charts discussion Is Mariah the best example how to chart in all eras?

[DemDam92]

Mariah obviously did phenomenal during the physical era (90s and early 2000s)

She did great in digital era (WBT, DFAU, Touch My Body, Obsessed) and continues to chart in the streaming era (Beautiful, All I Want For Xmas going #1 each year, Oh Santa charting).

Her “it’s time” video was viewed over 120 mio. Times on Twitter.

 

Can we all agree that Mariah is one of the kind to chart best way possible with her long career and age during all these eras and still remaining relevant today? 
 

Discuss

[aesthetic bih]

Yes, see when you make your own music and have the vocal talent too

[FolkLover1989]

Outside of Christmas??

 

 

Elton John is right there as answer

He actually got a smash hit

[DemDam92]

8 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said:

Outside of Christmas??

 

 

Elton John is right there as answer

He actually got a smash hit

If Christmas is so easy why do your favs Xmas song flop?

 

Yes, Elton is also a good answer but what’s his big hit in the digital era ?

plus, we can agree women are affected by ageism in the industry much more than men right?

Edited November 25, 2023 by DemDam92

[needs]

Yes, that's how a legend does it

[allforyou]

Absolutely. Despite being in the business for over 30 years Mariah is still relevant and continues to get a smash hit every year  I don’t see anyone else doing it like her

[Punky Rooster]

Not really. I mean, the Xmas song is always going to smash, just because of playlisting and everything...but she needed to have a new cute solo hit again in her 40s or 50s to have any ongoing chart relevance - as everything solo after 2009 has flopped, and It's a Wrap didn't really do anything despite being "big" on TikTok etc.

[DemDam92]

3 minutes ago, Punky Rooster said:

Not really. I mean, the Xmas song is always going to smash, just because of playlisting and everything...but she needed to have a new cute solo hit again in her 40s or 50s to have any ongoing chart relevance - as everything solo after 2009 has flopped, and It's a Wrap didn't really do anything despite being "big" on TikTok etc.

Beautiful was #15 and did 2xPlatinum in 2013 how is this a flop.

[wehavetostan]

Yes but we need the audience to stream her new work too. Caution was one of the best albums of 2018 and The Distance was the smash that got away 

[KatyPrismSpirit]

outside of christmas no. 

[Geraldine]

No lol. it'd be madonna or queen who'are not an xmas meme

[Funnyfatty]

Mariah always gets the last laugh. I’m sure she will get herself another huge hit this decade. I expect in 2025 her to have another top 10. 

[oduplomarte]

thanks christmas 

she's pathetic 

[SinnerCity]

17 minutes ago, oduplomarte said:

thanks christmas 

she's pathetic 

We love a pathetic legend with 19 No.1 hits and a seasonal No.1  

 

And yes! Mariah has proved time and time again that she's a one-of-a-kind artist, exceptional vocalist and songwriter. The more people attempt to count her out, the stronger she comes back. It's quite legendary to be honest.

[oduplomarte]

but this year she will lose to brenda lee

[oduplomarte]

9 minutes ago, SinnerCity said:

We love a pathetic legend with 19 No.1 hits and a seasonal No.1  

 

And yes! Mariah has proved time and time again that she's a one-of-a-kind artist, exceptional vocalist and songwriter. The more people attempt to count her out, the stronger she comes back. It's quite legendary to be honest.

 

Just now, oduplomarte said:

but this year she will lose to brenda lee

 

[SinnerCity]

1 minute ago, oduplomarte said:

 

 

And we will be celebrating Brenda's achievement. Not everyone can chart, but you know that already 

[stevyy]

56 minutes ago, oduplomarte said:

thanks christmas 

she's pathetic 

Mariah Carey is pathetic? Why? 

 

All she does is promoting her own work. That's what artists do. 

 

In the 2020s decade, she has not released a new album. 

 

Right now, she is touring the US, a tour which will gross $25 million with 16 shows. 

 

I think she is taking amazing care of her legacy. 

[oduplomarte]

6 minutes ago, stevyy said:

Mariah Carey is pathetic? Why? 

 

All she does is promoting her own work. That's what artists do. 

 

In the 2020s decade, she has not released a new album. 

 

Right now, she is touring the US, a tour which will gross $25 million with 16 shows. 

 

I think she is taking amazing care of her legacy. 

25M? poor her 

[Mandalay]

'Can't fall down. Stay triumphant keep on living.'

Kii.

 

OT: Yes.

AIWFCIU makes up for her lack of a hit era in her third decade.

[stevyy]

4 minutes ago, oduplomarte said:

25M? poor her 

What would be an acceptable outcome for you for a 16 dates Arena Tour?

 

 

[stevyy]

2 minutes ago, Mandalay said:

'Can't fall down. Stay triumphant keep on living.'

Kii.

 

OT: Yes.

AIWFCIU makes up for her lack of a hit era in her third decade.

Well it was not allowed to chart in her 1st und 2nd decade. It feels like a 2010s smash.

[Oceania]

9 hours ago, Punky Rooster said:

Not really. I mean, the Xmas song is always going to smash, just because of playlisting and everything...but she needed to have a new cute solo hit again in her 40s or 50s to have any ongoing chart relevance - as everything solo after 2009 has flopped, and It's a Wrap didn't really do anything despite being "big" on TikTok etc.

AIWFCIY's yearly success on the charts predates the streaming era and that's what sets the song apart from the rest of the holyday catalogue which, on the other hand, depends entirely on playlisting. 

[stevyy]

On 11/25/2023 at 6:17 PM, Oceania said:

AIWFCIY's yearly success on the charts predates the streaming era and that's what sets the song apart from the rest of the holyday catalogue which, on the other hand, depends entirely on playlisting. 

Right, many people forget that it sold over 1 million singles in Japan alone in 1994. 

 

The song sold an estimated 2,5 million physical singles during its run so far.

 

Then in the digital era (2003-) it sold a further 12 million digital downloads globally. 

 

After that, in the streaming era (2014-) it moved another 20 million units. 

 

At 35 million in consumption sales so far - it is one of the biggest songs in the history of music:

 

14 million certified - USA

4,2 million certified - UK
2,2 million certified - Japan

1 million certified - Germany

800k certified - Canada

= 22 million units certified in those 5 markets. 

[Saddy]

Yes