tupperware Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 I mean, we all know Brazilians are pretty much ready and willing to die for pop music... 1 3
Antikythera Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 Truth is, she never shouldve done the concert yesterday, you had the weather report, we are literally going through abnormal temperatures even for Rio a city known for being hot. She also never shouldve keep todays date. All the weather reports were showing today was going to be the hottest day in the history of Rio. U guys maybe dont understand but fans here go wait for the entrance to open hours and hours in advance so they get a good place. So they were under the sun all this time. She is right in cancelling today, but her crew shouldve seen the weather reporter, the experience on soundcheck and just not do this two shows. She is filfhty rich she can spare. Tomorrow the weather is set to be a lot better, even with some rain, Monday also. It will be best for all. Problem is also people who traveled from other states, we have a continental country, so it is not so easy to make new plans. Monday is a holiday in Rio and every room will be booked. People from other estates are not on holiday and need to go back to work. So i understand them being mad. 3 5 4
byzantium Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, Last Boy on Earth said: These people were all already INSIDE the stadium after hours or even days of waiting, she knew already the day before that the temperatures would be like that, at least she should have postponed it in the morning. They hired hundreds of more people to make sure everyone was safe today, were giving free water and firebombers were throwing water to hydrate people so the chances of the same happening were extremely low. 3 more hours of suffering for these people wouldnt not make much difference, at least they’d get to see their idol. Now lots of them have to go back to their states (Brazil is huge) and may not have the opportunity to see her again. It’s all a big mess and I usually think people hate on her too much sometimes but there’s no way to defend this this time around. Someone died. It’s unreasonable to expect her to endanger more people.
Richie.Valdez Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Steve Johnson said: The negotiations took so long. Mayor announced the postponement, he was directly involved in it. There’s nothing to negotiate when someone has died.. putting thousands more in danger is negligent. I am sure Taylor could’ve easily just pull the plug last night and take the breach of contract lawsuit with grace. Human lives should NOT be a matter of contractual obligations. 4 11
Popular Post Venice B Posted November 18, 2023 Popular Post Posted November 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, byzantium said: Honestly, she should just skip Brazil in the future. A girl died due to the venue’s negligence. How can you be upset for canceling? So all brazillian fans who can't travel to other countries should be prevented from seing her live because some venue didn't take the proper measures against a heat wave? Y'all are sick to the head or just dumb. 15 2 1
byzantium Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 Just now, Venice B said: So all brazillian fans who can't travel to other countries should be prevented from seing her live because some venue didn't take the proper measures against a heat wave? Y'all are sick to the head or just dumb. If people are going to die…yes. 1
Lille Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Richie.Valdez said: There’s nothing to negotiate when someone has died.. putting thousands more in danger is negligent. I am sure Taylor could’ve easily just pull the plug last night and take the breach of contract lawsuit with grace. Human lives should NOT be a matter of contractual obligations. You're either incredibly naive or purposefully obtuse. 14
Venice B Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 1 minute ago, byzantium said: If people are going to die…yes. A whole country can't be blamed over one death. 4
Steve Johnson Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) Taylor herself hasn’t announced Monday date yet. It’s all so confusing atp. Edited November 18, 2023 by Steve Johnson
Bosque Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 24 minutes ago, Last Boy on Earth said: These people were all already INSIDE the stadium after hours or even days of waiting, she knew already the day before that the temperatures would be like that, at least she should have postponed it in the morning. They hired hundreds of more people to make sure everyone was safe today, were giving free water and firebombers were throwing water to hydrate people so the chances of the same happening were extremely low. 3 more hours of suffering for these people wouldnt not make much difference, at least they’d get to see their idol. Now lots of them have to go back to their states (Brazil is huge) and may not have the opportunity to see her again. It’s all a big mess and I usually think people hate on her too much sometimes but there’s no way to defend this this time around. There's "no way" to defend her postponing a show that could have very well resulted in another death? Do you think Taylor just snips her fingers and the date is magically transferred to a different date, and no one from Brazil, including the people involved in organizing the stadium have any say in it? No offense but are you kind of slow? 2
liquiddiamonds Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 Y’all do know that these heat waves will become more and more common right? That’s global warming and we are facing direct consequences this week from El Niño. The same can happen in an european leg next year around summertime or in any other country. It’s not a skip Brazil issue 5 3
byzantium Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 Just now, Venice B said: A whole country can't be blamed over one death. There are plenty of valid reasons why a touring artist will skip certain locations. Having to work with promoters that will endanger her fans is a perfectly valid reason. Im not sure how to get it in your head that someone dying is a tragedy and terrible. 2
byzantium Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, liquiddiamonds said: Y’all do know that these heat waves will become more and more common right? That’s global warming and we are facing direct consequences this week from El Niño. The same can happen in an european leg next year around summertime or in any other country. It’s not a skip Brazil issue Hopefully the promoters in Europe will allow her to be more flexible then and European fans, more understanding when postponements happen.
