Abel Minaj Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 14 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: Democratic and left-leaning voters have standards for who they vote for, while many right-wingers and Republicans have fallen into the Trump camp, so age and controversies don’t impact their support of him. The irony and ignorance in this statement is astounding. 1
Abracadabra Posted September 25, 2023 Posted September 25, 2023 I fear that US is heading to repeat 2016 all over again with all the signs that the Democratic nominee is not the right choice to take on Trump but the Democrats are just hoping that enough independents hate Trump to not vote for him, but we've seen how that went before I sincerely hope I'm wrong though
GhostBox Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 44 minutes ago, bad guy said: This poll is most likely an outlier but Biden is in serious danger for 2024. Between his own unpopularity within the Democratic Party, his absolute PANNING among Independents and Republicans, terrible economy, suffocating inflation, border disaster, and inability to put a few sentences together I wouldn’t doubt Trump can beat him. The debates will be a nightmare for Biden as well because he really has no accomplishments to stand on. The most concerning thing is the Latino and Black voter support of Trump increasing since 2020. I doubt Trump will ever win a popular vote, but he can very easily win the electoral college if this continues. A new poll shows Biden doing even better than 2020 with Hispanic voters though 🤷 https://x.com/carrasquillo/status/1706353980647886857?s=46&t=royz6Xk8Y2goDXUVqAWj1g
Moloko Plus Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 46 minutes ago, bad guy said: This poll is most likely an outlier but Biden is in serious danger for 2024. Between his own unpopularity within the Democratic Party, his absolute PANNING among Independents and Republicans, terrible economy, suffocating inflation, border disaster, and inability to put a few sentences together I wouldn’t doubt Trump can beat him. The debates will be a nightmare for Biden as well because he really has no accomplishments to stand on. The most concerning thing is the Latino and Black voter support of Trump increasing since 2020. I doubt Trump will ever win a popular vote, but he can very easily win the electoral college if this continues. The DNC is doing everything in their power to prevent debates because they know Sleepy Joe would absolutely crumble.
GhostBox Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 Just now, Moloko Plus said: The DNC is doing everything in their power to prevent debates because they know Sleepy Joe would absolutely crumble. No party would put their candidate who is the sitting president in a debate/primary. That would be stupid. Especially if the only people are Kennedy and Williamson 💀 what a waste of time that would be
Shelter Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 Trump is going to win. People are sick of Biden
GhostBox Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 51 minutes ago, bad guy said: This poll is most likely an outlier but Biden is in serious danger for 2024. Between his own unpopularity within the Democratic Party, his absolute PANNING among Independents and Republicans, terrible economy, suffocating inflation, border disaster, and inability to put a few sentences together I wouldn’t doubt Trump can beat him. The debates will be a nightmare for Biden as well because he really has no accomplishments to stand on. The most concerning thing is the Latino and Black voter support of Trump increasing since 2020. I doubt Trump will ever win a popular vote, but he can very easily win the electoral college if this continues. Also Biden does have many accomplishment's to stand on. If it wasn’t for inflation (something every country is dealing with just not us) Biden would sail to reelection Easliy.
Bloodflowers. Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 It's almost like people want fair and open primary elections for the Democratic Party
Moloko Plus Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, GhostBox said: No party would put their candidate who is the sitting president in a debate/primary. That would be stupid. Especially if the only people are Kennedy and Williamson 💀 what a waste of time that would be It’s stupid to run an inept and decrepit Biden again for 2024. He is absolutely going to lose for all the reasons bad guy listed and more.
GhostBox Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 Just now, Moloko Plus said: It’s stupid to run an inept and decrepit Biden again for 2024. He is absolutely going to lose for all the reasons bad guy listed and more. We shall see in 400+ days. 🤷 but when the other sides putting this up again. Anything’s possible 😂 https://x.com/mannyfidel/status/1706409928913485906?s=46&t=royz6Xk8Y2goDXUVqAWj1g
Abel Minaj Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 Democrats pander to minorities using social issues (that they largely contribute to) to virtue signal for votes and completely ignore them until election time comes around again. Whatever oppressed group is the flavor of the month is the one they'll play. The LGBT is going to be who they're after this time. They'll lie and play in your face for your vote. They don't have your best interest at heart. 1 2
GhostBox Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, Abel Minaj said: Democrats pander to minorities using social issues (that they largely contribute to) to virtue signal for votes and completely ignore them until election time comes around again. Whatever oppressed group is the flavor of the month is the one they'll play. The LGBT is going to be who they're after this time. They'll lie and play in your face for your vote. They don't have your best interest at heart. And You think republicans have the LGBT voters best interests at heart? 💀💀💀💀💀💀🤡🤡🤡🤡
Sannie Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) 1) The handwringing from both sides here is so . 2) Anyone who believes either side could win with such a big margin is delusional. 3) Anyone who believes a Republican would win the under 30 vote is delusional. 4) ABC/WAPO themselves say this is most likely an outlier. 5) Polling firms are still struggling with how to accurately poll young people because young people do not respond to a lot of these polls. All these conclusions some of you are coming to over a whack poll is Edited September 26, 2023 by Sannie 3
Happylittlepunk Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 If Biden loses it’s all on the democrates fault let’s be real. trump can lose but democrates need to stop fooling around and actually support mainstream policies that democrat voters want.
