 

Discounting is only one tactic - my point still stands that multiple artists are using a variety of tactics to help their numbers. It doesn't matter what tactic is used, MULTIPLE artists are using them. Since you want to play dumb all of a sudden, your fave is a prime example of using all available tactics (thanks @lgaga1fan ).

 

Reputation:

- encouraged fans to buy multiple albums in order to get presale access

- had ticketmaster partner with her to create this system that tracked every individual sale of the album in order to leverage her chart potential

- the tour didnt even sell out instantaneously like the Eras tour so this system really showed how it was created in order to help her maximize its chart potential

- took the album off of streaming entirely for weeks in order to maximize its charting potential  

 

Lover:

- released with 4 exclusive target albums

- gave presale access to her tour early for fans that bought the album + reputation tour tickets

- released SEVERAL remixes of Cruel Summer this year alone in order to push it over to #1  

 

Midnights:

- encouraged fans to buy the album and merch for the album in order to get access to the tour presale

- discounted singles to maximize chart points and positions  

 

Evermore:

- discounted willow for a chance at securing #1

- Released extensive remixes for willow in order to get it to chart high  

 

Folklore:

- Had 16 vinyl variants available for purchase release week that didn't even ship out til months later

 

 

I mean 16 VINYL VARIANTS is INSANE but whatever  

So now what?  

Amazing how all these tactics are still working cause there’s no way she has most of her albums inside Top 20 every week without it 

[Aethereal]

Anything around 180K would be a success. I expected 210K as the bare maximum (considering Queen did 185K and this era had a bigger no. 1 + Tik Tok viral moments), 223K is simply beyond any positive expectations.

[dumbsparce]

She won. Plain and simple. It remains to be seen if she'll serve longevity but she obviously still is impactful upon arrival.

[Klein]

Another 400k+ week for Taylor. At this point she might even reach 19M units this year. Since the 17M figure, she moved 448k, 360k and 385k from just her top 50 albums. So probably around 1.3M in total. 700k seems very doable in the remaining two weeks. 

 

folklore holding on to the top 10 is just so pleasing to see. 

[ultraviolence.xx]

43 minutes ago, justin. said:

Who else had to discount their album to $5 during release week? Quickly. 

i guess you conveniently forgot Born This Way first week, huh? a $5 discount is nothing!

[Pheromosa]

alright billboard, the ball is in your court

[Zolanski.]

7 minutes ago, By the Water said:

Even if everything you said was true, Nicki doing all of this and still failed to outsell Fearless TV. Maybe choose another artist to pick on because I'm not sure you'll want to start comparisons with Taylor

9 minutes ago, Zolanski. said:

When did I say she would?  

My point was to prove Taylor is one of MANY artists who use chart tactics. Again,  it's only an issue when Nicki does it. 

Reading comprehension is important!

I'm not going to keep repeating myself, I literally used Taylor as an example of someone who uses the available tactics to her benefit.

Edited December 15, 2023 by Zolanski.

[Zolanski.]

9 minutes ago, romas_ld said:

Amazing how all these tactics are still working cause there’s no way she has most of her albums inside Top 20 every week without it 

So if you're trying to insinuate that Taylor doesn't need to use this tactics to sell (which I agree with btw), why does she still use them? Genuine question 

Edited December 15, 2023 by Zolanski.

[Squall]

25 minutes ago, Zolanski. said:

When did I say she would?  

My point was to prove Taylor is one of MANY artists who use chart tactics. Again,  it's only an issue when Nicki does it. 

Did she ever release a physical with half of the tracks available? Did she ever BEG for fans to buy ALL versions to meet her?  

[Aribiotch.]

2 hours ago, Alak96 said:

You corny as a mf

[Aribiotch.]