Rep2000 Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Antikythera said: Truth is, she never shouldve done the concert yesterday, you had the weather report, we are literally going through abnormal temperatures even for Rio a city known for being hot. She also never shouldve keep todays date. All the weather reports were showing today was going to be the hottest day in the history of Rio. U guys maybe dont understand but fans here go wait for the entrance to open hours and hours in advance so they get a good place. So they were under the sun all this time. She is right in cancelling today, but her crew shouldve seen the weather reporter, the experience on soundcheck and just not do this two shows. She is filfhty rich she can spare. Tomorrow the weather is set to be a lot better, even with some rain, Monday also. It will be best for all. Problem is also people who traveled from other states, we have a continental country, so it is not so easy to make new plans. Monday is a holiday in Rio and every room will be booked. People from other estates are not on holiday and need to go back to work. So i understand them being mad. Same as the stadium staffs should also have done their job and help distributing water bottles to help the concertgoers, but they didn't. The videos from that concert was a mess and a half. Taylor looking frantic and trying to guide her team to give people bottle waters while performing herself. While the security just stood around not helping. Not everyone has the omniscient hindsight of 20/20 (like you) to be a judge. 2
Blue Rose Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 The Hot N Cold chant so this is all Katy Perry’s doing 👀
liquiddiamonds Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 1 minute ago, byzantium said: Hopefully the promoters in Europe will allow her to be more flexible then and European fans, more understanding when postponements happen. They waited more than a decade to see Taylor again or for the first time. Your ignorance of other people’s conditions and countries is showing…. Also people have died and passed out in concerts in the EU and the US. It’s not a new concept. Let’s skip them then or is it just a thing for Southern hemisphere countries? 5 1 1
Gagaqueen Posted November 18, 2023 Author Posted November 18, 2023 Didnt They know that in Latin America it’s Summer at this time of Year ?? 2 1 4
Rep2000 Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Gagaqueen said: Didnt They know that in Latin America it’s Summer at this time of Year ?? you think you funny, don't you? 1
Steve Johnson Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Gagaqueen said: Didnt They know that in Latin America it’s Summer at this time of Year ?? Sudden record-breaking heatwave is causing this. People don’t stop doing their job in Summer season. Edited November 18, 2023 by Steve Johnson
Steve Johnson Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Rep2000 said: you think you funny, don't you? I can’t believe some are making jokes here of this sad situation.
Bosque Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Gagaqueen said: Didnt They know that in Latin America it’s Summer at this time of Year ?? Are they supposed to cancel every Latin American concert taking place in summer? There were literally 2 other concerts at the same stadium in November, which was summer. Did you feign outrage over those dates as well?
Shelter Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 You can’t blame fans for being upset. Some probably travelled or waited all day in that heat.
byzantium Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 1 minute ago, liquiddiamonds said: They waited more than a decade to see Taylor again or for the first time. Your ignorance of other people’s conditions and countries is showing…. Also people have died and passed out in concerts in the EU and the US. It’s not a new concept. Let’s skip them then or is it just a thing for Southern hemisphere countries? This is nonsense. Someone dying is bad. Postponing or even canceling a show because it endangers people’s lives, is preferable. If you are working with a promoter and venue that will not allow you to look out for the well-being of the concert goers, then you should not work with them again. Y’all are acting like someone dying is perfectly ok collateral damage if it means some more people get to go to a concert.
byzantium Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gagaqueen said: Didnt They know that in Latin America it’s Summer at this time of Year ?? An artist touring…in the summer? I bet Taylor is the first person to ever think of this. Everyone else was probably doing tours in the winter.
liquiddiamonds Posted November 18, 2023 Posted November 18, 2023 Just now, byzantium said: This is nonsense. Someone dying is bad. Postponing or even canceling a show because it endangers people’s lives, is preferable. If you are working with a promoter and venue that will not allow you to look out for the well-being of the concert goers, then you should not work with them again. Y’all are acting like someone dying is perfectly ok collateral damage if it means some more people get to go to a concert. I never said any of that. She’s right to postpone. I’m shocked that you think there’s only ONE PROMOTER in Brazil and she should therefore SKIP a whole country in future tours because this one failed her and someone died. That was your original comment. BE FOR REAL. 1 1
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