Alexz Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 14 hours ago, Gayoncé said: Beyoncé: 2000s: Crazy In Love, Baby Boy, Naughty Girl, Me, Myself & I, Deja Vu, Upgrade U, Listen, Irreplaceable, Beautiful Liar, Single Ladies, Halo, If I Were A Boy, Sweet Dreams 2010s: Run The World, Love on Top, Best Thing I Never Had, Telephone, Drunk In Love, XO, Partition, Formation, Sorry, Hold Up, Mi Gente, Perfect Duet 2020s: BROWN SKIN GIRL, BLACK PARADE, Savage (Remix), BREAK MY SOUL, CUFF IT, AMERICA HAS A PROBLEM You are just listing her singles. Most of those songs were not hits let alone smashes. 1
Titanbaddie Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 You guys are trying to argue multiplatinum Grammy winning number 1 hits are somehow not smash hits because they don't have 1 billion streams is so funny to me. Leave the house please. it's for your own good. 2
Maroonx Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) Does it also count if songs were only hits in countries like Botswana and Kazakhstan? Edited November 14, 2023 by Maroonx 1
sasashite Posted November 14, 2023 Author Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Soda Pop Queen said: lol that user was specifically comparing their chart peaks because you implied that TTWE was local and only a "cute hit" in the US. They brought the receipts and shown where it was not just a hit in the US but actually charted top 10 in more countries that YBWM. Chart peaks solely don’t define a hit. Especially if we’re talking about Britney. She usually lacks the longevity factor. Edited November 14, 2023 by sasashite 4
sasashite Posted November 14, 2023 Author Posted November 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Reflektor_Creep said: The swiftie who created the thread thought Taylor had big hits like MJ/Madge and belittled Janet. I can see why he got so many thumbs down. Because ATRL is full of middle aged people who downplay the success of younger artists. Janet, for instance, does not enjoy the same level of success as Taylor and numerous other female artists. 5
Alexz Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, sasashite said: Chart peaks solely don’t define a hit. Especially if we’re talking about Britney. She usually lacks the longevity factor. Hits linger much longer today because consumption is free. Taylor is also benefiting from her peak, people revisiting her discography, her rerecording gimmick and the evergrowing market. At the time TTWE was bigger globally than YBWM. 1
Rev8 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, sasashite said: Because ATRL is full of middle aged people who downplay the success of younger artists. Janet, for instance, does not enjoy the same level of success as Taylor and numerous other female artists. Right now in here, it's literally the opposite YOU are trying to downplay other artists, JUST so you can uplift Your Own Fav 1 3
Axelios Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Alexz said: Hits linger much longer today because consumption is free. Taylor is also benefiting from her peak, people revisiting her discography, her rerecording gimmick and the evergrowing market. At the time TTWE was bigger globally than YBWM. No it wasn't, stop lying. The difference in terms of US units alone is huge. TTWE was compeletely radio driven like all Britney singles of that time. No wonder the album was a huge flop too. 2
FreeXone Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 On 11/12/2023 at 8:48 PM, sasashite said: Most Janet hits were extremely local. Doesn't Really Matter was a cute hit in the US and that's all. Far from smash hit. Same goes for Till The World Ends. Doesn’t really matter was huge in Asia they even used in their video games like dance dance revolution and Japanese artist covered it. Lol 2
Alexz Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 6 hours ago, Axelios said: No it wasn't, stop lying. The difference in terms of US units alone is huge. TTWE was compeletely radio driven like all Britney singles of that time. No wonder the album was a huge flop too. The charts positions are literally posted there. Taylor only charted on the British Empire + Sweden. It's there for you to see. TTWE was bigger. 3
GlamSlam Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 7 hours ago, Rev8 said: Right now in here, it's literally the opposite YOU are trying to downplay other artists, JUST so you can uplift Your Own Fav 1
Stankonia Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Alexz said: The charts positions are literally posted there. Taylor only charted on the British Empire + Sweden. It's there for you to see. TTWE was bigger. And so was Janet's Doesn't Really Matter. Bigger and far more global. On 11/13/2023 at 5:48 AM, sasashite said: Most Janet hits were extremely local. Doesn't Really Matter was a cute hit in the US and that's all. Far from smash hit. Same goes for Till The World Ends. Doesn't Really Matter US 1 Canada 2 UK 5 Canada 6 Denmark 9 Spain 9 Italy 10 Netherlands 11 Norway 13 Scotland 13 Sweden 14 Europe (European Hot 100 Singles) 15 Netherlands 15 Switzerland 17 Ireland 21 Germany 23 New Zealand 27 Australia 28 Japan 33 France 40 You Belong With Me US 2 Canada 2 New Zealand 5 Australia 5 Ireland 12 UK 30 Sweden 47 Switzerland 58 Netherlands 68 3