Gottasadae Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, bad guy said: This poll is most likely an outlier but Biden is in serious danger for 2024. Between his own unpopularity within the Democratic Party, his absolute PANNING among Independents and Republicans, terrible economy, suffocating inflation, border disaster, and inability to put a few sentences together I wouldn’t doubt Trump can beat him. The debates will be a nightmare for Biden as well because he really has no accomplishments to stand on. The most concerning thing is the Latino and Black voter support of Trump increasing since 2020. I doubt Trump will ever win a popular vote, but he can very easily win the electoral college if this continues. We’re still doing better than many other countries that have a much higher rate of inflation and price spike on almost everything. If you look at statistics, economy index is growing better under Biden that it was under Trump. The one thing that we have crisis after crisis - Covid and crazy putin with his insane war not only against Ukraine but the whole civilize world coz it keep affecting everyone. Under these circumstances any president and administration would have difficulties, it’s not like it all Biden fault. 1
woohoo Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 All I know is even if you’re as far left as I am and don’t care for Biden, This election will be our last if Trump wins. We will literally be Russia #2. Good luck with having pride parades and not ending up in labor camps. I’m voting to keep democracy alive for four more years until someone younger can step up. 2 1
rac7d Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 1 hour ago, bad guy said: This poll is most likely an outlier but Biden is in serious danger for 2024. Between his own unpopularity within the Democratic Party, his absolute PANNING among Independents and Republicans, terrible economy, suffocating inflation, border disaster, and inability to put a few sentences together I wouldn’t doubt Trump can beat him. The debates will be a nightmare for Biden as well because he really has no accomplishments to stand on. The most concerning thing is the Latino and Black voter support of Trump increasing since 2020. I doubt Trump will ever win a popular vote, but he can very easily win the electoral college if this continues. When student loans kick in next month he better watch out
50thStateofMind Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 Yes, Biden should absolutely worry, but I do not believe the results of this poll whatsoever.
Afterglow Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 3 hours ago, GraceRandolph said: It’s almost like Marianne Williamson was right. People consistently underestimate Trump. He blew Hillary out of the water and did surprisingly well in 2020 considering the circumstances. He blew Hillary out of the water simply because people on both sides were terrified of a woman taking office. It wouldn't have happened that way otherwise. And slice it any which way he lost in 2020. Republicans realize he's a liability. The only people voting for him truly are uneducated middle and southern America.
GraceRandolph Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Afterglow said: He blew Hillary out of the water simply because people on both sides were terrified of a woman taking office. It wouldn't have happened that way otherwise. And slice it any which way he lost in 2020. Republicans realize he's a liability. The only people voting for him truly are uneducated middle and southern America. That’s not the only reason he blew Clinton out of the water. Black voters who voted for Obama in 08 and 12 simply didn’t turn out for her.
Afterglow Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 2 hours ago, bad guy said: This poll is most likely an outlier but Biden is in serious danger for 2024. Between his own unpopularity within the Democratic Party, his absolute PANNING among Independents and Republicans, terrible economy, suffocating inflation, border disaster, and inability to put a few sentences together I wouldn’t doubt Trump can beat him. The debates will be a nightmare for Biden as well because he really has no accomplishments to stand on. The most concerning thing is the Latino and Black voter support of Trump increasing since 2020. I doubt Trump will ever win a popular vote, but he can very easily win the electoral college if this continues. Sis what? What are you going on about? Are you black? You're disrespectful for even typing something like that. I can guarantee that's a damn lie. Why would we increase support for someone who literally hates us? Any black space you will see universal hate for Trump and more. Now increaing Latino Trump support? That is true..
Afterglow Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said: That’s not the only reason he blew Clinton out of the water. Black voters who voted for Obama in 08 and 12 simply didn’t turn out for her. Okay? What do black people really have to do with it though? Universally people didn't vote because she was a woman which is what I said. 1
Communion Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 51 minutes ago, woohoo said: All I know is even if you’re as far left as I am and don’t care for Biden, this election will be our last Sounds like then Biden should get to campaigning
Communion Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Afterglow said: Okay? What do black people really have to do with it though? Universally people didn't vote because she was a woman which is what I said. Not at all. Many non-voters polled had nothing to say about Clinton's gender, especially in places that actually cost Clinton the 2016 election. The biggest deciding factor to Clinton losing in 2016 was low-income black voters across 3 states openly saying that they felt life didn't get better over the past 8 years and their belief that voting could make life better had fundamentally changed. Clinton was never going to win high-earning, rural conservative "independent" men in Iowa. She - because Obama did - could have won low-income voters of color in suburban-urban areas, but turnout in these places crashed in the Rust Belt because these voters felt forgotten and left behind after 8 years of false-starts and broken promises. Edited September 26, 2023 by Communion 1
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