She won and yall are mad! Hahahahaha

[barbiegrande]

Nicki Minaj you will always be famous

 

[Klein]

44 minutes ago, Zolanski. said:

Reputation:

- encouraged fans to buy multiple albums in order to get presale access 

- had ticketmaster partner with her to create this system that tracked every individual sale of the album in order to leverage her chart potential -> no need to make 2 points to say the same thing

- the tour didnt even sell out instantaneously like the Eras tour so this system really showed how it was created in order to help her maximize its chart potential -> that's the slow ticketing system that was tested to reduce the amount of scalpers, I don't see how it helps maximize the album's chart potential whatsoever

- took the album off of streaming entirely for weeks in order to maximize its charting potential -> it was available only 3 weeks after release + being off streaming only slightly boosts pure sales, not really chart potential since streaming points would actually make her move more units

 

Lover:

- released with 4 exclusive target albums

- gave presale access to her tour early for fans that bought the album + reputation tour tickets 

- released SEVERAL remixes of Cruel Summer this year alone in order to push it over to #1 -> nothing to do with the album + it went #1 for 4 weeks while the remixes only helped during their release week

 

Midnights:

- encouraged fans to buy the album and merch for the album in order to get access to the tour presale -> No? There was nothing of the sort.

- discounted singles to maximize chart points and positions -> nothing to do with the album + it helped for only AH's 3rd week

I mean, why not just talk about the 4 variants making a clock because that's actually the main tactic of the Midnights era?

 

Evermore:

- discounted willow for a chance at securing #1 -> nothing to do with the album

- Released extensive remixes for willow in order to get it to chart high -> basically repeating what you just said, still nothing to do with the album

Also evermore didn't even have physicals on debut week so unless the "tactic" is to have the album debut lower I'm not sure why it's here

 

Folklore:

- Had 16 variants (CD + Vinyl) available for purchase release week that didn't even ship out til months later -> so 8 variants? Or if you count all the different formats (which is dumb), you forgot a lot between clean/explicit, digital, etc... + at the time Billboard was counting at the time of the purchase, so I don't see how it was a "tactic" since it was literally the rule applied for every single soul

What the post should actually looks like :

 

 

44 minutes ago, Zolanski. said:

Reputation:

- indirectly encouraged fans to buy the album in order to get presale access 

 

Lover:

- released with 4 exclusive target albums

- indirectly encouraged fans to buy the album in order to get presale access 

 

Midnights:

- Had 8 (?) variants

 

Folklore:

- Had 8 variants

Anyway, 

 

OT: Congrats to Nicki, those are amazing numbers. 

[NEUTRON]

QUEEN

[Tistotal]

She really won with no current single 

[Parallel]

Nicki won  
Omg Tate is only 300 copies from Drake and a spot in the top 3 

[EriKills]

52 minutes ago, By the Water said:

Even if everything you said was true, Nicki doing all of this and still failed to outsell Fearless TV. Maybe choose another artist to pick on because I'm not sure you'll want to start comparisons with Taylor

Huh? Literally no one is saying Nicki is bigger than Taylor  she is undeniably the biggest artist right now. That’s not to say she doesn’t use similar tactics to boost her numbers, which is where the comparisons are coming from. 
 

^she was brought up because a swiftie (?) was laughing about Nicki using sales tactics to boost her first week numbers, when literally everyone use sales tactics for big first week numbers  

[mael]

1989TV's longevity is actually so frightening.

[Ivan_brit]

223k debut is really good Im happy for Nicki!!
 

Tate is very close to #3 I hope she ends up at #3 at Billboard final numbers

[Perth]

Billboard’s turn 

[Maroonx]

1 hour ago, Klein said:

What the post should actually looks like :

 

 

Anyway, 

 

OT: Congrats to Nicki, those are amazing numbers. 

I had such a good laugh reading the fumes from that member... Even if he was correct, Taylor still got like 7-8x more copies than "that girl" got on her first week.

 

It's a good time to be a Tay fan, coz she never loses and we can dig receipts for her unmatched success 

[Miley Cyrus]

but barbz told me ESV was a flop when it did 30 million more with half the songs

[TROJAN]

The 2nd week fall will be devastatingly DELICIOUS 

[Perth]

I hate Nicki’s guts but 223K is hella impressive. If it drops to less than half of that second week though (probably will), then it won’t be as much as it would continue to prove she’s just front loaded bc of her fans. 

[getBusy]

Those are great numbers but i’m looking forward to another twitter meltdown