beyonceparkwood Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Quote "Queen of rap rests on her laurels instead of proving why she still deserves the crown. While some moments of interpolation are more inspired, the musician’s increasing reliance on recognisable samples can start to feel like cruise control. But without the novelty of being the only major female talent in town, she seems to be struggling to redefine herself." Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEAVYONIT Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 This doesn't belong in this forum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vale9001 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) this shade " But without the novelty of being the only major female talent in town" Edited December 8, 2023 by vale9001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Big Bad Wolf Posted December 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2023 They hit the nail right on the head. Nicki has been artistically weak & stunted for years now. 16 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugo Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Many song has that same Barbie world formula which is use a nostalgic sample (aqua, sfg, girls just wanna have fun) and put a verse on it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xokuba Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I agree unfortunately... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Both Sides Now Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 32 minutes ago, vale9001 said: this shade " But without the novelty of being the only major female talent in town" Are you misunderstanding? They are saying she is no longer the only major female talent in town like she was in 2010 and thus the novelty of being a female rapper isn’t enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dialamba Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Nicki’s songs without samples are much better. Only Barbie dreams maybe Super freaky girls are used well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespertine Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 36 minutes ago, ugo said: Many song has that same Barbie world formula which is use a nostalgic sample (aqua, sfg, girls just wanna have fun) and put a verse on it Yeah, and calling them just "samples" is honestly quite generous, because sampling often implies chopping the source material up and fashioning something new from it. A lot of Nicki's songs feel like glorified remixes now. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ugo Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vespertine said: Yeah, and calling them just "samples" is honestly quite generous, because sampling often implies chopping the source material up and fashioning something new from it. A lot of Nicki's songs feel like glorified remixes now. There's a big difference between this (copy paste) and beyonce using part of the beat or just a guitar riff. This is just a lazy rehash. Edited December 8, 2023 by ugo 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhabylon Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Well it’s true. She dumbed her music down even more for TikTok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen99 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 the funniest thing is, those samples, or glorified remixes like @Vespertine said suck, i love interpolations (like barbie dreams on queen) and seeing how an artist changes someone else's work to make it their own. PF2 feels just as lazy as its title. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imabadkid Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bhabylon said: Well it’s true. She dumbed her music down even more for TikTok To be fair she’s HUGE on TikTok tbh. I’ve been on TikTok since the early days 2019 and sooooo much of her stuff goes viral on there so I don’t necessarily blame her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesuxx Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I agree, I wonder if the initial album plan was to be a full record of samples, however it’s more enjoyable than Queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relampago. Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) I think she has redefined herself just not in a good way. She used to be the eccentric, multi-persona, pop rap star. Now she’s more just generic rap verse over and over. If she was still bringing out Roman and Martha and going full Europop trash (in a good way), this wouldn’t be the narrative. She’s gone from innovative and influential to bland and nostalgia act. Edited December 8, 2023 by Relampago. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gossip_Boy Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Nicki is a very gifted rapper, no one can deny that, but this album (and a lot of her discography in general) shows she isn’t much of a musician or a creative. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just a Gay on ATRL Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Nicki has a more distinct style and image than her other rap contemporaries to the point a lot of the new rap girls look to her for inspiration. Her Barbie aesthetic and fusion between rap and pop is about as "defined" as it can get for an artist. You can call Nicki many things but not defined is not one of them lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatchIt Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Gossip_Boy said: Nicki is a very gifted rapper, no one can deny that, but this album (and a lot of her discography in general) shows she isn’t much of a musician or a creative. You are so wrong good lord… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEAVYONIT Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Why is this thread still here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunUpDoneUp Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 This literally sounds like something a critic with nothing to say would say: "uh, yeah, you know, they don't sound like they sound. Like, they not even real when you think about it." This album is completely unexpected from what people thought she was gonna do. None of her peers are rapping like this, it's less gangster oriented, more upbeat and nonconfrontational in the original pink friday way. This is the "fun" Nicki people claim they wanted! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKW Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 24 minutes ago, HEAVYONIT said: Why is this thread still here? You know they can’t take the queen on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drownxngshadows Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 17 hours ago, beyonceparkwood said: Thoughts? They didn’t lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorjesspazze9 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 She just adapted with the times. Marketing to her Twitter Barbz & Tiktok teens. She still outrapping her competitors. So it’s a Win-Win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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