celeb news Angelica Ross interview with THR about Emma and her apology, Ryan and AHS.

[JustLikeHoney]

Angelica Ross talks about Emma Roberts apology, Ryan Murphy's phone call and her leaving Hollywood to pursue politics in Georgia. 

 

Read it entirely and make your own opinions. 

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/angelica-ross-interview-ryan-murphy-emma-roberts-american-horror-story-1235596354/amp/

 

Here are some excerpts.

 

So back to the T-shirt guy. What became of him?

I’m seeing this man with these shirts and I’m trying to focus, and when they say action, I just said, “It’s cut. I can’t do this anymore.” I got out of the car, I went into the [production] van, and I said, “I’m not coming out of this van until you handle the situation. Either he has to take that shirt off or turn it inside out, but this is not right.” Hours were passing. We were losing daylight. So folks are panicking.

 

This scene sounds more way more intense than whatever you were supposed to shoot.

 

John, the director, comes into the trailer and he’s just like, “Angelica, look — I understand this is a difficult situation. We’ve seen these shirts and it sucks, but it’s a freedom of speech issue and we can’t do anything about it.” An hour passes, they’re still trying to get me to come out of the van. So I then tweet. “It’s a shame that I do all this work out in the world on anti-Blackness and racism and have to come to a set and do the same work.”

No less than maybe 10 seconds, my phone rings. It’s Tanase Popa, one of the producers, and he’s telling me, “Ryan Murphy thinks you should take that tweet down. Things are being handled, and he considers us a family, and we don’t share things outside the family.”

I said, “What does it mean that it’s being handled? He’s still on set and they’re still asking me to come out of my trailer. So what has been handled?” And he’s like, “I hear you. It’s just that these situations are difficult.” I said, “OK, fine, I’ll take down the tweet. But just so you know, I’m being told that this man wearing these T-shirts has freedom of speech, but I’m the one being told to take down a tweet. I feel like I’m being silenced.”

 

Two seconds later, Ryan Murphy calls me directly. So he was probably there for the whole conversation. He starts off not, “Are you OK?” Not, “What’s going on?” He starts off: “What’s your ******* problem?! Are you serious?!” He goes, “You think that I would ******* silence you after all I’ve done and I’ve been an advocate and done nothing but uplift trans Black women?”

 

After THR reached out to Ryan Murphy Productions, AHS co-executive producer Tanase Popa responded: “Ryan was directing that day on another project. Somebody had told him that Angelica had posted on Twitter and he said, ‘Can you go check with Angelica because she should come to us instead of just going to Twitter?’ I had called Angelica. She put me on speakerphone while she was in the van. Emma Roberts and John Gray were also in the van. My conversation with her was, ‘Hey, I just wanted to check in. Ryan heard that you posted on Twitter. I spoke with John Gray. He’s in the process of dealing with it with HR and labor relations. But if something happens, please come to us. I’m right by Ryan when he’s directing. I can get him easily, but it’s better to come to us. We can actually implement a solution than going to Twitter and just broadcasting this.’ 

 

She then said, ‘You are silencing me.’ And I said, ‘I am not silencing. You can post or say whatever you want, but what I’m saying is we should follow the proper protocol so that we can actually implement a solution on set instead of just going to Twitter first.’ She said, ‘OK, fine, I’m going to take down the post, but I feel like I’m being silenced. This is my role as an activist and I’m going to take the post down.’ And I said, ‘OK, I’m going to go back to set and get Ryan to call you back.’ She says he called her within ‘seconds.’ Ryan was in the middle of several takes, and it took about 10 minutes. He then called her, he stepped outside. I was next to him. His assistant Sara Stelwagen was next to him and we did not hear him cuss at her or say, ‘After all I’ve done for you, why would you do this?’ He basically said, ‘I don’t understand why you would go to Twitter instead of coming to us.‘”

 

 

[izebize]

I feel bad for her and it's really annoying how when someone decides to speak up about their experiences these huge studios will instantly start to gaslight them. I can only imagine what the rest of the Pose cast had to go through, I'm sure they only haven't spoken about their experiences bc they don't want to miss out on any opportunities for future projects. :( 

[Johnny Jacobs]

She's going to milk it 

 

 

Seriously tho... That's great shes speaking up against it. Good for her. 

