celeb news Selena Gomez: "A post won't change what's happening in Israel / Palestine"

[ForgottenSoul]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

No one believes these lies at this point. You genuinely have to be a caricature of a white supremacist liberal to think anyone of internet using age can't open up their phone and see nearly all of what you said is a lie. 

 

Hamas agreed to exchange all hostages for the 8000 hostage Palestinians that Israel has taken. Bibi refused. Israel's bombs have killed dozens of hostages. 

 

Hamas' charter does not call for the extermination of Jews, which saw such language being removed years ago, and the allusions of from the river to the sea being no different to literally the charter of the Likud party in Israel, who themselves say Israel must be Jewish from the river to the sea.

 

Wanna know what kills gay Palestinians? Israel drone strikes. 

Yeah because trading 8000 people for 200 makes a lot of sense, Makes a lot of sense to give in to terrorists' demands after they just killed 1600 people and fire hundreds of rockets a day. A ceasefire does nothing but give Hamas more time to receive rockets from Iran. 

 

I never mentioned the Hamas charter but I'm sure you believe that they don't want to kill all Jewish people after what we just saw right? 

 

A peaceful solution can't exist with Hamas leading Gaza. It also can't exist with Netanyahu, both need to go and I think Netanyahu will be gone soon. 

[Carter]

1 minute ago, UnusualB said:

Selena has been harassing multiple women for years. Slowly she’s been showing her true colours. A selfish self-centred person.
 

Not standing up against genocide because of how it’s affect her business is nothing out of character for her.

 

Having Trump supporters, racists and genocide supporters in her close social circle

says a lot about her. 

who are these women? name them now?

and i’d rather have trump supporter than supporting biden that funding a genocide 

 

hypocrisy at it finest. 

 

[Cloröx]

5 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said:

I don't really see how a country not wanting gay marriage just makes them homophobic if they have all the other protections and basically have a system where two gay men have the same legal marriage rights as other people. No, I don't think all Muslims/Arabs are bigoted monsters but Islam has a lot of that bigoted stuff they just love to follow.

 

I said Tel Aviv which is seen as a very pro-LGBTQ city which has the largest pride parade in Asia and the Middle East, are you more likely to be killed for being gay in Israel or a country that follows Sharia law? 

 

Gaza literally has 0 gay rights at all, the West Bank "allows" gay sex. Them not supporting LGBTQ doesn't mean they deserve to die and I never said that or supported that. 

 

 

Do you think being gay Palestinians and supporting Free Palestine at same will make IDF spare their lives? You are too naive.

[ForgottenSoul]

5 minutes ago, Cloröx said:

As usual "Hamas this, Hamas that" card. For the record, West Bank is not under Hamas admin yet people there are constantly facing violence from IDF, and those illegal settlers keep stealing their land. It's understandable on why most Gazan already gave up the idea of two-state solution because Israel is not trustworthy at all and it shows with current genocide (and dozens of similar tragedies for past decades). I don't know why certain people keep targeting Palestine first instead of the real oppressor which is Israel, the victim blaming is very concerning right now.

 

Anyway, Selena truly made a fatal mistake, out of many posts out there why the hell she chose Amy. And her defensive statement truly is a joke. She's a UNICEF ambassador yet she doesn't have a clue or at least do some research about the conflict? 

 

Yeah, and I said what's happening in West Bank is disgusting, I target both sides which have disgusting people meanwhile pro-Palestine people literally say nothing about the innocent Israel people dying. 

 

I know you people want to continue downplaying the extreme sides of Islam, Hamas and some pro-Palestine people. 

Edited October 31, 2023 by ForgottenSoul

[Carter]

Just now, ForgottenSoul said:

 

Yeah, and I said what's happening in West Bank is disgusting, I target both sides which have disgusting people meanwhile pro-Palestine people literally say nothing about the innocent Israel people dying. 

settlers aren’t civilians nor innocent. 

[raven]

she is not very bright

[ForgottenSoul]

9 minutes ago, Carter said:

this is even dumber than selena’s statement 

you don’t get to comment sorry lol

So you think if a country supports gay people in everything but not the legal name of gay marriage they are homophobic? Lmfao. 

[ForgottenSoul]

2 minutes ago, Carter said:

settlers aren’t civilians nor innocent. 

Okay, and I don't think settlers should be doing what they are doing. I still don't think they deserve to die but maybe you do. 

Edited October 31, 2023 by ForgottenSoul

[ForgottenSoul]

9 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

This entire message is a mess. I'm not even going to waste my time because I already replied to all of it. You're using straw man arguments to defend a disgrace of a country that shouldn't exist as it is. Have fun. I have more importan things to do. Go back and read my prior message and you'll already have your answer if you need one.

You used straw man arguments as well that's how both sides discuss this issue sadly. 

[Communion]

3 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said:

Yeah because trading 8000 people for 200 makes a lot of sense,

If Hamas is evil for taking 200 hostage, why have the IDF taken over 8000 Palestinians hostage?

 

Israel has to give more hostages because they've taken more hostages. 

 

Why does the Israeli state frequently kidnapped and vanish innocent Palestinian civilians?

[Carter]

1 minute ago, ForgottenSoul said:

So you think if a country supports gay people in everything but not the legal name of gay marriage they are homophobic? Lmfao. 

what in the name of hell?

then what stoping them for giving them the right to have a suppose, kids and share a life if it isn’t homophobic?

[Communion]

6 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said:

I never mentioned the Hamas charter but I'm sure you believe that they don't want to kill all Jewish people after what we just saw right? 

