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[Chris]

Why can't we get it late October though?

[bijonse]

1 minute ago, FolkLover1989 said:

Yup this is not AMC deal

 

This was the idea of Taylor, her team and her parents which AMC agreed to and now Beyoncé copied.

 

if this was AMC thing it would be very different. Taylor and her team crafted this idea lol

You can’t “copy a deal”. Like it’s either offered to you/negotiated or it’s not. It’s cute that taylor got that deal first but it’s not art or even a strategy that you can “copy”  amc probably wants more concert films and will use the same deal they did with taylor for them moving forward where the artist gets more coin and that’s good but the problem everybody is having with the swifties in this thread is that they’re disingenuously trying to make it seem like Beyoncé copied her deal.  I keep wondering why you guys would want Beyoncé to accept a lesser deal than what taylor got and put all in the press these past few weeks when all the “deal” is about is taylor getting a bigger cut of the profits.

 

like the logic is so dumb with that whole idea. Is taylor “copying” artists that don’t get shafted out of the rights to their music by re-recording her albums? You guys say the most ridiculous and convoluted **** to make it seem like she’s influencing the very people she is influenced by. She didn’t invent cutting deals with distribution companies my god

[liam13]

7 minutes ago, Feanor said:

Taylor went with AMC because the studios wanted to release the concert film in 2025, not because they didn't want to pay her

not 2025, even worse than what i remembered

 

maybe beyonce could wait until then but she knew her fans been foaming at their mouths so she rushed a deal w AMC love her for that

Edited October 1, 2023 by liam13

[liquiddiamonds]

PERCHED

[FolkLover1989]

4 minutes ago, bijonse said:

You can’t “copy a deal”. Like it’s either offered to you/negotiated or it’s not. It’s cute that taylor got that deal first but it’s not art or even a strategy that you can “copy”  amc probably wants more concert films and will use the same deal they did with taylor for them moving forward where the artist gets more coin and that’s good but the problem everybody is having with the swifties in this thread is that they’re disingenuously trying to make it seem like Beyoncé copied her deal.  I keep wondering why you guys would want Beyoncé to accept a lesser deal than what taylor got and put all in the press these past few weeks when all the “deal” is about is taylor getting a bigger cut of the profits.

 

like the logic is so dumb with that whole idea. Is taylor “copying” artists that don’t get shafted out of the rights to their music by re-recording her albums? You guys say the most ridiculous and convoluted **** to make it seem like she’s influencing the very people she is influenced by. She didn’t invent cutting deals with distribution companies my god

You can copy a deal

 

Also this deal is not about profits in the first place

 

Taylor wanted her movie to screen only on weekends and the price she decided. This was her and her team idea. Not AMC and now Bey is doing the same.

 

Earlier concert films use to run on weekdays too. 

 

 

Taylor decided the price by herself $19.89 and now Bey is doing same with $22

 

 

Trying to make this AMC idea is so funny when AMC CEO himself admitted how this all happened 

[FolkLover1989]

6 minutes ago, bijonse said:

You can’t “copy a deal”. Like it’s either offered to you/negotiated or it’s not. It’s cute that taylor got that deal first but it’s not art or even a strategy that you can “copy”  amc probably wants more concert films and will use the same deal they did with taylor for them moving forward where the artist gets more coin and that’s good but the problem everybody is having with the swifties in this thread is that they’re disingenuously trying to make it seem like Beyoncé copied her deal.  I keep wondering why you guys would want Beyoncé to accept a lesser deal than what taylor got and put all in the press these past few weeks when all the “deal” is about is taylor getting a bigger cut of the profits.

 

like the logic is so dumb with that whole idea. Is taylor “copying” artists that don’t get shafted out of the rights to their music by re-recording her albums? You guys say the most ridiculous and convoluted **** to make it seem like she’s influencing the very people she is influenced by. She didn’t invent cutting deals with distribution companies my god

If Eras Tour movie came after RWT , you all would have dragged Taylor non stop as if we don't know 

[Shelter]

6 minutes ago, liam13 said:

no, they wanted to send it to theaters in 2024, which taylor and family didnt like. meaning they wanted it but the deals were sh*t she contacted AMC CEO directly.

 

meanwhile, no studios and streaming services wanted beyonces film despite it was done in November 2022

Bey wanted a movie release and streaming deal. Isn’t it funny you expect Bey to just hand over her project and not get what she wants but then praise someone else for doing just that.  

[Shelter]

11 minutes ago, Chris said:

Why can't we get it late October though?

