period sis Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 38 minutes ago, elincomprendid said: Nothing about Renaissance film was promoted as a movie for Queer people bffr ??? 39 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: You are the one jumping from topic to topic. First you started to talk about the US when the OP is about International box office. Then you implied that Eras movie is bigger because children. And then you started to talk about race demographics. It didn't even perform bad domestically but can you explain us why it opened with only 6M internationally False! All I did was post a quote from an article - the same thing you did but provided more context. My post provided BOTH percentages of age and race groups, yet YOU were the one that deleted the race percentage and only nitpicked the age group to make your narrative better Every publication that has compared Eras to Renaissance has specified a complete shift in audiences yet you're still hellbent on comparing them 3 1
family.guy123 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 28 minutes ago, Scars said: Eras Tour - 3,855 theaters Never Say Never - 3,105 theaters This is US - 2,735 theaters Renaissance - 2,539 theaters Best of Both Worlds - 683 theaters Crazy to think that Miley still sits at #2 all these years later with such a limited release compared to the other movies, insane demand. Such an underrated commercial peak. Anyway, back to the topic, I don't think anyone was genuinely excepting Renaissance to pull similar numbers to Taylor. There's still some key markets that didn't have a proper release, which hurts even more non-US numbers. When it's all said and done, this will have a solid gross. https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/s/FJ8SWqyUYe
BnPac Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, elincomprendid said: The thing is swifties didn’t do anything it was literally a news outlet, maybe it’s time for open your eyes and leave the bubble you all live in and realize people using real facts and not vibes like you all do is the majority and not swifties hating over your fav And that’s why I said « follow the conversation ». I quoted a post in particular who implied exactly what was written in my post. It was directed at that post, not the OP or the news’ outlet. Anyway I think percentages reflect accurately that, another post also refer to percentage when comparing the same thing because it just makes sense. I guess let’s agree to disagree. And the rest of your post is inconsequential. It’s great that you Swifties found this « vibes » argument. I’m happy for you. Sadly completely unrelated to my comments at all in this thread and particularly those you quoted, because well..,they were based on math. Ciao.
greeneyedsoul Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 The cinema company in my country released the film to every venue but the one in my city.
liam13 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, perpetual novice said: i really hate to be that guy but there's something so sinister feeling about the rabid fanbase of white america's poster girl being so gleeful in attempting to tarnish the legacy of a self made black woman that stays in her lane and has unnecessarily associated taylor with her events to keep people at bay. there is a reason taylor is able to so easily succeed with less than 10% of the graft Bey has put into her career and it is NOT the quality of the output. i also hate to be that guy but beyonce's writing credit on halo and irreplaceable and some other songs shows she's a very talented artist unlike taylor who can't dance OT: she's only 5% more local than taylor
She-Rah Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 This would have done AMAZING on streaming! It would’ve broken the internet. It’s too much effort to go out in this cold just to watch a movie tbh ! 1
Kool_Aid_King Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Still the best opening of all time for the week after Thanksgiving 2 1
Cherish Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 54 minutes ago, holyground13 said: In my local cinema, the Eras Tour tickets were more expensive than the Renaissance ones. I haven't seen either film in IMAX so I'm not sure about those prices but I think both films were priced pretty similarly Taylor was 19.89 + tax This included IMAX / Dolby Renaissance is $22.00+tax This did not include IMAX / Dolby Dolby / IMAX was $28+tax
byzantium Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Were they selling tickets for the equivalent of $30 oversees? Because that’s a lot of money and I can see that discouraging people from going. 1
Xtina23 Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 43 minutes ago, Thor said: “shE’s BeEn iN tHe IdUsTry fOr 85 YeArs…” Stfu. No one cares. She bombed. Those numbers are disastrous. Should’ve just uploaded it to Youtube. Lmao Agree 100% 1 4
Badgalbriel Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 I don't get why you guys are mad that the numbers were reported. Did y'all plan to keep the bad numbers hidden or something? Accept that the numbers are bad and move on, Jesus. 8 3
Jon Snow Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, Kool_Aid_King said: Still the best opening of all time for the week after Thanksgiving And somehow everyone will pretend this doesn't matter
Draper. Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, byzantium said: Were they selling tickets for the equivalent of $30 oversees? Because that’s a lot of money and I can see that discouraging people from going. Not everywhere. But still, some strong markets for Bey won’t have the movie until the 21st. 1 1
Badgalbriel Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, Draper. said: Not everywhere. But still, some strong markets for Bey won’t have the movie until the 21st. Yeah, I don't know why they do that. The Eras Tour also only opened weeks later in several markets. Such a bummer.
