Scandalous Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 please don’t destroy is the only good thing left on SNL
John Slayne Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: ATRL being offended over a terrorist organization being mocked was not on my bingo card for 2023, but here we are. It’s giving when the far right MAGA crowd was constantly offended by SNL making fun of them Alas, in the real world; people can support Palestinians without glorifying Hamas. hope they joke about the war in Ukraine next, that'd be so funny and not at all insensitive to people dying there rn 2
Raptus Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) Since when is Hamas (terrorist organization) same as Palestine (nation/country occupied by Israel)? Twitter and half of ATRL are totally dumb when it comes to politics. The joke is not funny, but not inappropriate. Edited November 12, 2023 by Raptus 4 1
AvadaKedavra Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) Absolutely disgustin. So many kids are dying in this moment. That Israel-Palestine situation is not a joke even if Hamas is evil The ukraine war is not a joke too War is not a TV Show for your entertainment Like madonna spilling in this video. People in a peaceful developed nation makin fun of a bloodshell in a different country. Edited November 12, 2023 by AvadaKedavra 2
liquiddiamonds Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: ATRL being offended over a terrorist organization being mocked was not on my bingo card for 2023, but here we are. It’s giving when the far right MAGA crowd was constantly offended by SNL making fun of them Alas, in the real world; people can support Palestinians without glorifying Hamas. Sorry, but this is disrespectful even with the israeli/jewish lives lost. If you can’t see the issue in bringing a serious geopolitical crisis into a cheap comedy sketch than that’s a you-problem. SNL was not doing these jokes about Al-Qaeda in September 2001, and it wasn’t because americans were pro al-qaeda…. https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/saturday-night-live-9-11-oral-history-1221336/amp/ 1
ZIVERT Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, John Slayne said: hope they joke about the war in Ukraine next, that'd be so funny and not at all insensitive to people dying there rn The way y’all are so eager to equate Hamas raping, kidnapping, and murdering civilians to the plight of Ukraine when Russia is literally the Hamas in this situation the cognitive dissonance is real! Anyways, I’ll continue to support both Ukrainians and Palestinians without glorifying Russia or Hamas. Edited November 12, 2023 by ZIVERT 1 1 6
Embustera Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 When are they going to make jokes about the terrorist state of Israel... oh that is not allowed, that of course falls under anti-Semitism 1
John Slayne Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: The way y’all are so eager to equate Hamas raping, kidnapping, and murdering civilians to Ukraine when Russia is literally the Hamas in this situation the cognitive dissonance is real! Anyways, I’ll continue to support both Ukrainians and Palestinians without glorifying Russia or Hamas. i didn't equate hamas to ukraine, read my comment again and then respond
réveuse Posted November 12, 2023 Author Posted November 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, Raptus said: Since when is Hamas (terrorist organization) same as Palestine (nation/country occupied by Israel)? Twitter and half of ATRL are totally dumb when it comes to politics. The joke is not funny, but not inappropriate. I'm not claiming that Hamas and Palestine are the same, it's that they're using Hamas to cover up that they don't care about Palestinians and are using them for their sick joke. Also, this joke is absolutely inappropriate since they made this joke while Palestinians are dying. 1
State of Grace. Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Raptus said: Since when is Hamas (terrorist organization) same as Palestine (nation/country occupied by Israel)? Twitter and half of ATRL are totally dumb when it comes to politics. The joke is not funny, but not inappropriate. Not you calling anyone "dumb when it comes to politics" when you came to the mega thread yesterday asking why the West is being blamed for what's happening in Gaza. Seems like YOU are the one who needs to do some research dear 8 1
ZIVERT Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 Just now, John Slayne said: i didn't equate hamas to ukraine, read my comment again and then respond Saying you hope SNL makes fun of Ukraine in exchange for them making fun of Hamas sounds like a false equivalence to me. Nowhere was the sketch making Palestinian suffering the punchline of a joke - Hamas was the punchline. If you’re unable to separate Palestinians from Hamas, then idk what to tell you 2
State of Grace. Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: Russia is literally the Hamas in this situation 3 1
Raptus Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, State of Grace. said: Not you calling anyone "dumb when it comes to politics" when you came to the mega thread yesterday asking why the West is being blamed for what's happening in Gaza. Seems like YOU are the one who needs to do some research dear
John Slayne Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: Saying you hope SNL makes fun of Ukraine except i didn't say that. i said the war in Ukraine, which is not at all the same. the point is that right now Israel is committing a genocide on Palestinians, meanwhile the American political establishment is trying to gaslight and lie to its own citizens while actively funding and supporting it. and the best American media can do is make a joke about it for a quick laugh? like, unless you're going to speak out against the American and Israeli governments, you better just stay silent. how do you think Palestinian Americans feel right now knowing their country actively wants them dead and then they turn on the TV and see the situation turned into a quick little joke? i'm all for dark humour, but imo joking about a genocide while it's happening is just not funny, especially if you're a big network with millions of viewers. 3