She just shot the tour. Need time to edit 

[est. in 90s]

[Kimmo]

@Winged not you being from Midland TX 

 

[bijonse]

7 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said:

You can copy a deal

 

Also this deal is not about profits in the first place

 

Taylor wanted her movie to screen only on weekends and the price she decided. This was her and her team idea. Not AMC and now Bey is doing the same.

 

Earlier concert films use to run on weekdays too. 

 

 

Taylor decided the price by herself $19.89 and now Bey is doing same with $22

 

 

Trying to make this AMC idea is so funny when AMC CEO himself admitted how this all happened 

I didn’t say it was amcs idea. It’s been made very clear that taylor wanted to distribute the film through her not through an outside studio. We know that already. But using stupid logic like to imply that Beyoncé is “copying” taylor by getting the same deal as her for her film, and thus more money (because that’s what this whole distribution deal is all about) is like saying taylor is copying other artists by re recording her music so that she can have the rights to it. Like it just makes no sense really and you’re reaching to try and have something over Beyoncé as if it’s you making the deal 

[NausAllien]

Regardless of whether Bey was "inspired" by Taylor to make this deal, I think it's the wrong move for her. I just don't think she has enough star power to charge so much for a concert film and expect it not to flop when all her previous movie projects have flopped. It's going to cheapen her brand and question her power in the business.

 

It would have been so much easier for her to simply negotiate with a streaming service for an exclusive release. But I guess she has the need to keep up with younger artists to maintain her status as the Queen. For such a business-savvy person, this was a terrible business decision.

 

[liam13]

1 minute ago, Shelter said:

Bey wanted a movie release and streaming deal. Isn’t it funny you expect Bey to just hand over her project and not get what she wants but then praise someone else for doing just that.  

thats why studios, who take care of the theaters part, and streaming services, who take care of the streaming part, were reported in articles that THEY were the ones rejecting/declining/refusing the film that beyonces had been shopping around for a long time.

 

for taylors film, studios wanted it but they also wanted to send it to theaters in 2025 for whatever reasons.

 

see the difference? i guess not since yall keep missing the point that beys deal is a copy of taylors deal, not bey copies taylor and use theaters

[barbiegrande]

35 minutes ago, Feanor said:

Except AMC didn't offer Taylor a deal. Taylor's team went directly to AMC with their idea to skip studios altogether and let AMC distribute the film. This is not something AMC came up with. Beyoncé releasing her visuals/tour this way is only possible because Taylor paved the way for this release strategy to happen in the first place

Nobody ******* cares. Why is it so important for y’all to demand Beyoncé fans act like she should be sucking Taylor’s ***? Trying so hard to make it seem like Taylor is superior because YOU KNOW she’s white mediocrity personified and Beyoncé is a prime example of black women needing to be 5x as excellent to get half the adoration of their white counterparts. 
 

But I’ll just get accused of using the race card, even though Swifties know damn well what they’re doing. They go just nasty enough to get under the Hive’s skin without going full mask off

 

”Congrats for Beyonce… but also know your place” Like, wtf?

Edited October 1, 2023 by barbiegrande

[sillycilla]

40 minutes ago, liam13 said:

given that studios and streaming services rejected her film, i dont think she has better deal than this

Streaming rejected Taylord as well that’s why she went to amc. 
 

keep the same energy for both then 

[liam13]

3 minutes ago, sillycilla said:

Streaming rejected Taylord as well that’s why she went to amc. 
 

keep the same energy for both then 

i cant find a report on that, all i can find is taylor rejected studios

 

is this another attempt to rewrite history from the hive?

Edited October 1, 2023 by liam13

[bijonse]

3 minutes ago, liam13 said:

i cant find a report on that, all i can find is taylor rejected studios

 

is this another attempt of rewrite history from the hive?

No but the swifties keep trying to rewrite history so that taylor can be the “first” to do something. This thread being the prime example as if anybody cares about the deal that was made behind the scenes to get the concert films into theaters other than the people who were in the rooms. Like be real yall are trying to reach to hold something over Beyoncé. It’s like the fact that it’s a concert film, something beyonce and many others have done before, means nothing to you. Example 19991736189191 of the content itself not mattering to swifties, just the money (that they don’t get) and numbers 

Edited October 1, 2023 by bijonse

[Mr. Specialist]

56 minutes ago, liam13 said:

given that studios and streaming services rejected her film, i dont think she has better deal than this

I swear y’all just be saying anything to make yourselves feel better. The articles said a deal wasn’t made with studios and streaming serves due to budget issues (them not willing to pay Bey what she asked for) OR a lack of desirability. Given that she already has a multi-film deal with Netflix, she could have easily given it to Netflix, which would have helped them since they are losing subscribers. 
 