WildHeart Posted December 3, 2023 Author Posted December 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, period sis said: False! All I did was post a quote from an article - the same thing you did but provided more context. What did US audience demographics prove more context to? The thread is about international box office. 5 minutes ago, period sis said: My post provided BOTH percentages of age and race groups, yet YOU were the one that deleted the race percentage and only nitpicked the age group to make your narrative better I didn't make any narrative. It was you who tried to make a narrative when you said that "so essentially Beyonce was competing against films geared towards children" and implied that Eras was bigger thanks to children when in reality, it was bigger among every age group. You made a false claim and i wanted to quote that. I don't have to quote every part of your post, especially when it has nothing to do with the thread (international box office). 12 minutes ago, period sis said: yet you're still hellbent on comparing them None of my posts until your post compared them in this thread.
Kool_Aid_King Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, Cherish said: Taylor was 19.89 + tax This included IMAX / Dolby Renaissance is $22.00+tax This did not include IMAX / Dolby Dolby / IMAX was $28+tax This is not true. Taylor's movie was $19.89 for a regular ticket, but dolby was around $26.
Gagacharts Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said: And somehow everyone will pretend this doesn't matter Well, it doesn´t matter in the context of this thread since the achievement is about the US and the thread about overseas.
Scars Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, elincomprendid said: Seriously asking, how did Miley pull so big numbers with such limited offer did it have some expensive price? Also why was it so limited? Did it have something to do with it being Disney promoted? For context, Disney initially underestimated the demand of a Hannah/Miley arena tour, which resulted in tickets for the dates selling out extremely fast and, on top of that, concert-goers were struggling with scalpers reselling tickets for insane prices. Parents were mad in behalf of their children, it was all over the news and even politicians were trying to get involved. Miley had a very tight schedule, adding one more leg for the tour wasn't a possibility, so Disney decided to screen a concert movie for just one week as a gift to the fans that couldn't go to any of the shows. They eventually screened it for more days, but from the start, it was exclusively released on 3D theatres and tickets were $15 on average. Less expensive than Taylor and Beyoncé, but national average was $7 in 2008. Edited December 3, 2023 by Scars 2
Draper. Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 UpLoaD iT tO YoUtUbE!!1!1 You have to be REALLY stupid to think she can make 27.5M dollars with a YouTube video. But then again, people are. Mind you, she opened with more money than Disney's latest film which had better promotion, a bigger budget and a historically stronger opening weekend. Thanks to Beyoncé having the second profitable concert movie distributed by AMC of the year some of your faves will get to have their concerts on theatres too, thank you. 2 2
Cherish Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, byzantium said: Were they selling tickets for the equivalent of $30 oversees? Because that’s a lot of money and I can see that discouraging people from going. Apparently not, looks like 14-15€ (w/tax) for standard and IMAX is about 20-21€ (with booking fee). That's kinda shitty 1
Cherish Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kool_Aid_King said: This is not true. Taylor's movie was $19.89 for a regular ticket, but dolby was around $23. It must have varied around the US, because it was $19.89 for me. Unless you mean with convenience fee? Cause tickets were $19.89 before the booking/convenience fee
byzantium Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: Yeah, I don't know why they do that. The Eras Tour also only opened weeks later in several markets. Such a bummer. I think this used to be the standard distribution strategy as recently as 10 years ago. Launching a global release is challenging so a country by country rollout can be administratively easier.
Badgalbriel Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 54 minutes ago, Jon Snow said: Reading this thread really drained my energy. I don't know how you do this all the time. Go stream folklore to calm yourselves, please. Neither the Hive nor Beyonce care about the numbers as much as you do. Why do you guys keep up with this narrative that you don't care about numbers when you're here in a 11-page thread fighting everyone about said numbers? 2
Kool_Aid_King Posted December 3, 2023 Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cherish said: It must have varied around the US, because it was $19.89 for me. Unless you mean with convenience fee? Cause tickets were $19.89 before the booking/convenience fee No, Dolby is always experiencing a surcharge. I'm in the chicagoland area. Her tickets were $19.89 everywhere I was looking (I never ended up seeing) but dolby was always more expensive, around $25-26. They don't ever charge the same price for Dolby and standard tickets. -- Even right now, if you look, it's $19.89 for a regular ticket, $13.13 for a Senior/Child ticket.
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