base talk Katy Perry and Post Malone's career trajectories travel on parallel lines

[Revolution]

The male Katy Perry. The male female MJ.

[naval23]

There's definitely similarities but Post Malone's was less abrupt.

 

Even Austin spent 14 weeks on the Billboard 200, Twelve Carat was top 60 year end and made year end the year after, Austin made #158 on the year end

 

Meanwhile, Witness was #91 year end and Smile charted for 4 weeks total (5-54-104-160-OUT)

[Anti-Hero]

Katy is a still bigger Celebrity! TD will always be Iconic, no album by Post is the same!!!! 

[Anti-Hero]

16 minutes ago, naval23 said:

There's definitely similarities but Post Malone's was less abrupt.

 

Even Austin spent 14 weeks on the Billboard 200, Twelve Carat was top 60 year end and made year end the year after, Austin made #158 on the year end

 

Meanwhile, Witness was #91 year end and Smile charted for 4 weeks total (5-54-104-160-OUT)

Twelve carat has a Doja cat collabed which literally saved that Era. 

[Bingo]

NOT The International Mathematical Olympiad taking place on ATRL 

[Robburro]

and both promised acoustic albums that never came!

[Digitalism]

It's true 

But as some other user have said I don't understand why did PM fell with the GP. He just faded. 

Where with Katy we all know why the GP turned on her 

[AidanUnderYou]

The way the pandemic killed the careers of Post Malone and Khalid when they were everywhere in 2017/18 was so crazy  it’s like the GP just stopped caring overnight 

 

Also, I thought I Like You was from Austin when I seen his albums listed. I didn’t even realise he released another one after that single 

[ithinkheknowsoutsold]

2 hours ago, KillingYourCareer said:

The real question is: was there any Paula Abdul contemporary or near-contemporary whose career was traveling on a line parallel to hers? If anyone can come up with a positive answer, then this would mean that we have two sets of parallel lines traveling on parallel lines, which would make it a reverse Warholian expedition.

 

2 hours ago, PoisonCandy said:

I'm not old enough or educated enough on the history of pop music to answer this question, but I'd also like to know. I remember back in 2013 people used to say Katy was mirroring/going to mirror Madonna's career, and that Gaga would end up with a career similar to Cyndi Lauper. Neither ended up happening, obviously, so the Post Malone/Katy Perry one is probably the closest we have right now. I never realised it until now. Definitely interested in the Paula Abdul one.

I can't think of anyone American, but in the UK there was Jason Donovan who had quite a similar trajectory to Paula. His first album yielded 3 number one hits and 5 consecutive top 5 hits (basically the same as Paula's 4 number ones and 5 consecutive top 5 hits), and was big around the same time as Paual's Forever Your Girl (1988/89). The album itself was a huge success too, going 5X platinum and setting him up well for the future.

 

His second album was released in 1990 (compared to Paula's 1991 sophomore), and was another major success, going multi-platinum (similar to Paula's Spellbound), though sales for this album were half of his debut (the same as Paula). Both albums yielded 5 top 20 hits and 3 top ten hits, and the artists continued to score number one smashes in this era too (although Jason's number one wasn't on this album but instead a live theatre recording). 

 

Then they went away for a few years (Jason for 3 and Paula for 4), and came back with a new album that severely underperformed. Paula's Head Over Heels peaked at number 18 and Jason's All Around The World peaked at number 27. The biggest hits from both albums only reached the top 30, and the final single flopped so badly it didn't even chart. Neither album netted any major certifications (Paula's was gold, Jason is gold eligible but not certified),

 

After that both acts went away till the late 2000s, where they tried unsuccessfully to make a comeback. Jason ended up releasing a few more albums after that compared to Paula's zero (she only released singles and compilation LPs), and both are largely forgotten compared to their long-lasting peers from back in the day to whom they were heavily compared to (Janet for Paula and Kylie for Jason).

[starataneori]

they were also both featured in Pokemon soundtrack!

[BlossomSoul]

The first line of this post is beautiful and touching

[Just a Gay on ATRL]

2 hours ago, jdanton2 said:

i guess that means he will become a judge on a music competition   show like American Idol since that is what Katy does now.

