base talk What albums would be considered mid if poptimism wasn’t a thing?

[St. Charles]

Who are the ones who have benefited most (deservedly or not) from poptimism? How might they fare in an early 2010s climate?

 

Sorry if this thread has been done before, I didn’t see anything when I searched.

[GraceRandolph]

MIDnights

[byzantium]

All the albums I don’t like. 

[glitch]

Both Olivia albums honestly. If those had come out in 2008 they would've been derided as basic teeny bopper music. Guts moreso

[HappierJealousy]

Nothing. The poptimism doesn’t affect GP’s opinion. No one in the real life cares about those critical review

[Ron Ng]

Rihanna's discography

[Draper.]

Invasion of Privacy and Midnights come to mind.

[St. Charles]

7 minutes ago, HappierJealousy said:

Nothing. The poptimism doesn’t affect GP’s opinion. No one in the real life cares about those critical review

I’m talking about critical acclaim, my bad for not specifying. 

[ICLDXU4HS]

Ariana‘s latest couple of records.

[Raptus]

everything Taylor did from 1989 to Lover + Midnights

Edited November 17, 2023 by Raptus
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[Rihannito]

14 minutes ago, Ron Ng said:

Rihanna's discography

Can you read? 

[Saintlor]

Teenage Dream being panned and Future Nostalgia being acclaimed is an example of this

[Winged]

Few discographies tbh

[Klein]

6 minutes ago, Raptus said:

everything Taylor did from 1989 to Lover + Midnights

Except 1989 is quite literally the biggest contribution to the poptimism movement. 

[Julia Fox]

Chromatica, thank u next and Tension comes to mind 

[blown away]

I like the album, but a 78 MC score is a bit too much for what it is. I mean, albums like Stripped and Teenage Dream have low 50's, to compare.

 

Edited November 17, 2023 by blown away

[queenoftheclouds]

1 hour ago, GraceRandolph said:

MIDnights

It's a good Album But nothing ground breaking.

[Gelato]

Midnights has low 60s (or even high 50s) on Metacritic written all over it.

 

I like Gaga but Chromatica should absolutely not have better reviews than Born This Way and The Fame.

[Just a Gay on ATRL]

1 hour ago, Ron Ng said:

Rihanna's discography

This doesn't even make sense when 7/8 of her albums were pre-poptimism entirely and her only album released in that era (ANTI) received 0 its 8 Grammy noms and was not as acclaimed as other albums released in the same year while far outlasting most of them on streaming/BB200. Rihanna has never been overhyped by critics.

[zasderfght]

Something to Give Each Other. I wasn't in love with his two albums, but they're nostalgic because Troye's songwriting reminded me a lot about conflicting thoughts of "Will I go to heaven because I'm gay?" Troye is Jewish; I used to be Christian when I listened to his previous albums. 

 

This album actually sounds like a regression. It's basically Sad Boy Hours: The Album. I get that going through a breakup will probably inspire songs about that, but if it's not that, it's pining for a guy.

 

I'm a gay male, so don't take this as I'm a straight male trying to take up a queer space. 

 

I just wish artists had different things to talk about like... adversities they went through, events that changed their minds, friendships, the fear of dying, and so forth. 

 

I would honestly give the album like a 4.8/10.  

Edited November 17, 2023 by zasderfght

[Cain]

1 hour ago, Ron Ng said:

Rihanna's discography

Rih’s discography was released before poptimism… the braindead

[Cheers]

SOUR
GUTS

Montero

BTS discography

 

 

Edited November 17, 2023 by Cheers

[unclefloprry]

Motomami

[Raspberries]

thank u, next

GUTS

[naval23]

Lover 100% -mess at it being her highest acclaimed album pre-2020s in her critical acclaim era