base talk Renaissance WT Movie struggles badly overseas, opens with 5.5M (official)

[spiritboy]

1 hour ago, Enrique523 said:

And yet you are ok with the constant anti-Taylor threads being made for no reason all the time? The hypocrisy 

 

You are ok with the way Taylor was blamed for what happened in Brazil and how OTHs literally gloated about Ana's death just so they can have a go at Taylor? Again, i can't stand this endless hypocrisy 

I have defended Taylor in that thread, the blame is on the promoter and they should be sued. 
 

People who fight over two artists who respect each other and get on well should get their IQs tested because it’s so dumb. Why brag about something you didn’t achieve?

[PrudenceHCharmed]

I read that it's not showing in Indonesia, Vietnam and Malaysia and will be late release in Japan? This might be the reason of it. 

 

Beyonce and her messy release. 

[DoubleRainbow!]

What were people expecting? 
Taylor’s music is way more mainstream 

[Alexz]

9 hours ago, BGKC said:

I mean, it’s not terrible, but it is her own fault for not maximizing her potential, commercially speaking. Her name alone is enough to do solid numbers, but Renaissance having a tangible ERA with videos, more hits/singles and so on would have helped here. Taylor’s era’s tour was all about just that. Eras that people are fond of, as with any other tour that follows up a tangible, well promoted era. Renaissance, despite it being a solid success, really didn’t make that much noise outside of the queer/stan community (and continues to do just ok streaming wise). Like ppl would have still blew coin to see her tour The Gift lol, people just want to see Beyoncé, but Renaissance really could have been something much bigger, including the film.

More promo could've been a double edged sword because Renna is a bad album.

[4Real]

1 hour ago, Jay07 said:

As for the children part, I'm just going by what people said they saw in screenings  I guess older fans move on to more mature stuff and she hooks in new children with lyrics like "I have this thing where I get older but just never wiser"

That's a perfectly fine lyric. She has much worse (as does Beyoncé). Anyways i think shaming people for liking things doesn't really make you appear more mature, quite the opposite.

 

OT: I don't think Beyoncé has aimed for mass appeal with her music or career decisions lately, her film is showing in limited screens which makes sense so her numbers are not bad. Taylor has more broad appeal and is going all out to maximize that. Different situations.

[ImpressMeMuch]

2 minutes ago, 4Real said:

That's a perfectly fine lyric.

Lmfao what a reach they are trying

[4Real]

5 minutes ago, ImpressMeMuch said:

Lmfao what a reach they are trying

Right they could've gone for everybody is a sexy baby or karma is my boyfriend lol

[TaggedGalaxy]

1 hour ago, Jay07 said:

 I guess older fans move on to more mature stuff and she hooks in new children with lyrics like "I have this thing where I get older but just never wiser"

Ass gettin' bigger
Racks gettin' bigger
Cash gettin' larger
He thought he was loving me good, I told him, "Go harder"
She thought she was killin' that ****, I told her, "Go harder"
Just look at this alkaline wrist 'cause I got that water
Ass getting thiquer
Cash getting thiquer

That's that thique, that's that real ****
That's that jelly, baby, champagne and cherry, baby
That's that thique, that's that ball drop
That's that keep going, that's that never stop

That's that thique, that's that na-na, that oochy coochy, la, la
Yeah, this that Fiji agua, candy girl piñata
Hit it in the car and take you back to the casa
Bet I got you rock now, that thique all over the yacht, now

That's that freaknik, that's that 1996
That's that moon Miami bass, 12 in the trunk 808
Uh, that's that Castro, eat that **** like Mastro's
She say she on a diet, girl, you better not lose that ass, though
 

[Jay07]

15 minutes ago, TaggedGalaxy said:

Ass gettin' bigger
Racks gettin' bigger
Cash gettin' larger
He thought he was loving me good, I told him, "Go harder"
She thought she was killin' that ****, I told her, "Go harder"
Just look at this alkaline wrist 'cause I got that water
Ass getting thiquer
Cash getting thiquer

That's that thique, that's that real ****
That's that jelly, baby, champagne and cherry, baby
That's that thique, that's that ball drop
That's that keep going, that's that never stop