Alexz Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, Stankonia said: And so was Janet's Doesn't Really Matter. Bigger and far more global. Doesn't Really Matter US 1 Canada 2 UK 5 Canada 6 Denmark 9 Spain 9 Italy 10 Netherlands 11 Norway 13 Scotland 13 Sweden 14 Europe (European Hot 100 Singles) 15 Netherlands 15 Switzerland 17 Ireland 21 Germany 23 New Zealand 27 Australia 28 Japan 33 France 40 You Belong With Me US 2 Canada 2 New Zealand 5 Australia 5 Ireland 12 UK 30 Sweden 47 Switzerland 58 Netherlands 68 DRM was big and it was in a movie people know that song. (One of the very few Janet known songs haha)
Moth 2 The Flame Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 On 11/13/2023 at 3:48 PM, sasashite said: Most Janet hits were extremely local. Doesn't Really Matter was a cute hit in the US and that's all. Far from smash hit. Best Selling International Song in Japan in 2000 from RIAJ 2001 Japan Gold Disk Award https://web.archive.org/web/20031220134721/http://www.riaj.or.jp/e/data/gdisc/2001.html Song Of The Year title artist release domestic Wait & See -risk- Hikaru Utada TOSHIBA-EMI For You / Time Limit Hikaru Utada TOSHIBA-EMI Secret of my heart MAI KURAKI GIZA TOMADOI / SPECIAL THANKS GLAY UNLIMITED RECORDS SHINGO-MAMA NO OHA ROCK SHINGO-MAMA Victor Entertainment Lion Heart SMAP Victor Entertainment SEASONS AYUMI HAMASAKI AVEX M AYUMI HAMASAKI AVEX KONYA TSUKINO MIERU OKANI B'z ROOMS RECORDS SAKURA-ZAKA FUKUYAMA MASAHARU UNIVERSAL MUSIC Everything MISIA BMG FUNHOUSE Happy Summer Wedding MORNING MUSUME Zetima international DOESN'T REALLY MATTER JANET JACKSON UNIVERSAL MUSIC 3
Monkey_Juice Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 40 minutes ago, Stankonia said: And so was Janet's Doesn't Really Matter. Bigger and far more global. Doesn't Really Matter US 1 Canada 2 UK 5 Canada 6 Denmark 9 Spain 9 Italy 10 Netherlands 11 Norway 13 Scotland 13 Sweden 14 Europe (European Hot 100 Singles) 15 Netherlands 15 Switzerland 17 Ireland 21 Germany 23 New Zealand 27 Australia 28 Japan 33 France 40 You Belong With Me US 2 Canada 2 New Zealand 5 Australia 5 Ireland 12 UK 30 Sweden 47 Switzerland 58 Netherlands 68 Clock it! 3
Rico Shameless v2 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 11 hours ago, Axelios said: No it wasn't, stop lying. The difference in terms of US units alone is huge. TTWE was compeletely radio driven like all Britney singles of that time. No wonder the album was a huge flop too. No it wasn’t. It was a digital smash as well in the US, plus globally it held strong in all markets despite you guys trying to rewrite history. At the end of day You Belong With Me was a global bomb and only did well in the US. Using streams from her Karaoke Versions in 2023, which peaked even worse, will not change that. 1
Rico Shameless v2 Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Stankonia said: And so was Janet's Doesn't Really Matter. Bigger and far more global. Doesn't Really Matter US 1 Canada 2 UK 5 Canada 6 Denmark 9 Spain 9 Italy 10 Netherlands 11 Norway 13 Scotland 13 Sweden 14 Europe (European Hot 100 Singles) 15 Netherlands 15 Switzerland 17 Ireland 21 Germany 23 New Zealand 27 Australia 28 Japan 33 France 40 You Belong With Me US 2 Canada 2 New Zealand 5 Australia 5 Ireland 12 UK 30 Sweden 47 Switzerland 58 Netherlands 68 Oh wow. 1
FreeXone Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Stankonia said: And so was Janet's Doesn't Really Matter. Bigger and far more global. Doesn't Really Matter US 1 Canada 2 UK 5 Canada 6 Denmark 9 Spain 9 Italy 10 Netherlands 11 Norway 13 Scotland 13 Sweden 14 Europe (European Hot 100 Singles) 15 Netherlands 15 Switzerland 17 Ireland 21 Germany 23 New Zealand 27 Australia 28 Japan 33 France 40 You Belong With Me US 2 Canada 2 New Zealand 5 Australia 5 Ireland 12 UK 30 Sweden 47 Switzerland 58 Netherlands 68 We love RECEIPTS
Soda Pop Queen Posted November 14, 2023 Posted November 14, 2023 14 hours ago, sasashite said: Chart peaks solely don’t define a hit. Especially if we’re talking about Britney. She usually lacks the longevity factor. Well, thank you captain obvious lol but that ain't what you was discussing when talking about TTWE or any of Janet's hits in that post. You SAID that TTWE was a local hit and you got proved wrong. Just own that. 1
UseYourIllusion2002 Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 On 11/13/2023 at 2:38 PM, baelani said: as if we wouldn't see the anti-hero and cruel summer sneak Anti-hero spent 8 weeks at number one and Cruel Summer is on it's third (or fourth) despite being four years old. You think any Beyonce song from this decade is on par with that? 1
Vixen Eyes Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 On 11/12/2023 at 11:26 PM, Hey Dude said: Britney: 90s - BOMT, Crazy 2000s - Oops, Toxic 2010s - TTWE, Scream & Shout 2020s - Hold Me Closer pretty sure the OP was talking/listing solo hits. but yes Britney has more, i agree.
blackoutbaby Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 19 hours ago, FreeXone said: Doesn’t really matter was huge in Asia they even used in their video games like dance dance revolution and Japanese artist covered it. Lol The way atrl downplays Asian success is so weird to me.
FreeXone Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, blackoutbaby said: The way atrl downplays Asian success is so weird to me. Global on atrl means only top 10 hits in Western Europe I guess Edited November 15, 2023 by FreeXone 1
Alexz Posted November 15, 2023 Posted November 15, 2023 36 minutes ago, FreeXone said: Global on atrl means only top 10 hits in Western Europe I guess Back in the day of Michael, Madonna Janet and Britney only USA, Western Europe, Australia and Japan had official charts which made them "global" and this forum has a high ammount of fans from that era.
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