paulie Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 i would love to know who actually holds these polls and who they ask 2
Cruel Summer Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, paulie said: i would love to know who actually holds these polls and who they ask It actually says who the pollster is in the document linked in the OP, which contains the specific questions as well. The methodology is detailed there a little bit too, in the form of the first few questions, but you’d have to go learn a bit about how samples are determined and weighted from another source to get a better sense of what a typical American poll audience is like and what’s reasonable as a sample versus what isn’t. One notable feature about this poll is that it uses cellphone contacts, not just landlines like some still use, which I feel makes it a little more reliable. If you want some information about this specific pollster’s accuracy and reliability, you can look here: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/hart-research-associates-public-opinion-strategies/ https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/public-opinion-strategies/ 1
Pikachoo Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, paulie said: i would love to know who actually holds these polls and who they ask just click the link and you'll have all your answers 1 3
WildHeart Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rihannito said: You don’t see them talking about positions when it’s a list about performing skills. And you don't see hive talking about positions when it comes to songwriting skills, production skills, playing instrumentals etc. Wonder why Edited November 23, 2023 by Artistofthedecade 1 3 3 4
FSXP Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 1 hour ago, BnPac said: You people live in a complete alternative universe. Swifties are in every B's thread. Just look at the 2nd post in the thread although there's a whole thread celebrating your fave. It's incredible. She's still pretty polarizing though. She scored very high on "Very Negative". Still, it's impressive that she's in those polls when she's past her celebrity peak. The “very negative” score likely comes from conservatives. A couple years back there was a poll and article where Beyoncé was the most considered the most divisive celebrity because of how favorable more people to the left view her in comparison. https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/411497-poll-beyonce-is-most-politically-divisive-celebrity-in-the-us/amp/ Beyoncé is not that polarizing of an individual to the general public. FOX NEWS made her one of their most hated celebrities since the Cuba trip. From then, she was too sexual in ST w/ the feminism aspect, too racial in Lemonade, and too LGBTQ+ friendly with Renaissance, so it’s truly just more and more ammo for them paint her in a negative light to conservatives. Their social media pundits absolutely detest her too. Other than that, these polls don’t consider non-voters (which is a big amount of people), so she likely is more positively favored and not that controversial as a person to people outside a conservative based. The poll in this thread lacks the perspective of people that aren’t registered voters cause it’s to track voters’ opinion on politicians. 1 1
Thor Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 Always a bridesmaid, never the bride. Congrats! 1 2 2
Rihannito Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: And you don't see hive talking about positions when it comes to songwriting skills, production skills, playing instrumentals etc. Wonder why Instrumentals? I didn’t know playing instrumentals was a talent. Bey’s instrument is her voice, She is not a bar singer. And now having budget for big productions is a talent as well? Oh wow. 2
FightDragonsWithMe Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 Happy for both Beyoncé & Taylor. Two legends dominating
WildHeart Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 38 minutes ago, Rihannito said: And now having budget for big productions is a talent as well? Oh wow. I know artists composing or producing their own songs is a foreign concept for you considering who you stan but some of our faves produce their own music too. The result of multi-talent 40 minutes ago, Rihannito said: Instrumentals? I didn’t know playing instrumentals was a talent. Talent is really a foreign concept for you, isn't it 1 1
Anvarie Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Artistofthedecade said: I know artists composing or producing their own songs is a foreign concept for you considering who you stan but some of our faves produce their own music too. The result of multi-talent Talent is really a foreign concept for you, isn't it This doesn’t make sense because Beyonce has written, produced, and played instruments. Playing a guitar/piano okay isn’t as impressive as having one of if not the best vocals in the music industry. 1 1
WildHeart Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Anvarie said: because Beyonce has written, produced, and played instruments stopped reading after this Edited November 23, 2023 by Artistofthedecade 1 1 10
Anvarie Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Artistofthedecade said: stopped reading after this Written, produced, played, and sung by Beyonce and what’s ironic is she’ll sound better singing on that piano than Taylor ever will be id still say a song like Wildest Dreams is better or Getaway Car because writing producing and playing an instrument doesn’t make a song superior. Sometimes you need to collaborate with others to make something really special or catchy. I’d take an Alien Superstar with its sample over the song I linked 1
WildHeart Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Anvarie said: Written, produced, played, and sung by Beyonce Just like those? I have no doubt. 1 6
Anvarie Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: Just like those? I have no doubt. Not B’Day and IASF drags. How ancient are you? Anyways I’m listening to State of Grace and idc who wrote it because I enjoy music not credits 1
BryceG Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 17 hours ago, SignificantOther said: The fact that you're so proud of a bland blonde white woman being #1 over a proud black woman is an ugly look. 🥱
Blue Rose Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 5 hours ago, K$Ellie said: 1 post by a swiftie after the passive aggressive op and now y’all made the whole thread about her Swifties stop playing the victim challenge
trainsskyscrapers Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Artistofthedecade said: production skills You really thought you ate... but you began foaming at the mouth, couldn't stop yourself, and went too far. Sad! Beyonce is one of the best producers in the game. She knows what she wants, can flip a trash demo into a gem off of her production notes alone, and has the production respect of so many. Off the dome (notable people I can pull specific B-production receipts for right now): Spoiler Caroline Polachek, The-Dream, Rockwilder, 9th Wonder, Just Blaze, MNEK, Sia, Cool & Dre. I've heard those Taylor's Version re-recordings and we all know Taylor isn't in the production conversations. If she is, she should be ashamed. 3 1
trainsskyscrapers Posted November 23, 2023 Posted November 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Artistofthedecade said: Just like those? I have no doubt. No. Like This: The only other person credited was the Shuggie Otis instrumental sample. More? If you're looking for hits? Both of these were beats earmarked for other people (Chad Elliott and Lil' Kim, respectively) that made it to Beyonce's folder and the producers will tell you they were shocked when they heard the completed song for the first time in its' entirety. 2
Kasix Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, paulie said: i would love to know who actually holds these polls and who they ask This is a presidential poll conducted on registered voters to find out the popularity of all prominent politicians including trump and Biden, as well as hot topics like Israel/palestine, Ukraine and others. t swift and bey was thrown in to get a sense of what a popular and positive figure’s favorability looks it. this is not a random celebrity poll. Edited November 24, 2023 by Kasix
réveuse Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 9 hours ago, Artistofthedecade said: And you don't see hive talking about positions when it comes to songwriting skills, production skills, playing instrumentals etc. Wonder why Beyonce is a skilled songwriter, producer, and an overall talented person. She's better than Taylor in all of these skills, even at songwriting. 1 3
réveuse Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 9 hours ago, Thor said: Always a bridesmaid, never the bride. Congrats! It's crazy you're saying this considering how Beyoncé is a LITERAL WIFE.
Soda Pop Queen Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 Not that this matters much in the Amerikkka, but how come I never get polled for these? I've been a registered voter since I was 20. They must take from a very small pool of people.
WildHeart Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 5 hours ago, trainsskyscrapers said: Beyonce is one of the best producers in the game.
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