If 1,400 deaths means Hamas' goal is the extermination of Jewish people, what do the 100,000 Palestinians killed by the IDF mean the goal of the Israeli state is?

 

Why does the Palestinian death toll out number the Israeli death toll 20 to 1?

[Carter]

3 minutes ago, Communion said:

If Hamas is evil for taking 200 hostage, why have the IDF taken over 8000 Palestinians hostage?

 

Israel has to give more hostages because they've taken more hostages. 

 

Why does the Israeli state frequently kidnapped and vanish innocent Palestinian civilians?

again 1 to 1027 ratio

we won’t forget. 

[Souvenir]

it's insane how this forum and twitter ignores the innocent israeli babies  

[poltergeist]

Oh so this woman has all the time in the world to bully other women online but not for things that f*cking matter, got it!

[ForgottenSoul]

Just now, Communion said:

If Hamas is evil for taking 200 hostage, why have the IDF taken over 8000 Palestinians hostage?

 

Israel has to give more hostages because they've taken more hostages. 

 

Why does the Israeli state frequently kidnapped and vanish innocent Palestinian civilians?

You don't get to butcher 1,400 people and then say we took 200 people and want to trade for 5200(the real number), don't you see how dumb that sounds? 

 

 

[Cloröx]

The way this thread is becoming Israel-Palestinian mega thread 2.0. I should've stopped and back to main thread. Anyway, some people just shows us that they only concern bout this conflict since October 7. Where we they before in 2021, 2014, or when IDF randomly killed innocent Palestinians like a daily routine etc.?

 

Edited October 31, 2023 by Cloröx

[Armani?]

Isn't her statement kind of redundant?

[Carter]

1 minute ago, ForgottenSoul said:

You don't get to butcher 1,400 people and then say we took 200 people and want to trade for 5200(the real number), don't you see how dumb that sounds? 

 

they killed the voice of palestine on national tv

they bombed hospitals, schools and a church

and you dont want the people to resist? dont you see how dumb that sounds? 

[ForgottenSoul]

3 minutes ago, Carter said:

what in the name of hell?

then what stoping them for giving them the right to have a suppose, kids and share a life if it isn’t homophobic?

Isreal has all of this

 

Same-sex sexual activity legal

Equal age of consent

Anti-discrimination laws in employment (Since 1992)

Anti-discrimination laws in the provision of goods and services (Since 2000)

Anti-discrimination laws in all other areas (incl. indirect discrimination, hate speech) (Since 1997)

Anti-discrimination laws concerning gender identity

Same-sex marriage/ (Same-sex marriage from abroad recognised since 2006 and in a few cities since 2020)

Recognition of same-sex couples (e.g. unregistered cohabitation, life partnership) (Unregistered cohabitation since 1994)

Stepchild adoption by same-sex couples (Since 2005)

Joint adoption by same-sex couples (Since 2008)

LGBT people allowed to serve openly in the military (Since 1993)

Right to change legal gender

Access to IVF for lesbian couples

Conversion therapy banned by law (Since 2022)

Altruistic surrogacy for gay male couples (Since 2022)

Immigration equality and rights for LGBT individuals and same-sex couples (Since 2016

MSMs allowed to donate blood (Since 2021)

 

I mean what's stopping Muslim countries from recognising gay rights and marriage? They have religious beliefs that people don't agree with, same as Isreal but they allow everything else and do recognise marriage for gay people in a different way that's not "marriage"

[Communion]

5 minutes ago, ForgottenSoul said:

You don't get to butcher 1,400 people and then say we took 200 people and want to trade for 5200(the real number), don't you see how dumb that sounds? 

You don't get to butcher 100,000+ people, ethnically cleanse 800,000+ more, and then say we took 10,000 people but will give none of these people back for the 224 of our people (the real number) we want back, don't you see how dumb that sounds? 

Edited October 31, 2023 by Communion

[Shendelzare]

oh selenur 

[UnusualB]

3 minutes ago, poltergeist said:

Oh so this woman has all the time in the world to bully other women online but not for things that f*cking matter, got it!

Exactly!

 

Only posts when it’s financially or personally convenient for her. 
 

Despicable selfish woman.

 

[Shelter]

9 minutes ago, Souvenir said:

it's insane how this forum and twitter ignores the innocent israeli babies  

I don’t think it is, I think it’s because it’s happening daily in Palestine, it is more talked about. 
 

As for Selena. I think she is pro Israel.
 

I seen her friend told Hadid to **** off for supporting Palestine.

Edited October 31, 2023 by Shelter

[ForgottenSoul]

13 minutes ago, Communion said:

If 1,400 deaths means Hamas' goal is the extermination of Jewish people, what do the 100,000 Palestinians killed by the IDF mean the goal of the Israeli state is?

 

Why does the Palestinian death toll out number the Israeli death toll 20 to 1?

I mean the death toll argument is because Isreal has a way better military and the Iron Dome, you said 100k Palestine people another said 700k? Whats the number? I'm against civilian deaths and support a two-state solution but with with both Hamas and Netanyahu that won't happen. 

 

From what I'm reading the number is debated, and no real official number saw low numbers and did see that 100k figure. Around 20k Israeli deaths. 

 

9 minutes ago, Carter said:

they killed the voice of palestine on national tv

they bombed hospitals, schools and a church

and you dont want the people to resist? dont you see how dumb that sounds? 

So you think Hamas is a resistance group? At least you show your true terrorist-supporting colours, unlike the others that just say nothing about Hamas will supporting them. IsraelWhat's

Edited October 31, 2023 by ForgottenSoul