 

46 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said:

Yup this is not AMC deal

 

This was the idea of Taylor, her team and her parents which AMC agreed to and now Beyoncé copied.

 

if this was AMC thing it would be very different. Taylor and her team crafted this idea lol

 

52 minutes ago, Feanor said:

Except AMC didn't offer Taylor a deal. Taylor's team went directly to AMC with their idea to skip studios altogether and let AMC distribute the film. This is not something AMC came up with. Beyoncé releasing her visuals/tour this way is only possible because Taylor paved the way for this release strategy to happen in the first place

As if it wasn’t possible that the AMC CEO approached Beyoncé/Parkwood with another similar deal afterwards and then negotiated terms so that both parties were happy.

 

First of all, it was reported that Chance the Rapper actually had a similar deal as Taylor back in 2021. She did not “pave the way” like you Swifties are saying she did. Please stop trying to rewrite history.
 

Second, articles stated that revenue forecasts for movie theaters are horrible now due to the WGA and SAG strikes which impact movie production and release dates. AMC is clearly trying get as much revenue as they can since they don’t know what their financial future is going to look like.
 

Beyoncé has never been influenced by anything Taylor Swift has done nor has she ever signed the same business contract as another entrepreneur/artist. 
 

 

Edited October 1, 2023 by Mr. Specialist

[Lose My Breath]

What really is annoying is NO ONE knows ANY of the details of this "deal", and are running and foaming at the mount to jump on Beyonce.  It's really strange.

 

I guess Taylor is the only artist allowed to exist

 

14 minutes ago, barbiegrande said:

Nobody ******* cares. Why is it so important for y’all to demand Beyoncé fans act like she should be sucking Taylor’s ***? Trying so hard to make it seem like Taylor is superior because YOU KNOW she’s white mediocrity personified and Beyoncé is a prime example of black women needing to be 5x as excellent to get half the adoration of their white counterparts. 
 

But I’ll just get accused of using the race card, even though Swifties know damn well what they’re doing. They go just nasty enough to get under the Hive’s skin without going full mask off

 

”Congrats for Beyonce… but also know your place” Like, wtf?

 

AND THIS IS EXACTLY IT

[getBusy]

So this is why WE are the visuals [baby]. 

[Elusive Chanteuse]

Omg

[liam13]

1 minute ago, bijonse said:

No but the swifties keep trying to rewrite history so that taylor can be the “first” to do something. This thread being the prime example as if anybody cares about the deal that was made behind the scenes to get the concert films into theaters other than the people who were in the rooms. Like be real yall are trying to reach to hold something over Beyoncé. It’s like the fact that it’s a concert film, something beyonce and many others have done before, means nothing to you. Example 19991736189191 of the content itself not mattering to swifties, just the money (that they don’t get) and numbers 

i dont know about other occasions because i have taken no parts in them but this time, she actually is the first to strike this deal.

reports are everywhere but bey stans dont wanna admit it cuz yall dont want to except that goddess beyonce has to copy "wHiTe MeDiOcRiTy"

 

and again, you keep missing the point

[getBusy]

Mmm why are people fighting over this? It’s been done before. Go watch the one you like better (or both! Or none!) and move on. 

Edited October 1, 2023 by getBusy

[bijonse]

5 minutes ago, liam13 said:

i dont know about other occasions because i have taken no parts in them but this time, she actually is the first to strike this deal.

reports are everywhere but bey stans dont wanna admit it cuz yall dont want to except that goddess beyonce has to copy "wHiTe MeDiOcRiTy"

 

and again, you keep missing the point

I get the point. It seems like you’re the one not getting it. A concert film has been done before. Taylor is not the first person to work directly with a distributor for something and even if she was, that’s not the point - the point is that she’s a musician doing a film with a theatrical release and that’s been done before quite a few times. The only new thing about it is the behind the scenes deal taylor worked out with amc that amc is now offering/working out with other artists to get them more money as an incentive to release to amc. 
 

but the POINT of it - the concert film - has been done before. Mind you Beyoncés may not even be a concert special and she’s done those before 

[Lose My Breath]

8 minutes ago, liam13 said:

i dont know about other occasions because i have taken no parts in them but this time, she actually is the first to strike this deal.

reports are everywhere but bey stans dont wanna admit it cuz yall dont want to except that goddess beyonce has to copy "wHiTe MeDiOcRiTy"

 

and again, you keep missing the point

There is no point