Digitalism Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Clearly this happened to Olivia and Billie Is there other cases? 3
adylovestaylorandjb Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Sometimes I feel music is just not appealing enough to gp and even promos can't save it. When music talks, it will become successful. Like billie's debut EP The promo and album combo works when music is just chart buster for public.
Nightingale Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Olivia did promote though. She did fine. She was just never going to live up to Sour which is a once in a lifetime kind of success album 4
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badvibez Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Olivia did plenty of promo though what more do you expect?
Digitalism Posted October 22, 2023 Author Posted October 22, 2023 1 minute ago, badvibez said: Olivia did plenty of promo though what more do you expect? Compare it to someone like Dua or Gaga and Katy during their peaks.
badvibez Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, Digitalism said: Compare it to someone like Dua or Gaga and Katy during their peaks. I still think you're underrating her efforts. She did a live TV performance on release day plus an awards show performance. The writer's strike just lifted and she's starting late night TV performances this week, plus Jingle Ball soon. The bigger problem is the lack of a clear single right now. 6
Machete Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Olivia and Billie did plenty of promo, if not MORE than usual in their respective release years They flopped because music did not connect in Olivia case and that + hatetrain for Billie.
Distantconstellation Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Christina during Bionic, she did absolutely no overseas promo. Quite different with her previous eras 1
kexin Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Endless Summer Vacation. even then with Olivia’s case, generally nobody outside of internet gays actually care about promo and will listen to an album when it drops or from good word of mouth. the promo is just an added bonus for the stans. 5
Doogle Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Machete said: Olivia and Billie did plenty of promo, if not MORE than usual in their respective release years They flopped because music did not connect in Olivia case and that + hatetrain for Billie. Sorry have I missed something… how are either Guts or HTE flops??
BuzzCharts Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 Some of y’all are living in the past. Promo in 2023 is not the same as promo in 2013 or 2003. Going out and doing talk shows or live performances does nothing for you in 2023. It’s a waste of time and resources. Now a days you’re better off making tik toks and posting things on social media. Billie and Olivia both did plenty of promo. 6
Mr. Mendes Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Digitalism said: Compare it to someone like Dua or Gaga and Katy during their peaks. Now why would we use Katy as a point of comparison when she was at her peak at a time where promotion for an album was at an all time high? We're very much in an era now where artists don't do much to promote. It's not specific to Billie or Olivia (both of whom did more promo than some of their peers bother to). It's just not how album roll outs happen now. Promo is not going on countless TV shows and doing performances, it's streaming palylisting, banners, radio push, and TikTok. Edited October 22, 2023 by Mr. Mendes
Distantconstellation Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, BuzzCharts said: Some of y’all are living in the past. Promo in 2023 is not the same as promo in 2013 or 2003. Going out and doing talk shows or live performances does nothing for you in 2023. It’s a waste of time and resources. Now a days you’re better off making tik toks and posting things on social media. Billie and Olivia both did plenty of promo. Or pay for playlisting on spotify
Joyride Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 I feel like PinkPantheress will inevitably go through this
elevate Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Distantconstellation said: Christina during Bionic, she did absolutely no overseas promo. Quite different with her previous eras Wasn't that due to her divorce? I think that cut the era very short. And then she just stopped caring altogether for other eras, lol. (Not necessarily a bad thing, tbh).
Digitalism Posted October 23, 2023 Author Posted October 23, 2023 59 minutes ago, BuzzCharts said: Some of y’all are living in the past. Promo in 2023 is not the same as promo in 2013 or 2003. Going out and doing talk shows or live performances does nothing for you in 2023. It’s a waste of time and resources. Now a days you’re better off making tik toks and posting things on social media. Billie and Olivia both did plenty of promo. 57 minutes ago, Mr. Mendes said: Now why would we use Katy as a point of comparison when she was at her peak at a time where promotion for an album was at an all time high? We're very much in an era now where artists don't do much to promote. It's not specific to Billie or Olivia (both of whom did more promo than some of their peers bother to). It's just not how album roll outs happen now. Promo is not going on countless TV shows and doing performances, it's streaming palylisting, banners, radio push, and TikTok. Why are you acting like Dua didn't do huge promo for 2 years during the pandemic and it worked
BionicWooHoo Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Distantconstellation said: Christina during Bionic, she did absolutely no overseas promo. Quite different with her previous eras In fairness, Pigrez was v influential at the time and I’m sure she was strongly affected by that nastiness and her marriage was falling apart at the same time. Probably a really dark time in her life I would imagine 2
BuzzCharts Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 44 minutes ago, Digitalism said: Why are you acting like Dua didn't do huge promo for 2 years during the pandemic and it worked The paid playlisting and radio had more to do with it
Digitalism Posted October 23, 2023 Author Posted October 23, 2023 1 minute ago, BuzzCharts said: The paid playlisting and radio had more to do with it All of that is promo tho. And a lot of her performances went viral.
Meev Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) I feel that traditional promo works if you can put on a spectacular performance. In Dua’s case, her Grammys performance was so good that I as a non-fan became obsessed with the song. However, I’m not sure if Billie or Olivia can replicate the kind of performance that Dua gave. Edited October 23, 2023 by Meev 2
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