I could totally see this actually, lol.

 

He would be someone I can see taking the "country" boy judge position that someone like Blake on TV or Luke on Ai has, there is always a country male archetype judge on these shows. Post has really leaned into his country side more in the 2020s so it would kinda make sense.  

[Pop Art]

I've thought this for a while too, there are definitely parallels. Also, to people saying Hollywood's Bleeding was actually his peak and that breaks the comparison: you have to keep in mind that album was significantly inflated by him slapping on Sunflower, which if I recall correctly was released well before the album was even in mind.

 

For example, comparing their EAS from Chartmasters:

 

One of the Boys: 11.7M | Stoney: 13.2M

Teenage Dream: 25.6M | Beerbongs & Bentleys: 17.4M

Prism: 13.9M | Hollywood's Bleeding: 18.2M

Witness: 2.8M | Twelve Carat Toothache: 3.3M

Smile: 2.7M | Austin: 1.4M

 

It may look like Hollywood's Bleeding is his peak, but then when we remove the EAS generated just from Sunflower, we get:

 

One of the Boys: 11.7M | Stoney: 13.2M

Teenage Dream: 25.6M | Beerbongs & Bentleys: 17.4M

Prism: 13.9M | Hollywood's Bleeding: 13.9M

Witness: 2.8M | Twelve Carat Toothache: 3.3M

Smile: 2.7M | Austin: 1.4M

 

It would be similar to Gaga slapping Shallow on Joanne (I would say Chromatica, but it would actually work sonically on Joanne so we'll use that for this example), which would take it from its current EAS of 3.5M to somewhere between 6-7M.

[Katamari]

So…..what now 

 

 

[modeblock]

post Malone switched like a fagg--t to pander to white audiences in this MAGA'd era we live in...

 

And Katy ran back to a rapist, 

 

I do see some parallels! 

[halcyonday]

1 hour ago, Katamari said:

So…..what now 

 

 

waiting for those Beyonce and Taylor Swift collabs ig

 

[State of Grace.]

Welp. He left Katheryn in the khia asylum. And since she can't book A-list collabs nowadays, her fans can pray for Doechii, 21 Savage, or Kim Petras to revive her career.

 

Edited August 18 by State of Grace.

[favorite crime]

9 hours ago, Katamari said:

So…..what now 

 

 

 

8 hours ago, State of Grace. said:

Welp. He left Katheryn in the khia asylum. And since she can't book A-list collabs nowadays, her fans can pray for Doechii, 21 Savage, or Kim Petras to revive her career.

 

Eh. He had the most payolad single of the year which did 14mil first day and booked every country artist in the world on his album+ got a huge industry push from Taylor & Beyonce but still only did 30mil? His next album won't get the same payola and will be back to doing Smile numbers

[KillingYourCareer]

9 hours ago, Katamari said:

So…..what now 

 

 

This was a SCIENTIFIC study conducted in collaboration with a mathematician and statistics expert. Clearvoyancy was not contemplated.

 

[CherryBay]

But problem is Katy would never release such a good album like F1 no matter what genre so your conclusion is kinda off

[Aries Groove]

3 hours ago, favorite crime said:

 

Eh. He had the most payolad single of the year which did 14mil first day and booked every country artist in the world on his album+ got a huge industry push from Taylor & Beyonce but still only did 30mil? His next album won't get the same payola and will be back to doing Smile numbers

Who in his right godamn mind would take a risk for a bankruptcy to invest all this on Katy Perry in 2024?

Capitol tried enough since 2017 I think

 

[Genius1111]

13 hours ago, Katamari said:

So…..what now 

 

 

From parallel lines to divergent lines

 

[Princess Aurora]

Maybe collaborating with Taylor, Beyoncé, and Morgan Wallen might bring Katy's career back to life.

Edited August 18 by Princess Aurora

[sunbathinganimal]

[Broken]

On 12/2/2023 at 5:26 AM, KillingYourCareer said:

My mathematician friend and fellow ATRLer @J_Roc1042, who I thank deeply, created a graphic representation of my theory for better understanding.

 

SCREAMING