movie Eras Tour Demographic Information Revealed

[Klein]

2 hours ago, queenoftheclouds said:

At least she doesn't have to many young Fans.

And why would that be a problem? The fact the new generation is drawn to her is the reason why her success is so enduring. 

 

Tbh who cares if her fanbase is mostly white girls? That doesn't make any other demographic wrong for listening to her.

 

The real problem I see on ATRL is that the members make it seem like appealing to teenage girl for example necessarily means your music is "lesser" because it's just full on misoginy. Or to imply that because she has a mostly white fanbase she's a white supremacist or racist etc... THAT is the problem. 

[WildHeart]

2 hours ago, ICLDXU4HS said:

Caucasians aren't the only whites. 

 

Given the low Black percentage, I think it's safe to assume the number is skewed more towards white Hispanics and Latinos than non-white ones and given the fact that the former already outnumber the latter to begin with, that means the overall numbers of white attendees most likely IS around (or slightly above) 80%.  

The amount of mental gymnastics because her white fanbase is totally on par with US's 

[Kodak Energy]

10 hours ago, Kimbra said:

It's very odd how Taylor has no black appeal AT ALL. Even Celine Dion has a bigger black base especially in Jamaica.

She has black appeal though 

the black audience gave her a 6m opening weekend for a concert film. Those are cute numbers. 
 

She’s just proportionally more popular  with Asian audiences and women. 

[Villas]

I will never understand why white latinos are considered POC by US Citizens 

[Flanders]

4 hours ago, Eóghan said:

the diversity at a renaissance concert compared to a eras concert. simply watch the crowd and how they dress. it's day and night.

and the ratio of lgtb/queer content in their music

and it helps that renaissance tour stands out compared to other bey tour, it's literally a love letter to queer culture

You referred to an array of tours including those by Madonna and Lady Gaga. so where's the data to back up your claims?

[blackoutbritney]

10 hours ago, Kimbra said:

It's very odd how Taylor has no black appeal AT ALL. Even Celine Dion has a bigger black base especially in Jamaica.

It could be because of how racist her toxic fans can be on twitter

[thetea]

was expecting to see more men, since she has such a large gay following but other than that, this list checks out. it doesn't come as a shock that she doesn't have a huge POC following, the type of music she makes, and the way she markets herself doesn't appeal to POC people in the same way it appeals to white women. this is no drag, this is why she isn't as popular in POC communities like mine. there's also nothing wrong with that, there's no point trying to drag her with this. 

[Gaia]

11 hours ago, Anvarie said:

It’s crazy how she has almost no appeal to black people 

Black people tend to love talent. Hence our legends are the likes of Michael Jackson, Stevie Wonder, Aretha Franklin, Jimi Hendrix, Beyonce, Prince, Tina Turner, etc.

 

Not...Taylor Swift

 

[Gaia]

27 minutes ago, Villas said:

I will never understand why white latinos are considered POC by US Citizens 

It's the same backwards logic that italians aren't considered "white" because many are more tan than the Irish  

[ICLDXU4HS]

39 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said:

The amount of mental gymnastics because her white fanbase is totally on par with US's 

Overperforming with affluent white women and losing the Black vote by a large margin? I think I’ve seen this film before… and I didn’t like the ending.

[Obsession]

She has no appeal with Black people, if you've been following box office long enough, you know that's a very low percentage for Black people. 

 

But it's to be expected, she has never particularly reached out to a Black audience - Reputation sonically might have tried to do that, but it failed, and I think coming from a country background hurts her in this regard. But it's not some hurdle she needs to climb, her audience is big enough to not pander and I don't think any efforts to do so at this point would go over well.

 

 

Edited October 16, 2023 by Obsession

[Bloodflowers.]

My theater had a surprising number of males. I can't tell which of those were boyfriends that were dragged along by their girlfriends and which were homosexuals, except for the two 30yo homos sitting behind us singing with their girly lil' voices to I Knew You Were Trouble

 

 

[MingYouToo]

She has little to no appeal to most black people and that's been established, nor does she need to commercially.

 

What's weird here are users trying to spark fanwars by using black people as a scapegoat for thinly veiled bait, acting like her lack of black audience makes her inherently inferior as an artist is crazy while also completely undermining her pull in Hispanic and Asian demographics.  There's no drag to be made here, Taylor minds her business and doesn't try to step foot or appeal to people that are resistant to her output. 