That's that thique, that's that na-na, that oochy coochy, la, la
Yeah, this that Fiji agua, candy girl piñata
Hit it in the car and take you back to the casa
Bet I got you rock now, that thique all over the yacht, now

That's that freaknik, that's that 1996
That's that moon Miami bass, 12 in the trunk 808
Uh, that's that Castro, eat that **** like Mastro's
She say she on a diet, girl, you better not lose that ass, though
 

Exactly. Black women have been objectified and oversexualized for so long and Beyonce is reclaiming that for herself. And her effortless flow over that thumping beat? That takes real flavor. That's difficult to have, not everyone has that.

 

Some people just sing about Karma being a cat.

Edited December 4, 2023 by Jay07

[on the line]

Wow, this thread is getting more views than the film overseas! 

[gettsleazy]

4 hours ago, bjorn said:

 

And how commercially successful has Madonna been (on par with Taylor) between 2008 and now? Quick. 

You can froth at the mouth all you want but Taylor will never have a "Ray of Light"

[LOTF]

6 hours ago, bjorn said:

Yes like a decade ago. Aren’t we talking about the present times?

Honey, even after a decade no one is touching her achievements. Have multiple seats

[bjorn]

3 minutes ago, LOTF said:

Honey, even after a decade no one is touching her achievements. Have multiple seats

Taylor does 

[bjorn]

13 minutes ago, gettsleazy said:

You can froth at the mouth all you want but Taylor will never have a "Ray of Light"

She already has. Folklore 

[on the line]

1 hour ago, Jay07 said:

Exactly. Black women have been objectified and oversexualized for so long and Beyonce is reclaiming that for herself. And her effortless flow over that thumping beat? That takes real flavor. That's difficult to have, not everyone has that.

 

Some people just sing about Karma being a cat.

And some can't even string together the words "Karma is a cat" by themselves.

 

 

 

 

[sunbathinganimal]

5 minutes ago, bjorn said:

She already has. Folklore 

[WildHeart]

7 hours ago, Jay07 said:

It's not just when they debuted. Beyonce's music a artistic output is a lot more layered and refined and demands more of its audience. Taylor's audience are literal children. There is no comparison.

 

22 hours ago, Artistofthedecade said:

The Eras Tour box office - 93M

Renaissance box office - 21M 

 

25-35 demo 

The Eras Tour - 32%

Renaissance Tour - 43%

 

Box office by 25-34 demo 

The Eras Tour - 30M 

Renaissance Tour - 9M 

 

Turns out that The Eras Tour overperformed among millennials too, like every other age demographics. 

This has been proven wrong, you are late

[WildHeart]

1 hour ago, sunbathinganimal said:

[Asscatchem]

thats extremely impressive considering how this renaissance era wasnt catered to the general public

[Love4Janet]

The BeyHive needs to accept their fave isn't actually popular outside of some loud Twitter stans

 

Kii

[Alexz]

2 hours ago, bjorn said:

She already has. Folklore 

[Finkypop]

2 hours ago, gettsleazy said:

You can froth at the mouth all you want but Taylor will never have a "Ray of Light"

Why would she want that? folklore and evermore are literally both better, so… 

 

OT: This isn’t really surprising. She doesn’t have the pull to dominate the box office 

[LOTF]

1 hour ago, Artistofthedecade said:

You thought you ate

SCAMmys mean nothing lmao

[Space Cowboy]

2 hours ago, bjorn said:

She already has. Folklore 

 

17 minutes ago, Finkypop said:

Why would she want that? folklore and evermore are literally both better, so… 

 

I love Folklore and Evermore, definitely Taylor’s quality peak. But let’s be real here, Ray of Light is creatively, sonically, lirically better in every way. Like “Swim” and “Sky Fits Heaven” >>>>> whole careers 

[Armani?]

32 minutes ago, Love4Janet said:

The BeyHive needs to accept their fave isn't actually popular outside of some loud Twitter stans

 

Kii

Now we can be petty and bring up Janet's streams. Let's not be delulu