John Slayne Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) funny how y'all were soooo offended and acted like it was the end times when Kim Petras said she wants gays to have s*x or whatever but now suddenly y'all fight for your lives trying to defend the corny SNL and their 'jokes' about ongoing genocide some of you really need to sort out your priorities Edited November 12, 2023 by John Slayne 1 2
ZIVERT Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, John Slayne said: except i didn't say that. i said the war in Ukraine, which is not at all the same. Ukrainians are not dying because their government decided to invade Russia. Palestinians are dying tragically, and Hamas decided that that was okay for them in exchange for the opportunity to rape and pillage Israelis living on the other side of the border wall. You can argue all day about the injustices facing Palestinians, and you would be justified, but taking a moral high ground in defense of a terrorist organization is laughable. Palestinians =/= Hamas. 1 2
X~MoviePoP Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 Arent we supposed to be separating hamas from the rest of Palestinians tho? Like am i confused or isnt everyone saying hamas specifically is frowned upon while we need to focus on the Palestinian people only. 3
Cain Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: Palestinians are dying tragically, and Hamas decided that that was okay for them The genocidal state of Israel being backed by Western colonial states decided that 10
John Slayne Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: Ukrainians are not dying because their government decided to invade Russia. Palestinians are dying tragically, and Hamas decided that that was okay for them in exchange for the opportunity to rape and pillage Israelis living on the other side of the border wall. You can argue all day about the injustices facing Palestinians, and you would be justified, but taking a moral high ground in defense of a terrorist organization is laughable. Palestinians =/= Hamas. well then by your own logic, Palestinians are also not dying because they decided to invade Israel, no? because Hamas is not responsible for the genocide, Israel and the US government are. so how is making fun of their suffering okay but making fun of the war in Ukraine isn't? that doesn't make any sense. the point i and other users are saying that they shouldn't be making fun of the situation period, since there are people that are currently dying in thousands and all SNL has to say is 'hahah Hamas is bad, how funny is that?'. it's disgusting, and also insensitive to victims of Hamas while we're at it. 1,400 people were murdered by them barely a month ago and you think it's appropriate to joke about it? literally nobody here is defending Hamas, stop using straw man arguments to back up your point. 7
Archetype Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 SNL also made ISIS jokes, I get that it’s insensitive but this is what they’ve been doing for many decades. People have a right to be offended by this but just know it’s not any deeper than the surface level joke.
Cain Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 Anyone not seeing how it’s not okay for SNL to not criticize Israel yet finding it okay to make a Hamas joke while there is a Palestinian genocide going on is clearly beyond saving Ignoring the bloodshed of an entire ethnic population yet still finding the time to make light and and condemn (even so subtly) an organisation that many Americans wrongly associate with everyday Palestinian people thanks to their biased media while not saying a single word about the party enacting this genocide is just dripping in political messaging. And then some of you have the nerve to call others politically ignorant 6
Contessa Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Digitalism said: That I totally agree That is the whole point of the outrage, and of the outrage this entire time against the western rhetoric of the conflict. But again and again ppl equate pro-Palestine (“we should pay attention to the civilians being killed and a whole group being driven/wiped out of their homeland”) to pro-Hamas, the same users on this site, the same politicians and incele on the internet, using all their energy against Hamas while viewing Palestinian deaths and genocide as “collateral damage.” Ask yourselves, why do you care more about Hamas than 10,000+ Palestinian lives? 1 hour ago, ZIVERT said: ATRL being offended over a terrorist organization being mocked was not on my bingo card for 2023, but here we are. It’s giving when the far right MAGA crowd was constantly offended by SNL making fun of them Alas, in the real world; people can support Palestinians without glorifying Hamas. no one is glorifying Hamas. We are outraged about the lack of concern against the innocent deaths of the conflict 1
Archetype Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Cain said: Anyone not seeing how it’s not okay for SNL to not criticize Israel yet finding it okay to make a Hamas joke while there is a Palestinian genocide going on is clearly beyond saving I think it’s different when SNL has been making insensitive and inappropriate war jokes for longer than both of our ages combined. They occasionally use dark humor knowing it’s wrong and insensitive to make a character look even worse or be self deprecating. Like I said above, still offensive though.
Domination Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) Not surprised, tbh. While there have been huge demonstrations for Palestine in NYC over the past few weeks, the support for Israel in feels unreal compared to where I live (I was visiting a few weeks ago). Edited November 12, 2023 by Domination
More Than A Melody Posted November 12, 2023 Posted November 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Take Me Apart said: I can't keep up with the plot since when does making fun of Hamas is considered controversial ? Regardless of your opinion on the situation (which, at this point, if it's as reductive as "Hamas = bad and there's no other context I should know", then you haven't been paying attention), why would anyone joke about what's happening at all? While it's happening?
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