[KMO]

I’m going to say this very delicately, but Black folks historically have rooted, and shown up, for artists with great, strong voices

Edited October 16, 2023 by KMO

[Pheromosa]

55 minutes ago, Villas said:

I will never understand why white latinos are considered POC by US Citizens 

They themselves (well I should say some) would be appalled if you suggested that too but this is not the thread for that 

[ICLDXU4HS]

3 minutes ago, KMO said:

I’m going to say this very delicately, but Black folks historically have rooted  and shown up for artists with great, strong voices

And artists who have class to what they do... I'll say that. 

[Bloodflowers.]

Also on topic of race, Taylor's Eras concert had very nice black representation. From black dancers to black backup vocalists to the little black girl fan who Taylor hugged during 22 performance. To say Taylor doesn't do anything to reach out black audience is ridiculous. She does her part to make her black fans feel welcome in her space and feel represented. 

[AxelFox]

Y'all are going up in arms about the diversity data but I find the age data to be more interesting. 

 

If the 13-17 segment is really 32% that's very telling. Keep in mind that while 17 year-olds might go to concerts alone, the 13-14 year-olds most definitely don't; therefor inflating her attendance and overall numbers significantly. 

 

Which should not really be all that surprising since anyone who's not a swiftie knows who the core audience that connects to her alleged 'oh so profound, intricate & extraordinary songwriting' is. 

[PoisonedIvy]

30 minutes ago, KMO said:

I’m going to say this very delicately, but Black folks historically have rooted, and shown up, for artists with great, strong voices

Janet is one of the “”weakest”” vocalists of all times and she’s one of our biggest legends. It’s not like black people only support powerhouse vocalists. Taylor just doesn’t appeal to the greater black community and that’s ok. Don’t frame it like we only support Mariahs and Arethas  

[WildHeart]

Yes Taylor appeals to both Gen-Z AND Millennials with her timeless catalogue unlike some of your faves who have no reach to younger generations, no need to fume about that

Edited October 16, 2023 by Artistofthedecade

[FolkLover1989]

48 minutes ago, Obsession said:

She has no appeal with Black people, if you've been following box office long enough, you know that's a very low percentage for Black people. 

 

But it's to be expected, she has never particularly reached out to a Black audience - Reputation sonically might have tried to do that, but it failed, and I think coming from a country background hurts her in this regard. But it's not some hurdle she needs to climb, her audience is big enough to not pander and I don't think any efforts to do so at this point would go over well.

 

 

She got 6m opening from Black audience 

 

99% of your fav won't even get 1m from same demographic 

 

You all are just hateful atp

[americanshameless]

12 hours ago, Perfect Blue said:

I expected 80%+ white, kinda impressed.

 

The Hispanic group could also mean yt, probably all the white latinos

[FolkLover1989]

37 minutes ago, MingYouToo said:

She has little to no appeal to most black people and that's been established, nor does she need to commercially.

 

What's weird here are users trying to spark fanwars by using black people as a scapegoat for thinly veiled bait, acting like her lack of black audience makes her inherently inferior as an artist is crazy while also completely undermining her pull in Hispanic and Asian demographics.  There's no drag to be made here, Taylor minds her business and doesn't try to step foot or appeal to people that are resistant to her output. 

Umm little to no appeal and still getting 6m opening from them

 

Btw 6m is huge.

 

Most of your fav will struggle do even half of that

[Obsession]

Just now, FolkLover1989 said:

She got 6m opening from Black audience 

 

99% of your fav won't even get 1m from same demographic 

 

You all are just hateful atp

Proportionally, that is low from a Black audience. Also, Taylor Swift is one of my favorite artists. I am also Black. It is fine that she doesn't have mass appeal with Black audiences - but she doesn't.

 

You guys need to divest from this idea that just because someone says she isn't #1 at something (and in this case, something VERY minuscule), it's considered hate. It's not hate to say Taylor is more popular with white people, she's a white woman whose career started in Nashville, that's like a very simple fact. 

[FolkLover1989]

1 hour ago, thetea said:

was expecting to see more men, since she has such a large gay following but other than that, this list checks out. it doesn't come as a shock that she doesn't have a huge POC following, the type of music she makes, and the way she markets herself doesn't appeal to POC people in the same way it appeals to white women. this is no drag, this is why she isn't as popular in POC communities like mine. there's also nothing wrong with that, there's no point trying to drag her with this. 

You might not know this but POC is more than just 1 demographic 

Look at the stats once again.

 

She is huge in Asia , is that not POC to you all???

 

Oh wait I forgot ATRL erases Asian representation cause their faves are nothing there