Edited September 23, 2023 by Johnny Jacobs

[campelo]

Of course she will milk it, this is the most attention she received since Pose. 

[WERKER]

Interesting. Read the whole quote. Seems like Angelica took what Emma said out of context. Emma was referring to Angelica being the only one who was being mean because unprovoked Angelica started shading her, which is why she said “don’t you mean lady?” 
 

She goes, “I was really just referring to myself.” I said, “Don’t. Don’t do it.” What happened is this: She had not allowed the makeup team to age her that much. We were supposed to be aged several years. So I knew from the makeup department about what was going on. So she comes to set and I’m like, “Oh, you look rested.” And she goes, “John [the director], Angelica’s being mean!” And he goes, “OK, ladies …” And she goes, “Don’t you mean … lady?”

Edited September 23, 2023 by WERKER

[daveeherman]

38 minutes ago, campelo said:

Of course she will milk it, this is the most attention she received since Pose. 

Okay but like… let’s be glad she’s speaking up 

[Nido]

So now she's clarifying that the transphobic Emma exchange likely was a misunderstanding and attempted clap back that went wrong about the aging makeup. 

 

As someone who actually watched that 1984 season when it premiered, I did notice Emma's character barely aging when they were in the the "modern day" part, her refusing to do the old makeup makes a lot of sense 

[Windy Day]

so what i'm getting from that is that emma reached to her privately to apologize but she instead ran to the medias to stir up more drama...? people on social medias are already starting to side with emma despite her being public enemy a few days ago lmao...

[Frozen99]

7 minutes ago, Nido said:

So now she's clarifying that the transphobic Emma exchange likely was a misunderstanding and attempted clap back that went wrong about the aging makeup. 

 

As someone who actually watched that 1984 season when it premiered, I did notice Emma's character barely aging when they were in the the "modern day" part, her refusing to do the old makeup makes a lot of sense 

interesting turn of events, ppl nowadays are so fast to jump to conclusions without any evidence or hearing about the whole situation. 

[Otter]

I didn't comment on the original thread about Emma's comment. I knew she wouldn't outright lie about Emma saying but I suspected there was some context missing, like playful shade gone wrong  versus her actually just throwing transphobic hate at Angelica...

 

 

[Weld_E]

Can someone explain how Emmas shade is taken out of context and NOT transphobic? The only meaning I can make of it is that Emma is the only ‘lady’ between the two of them… 

[Onyxmage]

Oh wow she's really milking this.

[CaptainMusic]

1 hour ago, WERKER said:

Interesting. Read the whole quote. Seems like Angelica took what Emma said out of context. Emma was referring to Angelica being the only one who was being mean because unprovoked Angelica started shading her, which is why she said “don’t you mean lady?” 
 

She goes, “I was really just referring to myself.” I said, “Don’t. Don’t do it.” What happened is this: She had not allowed the makeup team to age her that much. We were supposed to be aged several years. So I knew from the makeup department about what was going on. So she comes to set and I’m like, “Oh, you look rested.” And she goes, “John [the director], Angelica’s being mean!” And he goes, “OK, ladies …” And she goes, “Don’t you mean … lady?”

 

32 minutes ago, Nido said:

So now she's clarifying that the transphobic Emma exchange likely was a misunderstanding and attempted clap back that went wrong about the aging makeup. 

 

As someone who actually watched that 1984 season when it premiered, I did notice Emma's character barely aging when they were in the the "modern day" part, her refusing to do the old makeup makes a lot of sense 

 

 

23 minutes ago, Frozen99 said:

interesting turn of events, ppl nowadays are so fast to jump to conclusions without any evidence or hearing about the whole situation. 

 

9 minutes ago, Weld_E said:

Can someone explain how Emmas shade is taken out of context and NOT transphobic? The only meaning I can make of it is that Emma is the only ‘lady’ between the two of them… 

Angelica said that Emma said she was “referring to herself”

 

If Emma meant Angelica was the only one being mean then she would’ve said I was “referring to you”

 

Nice try though. 

[Nido]

1 minute ago, CaptainMusic said:

Angelica said that Emma said she was “referring to herself”

 

If Emma meant Angelica was the only one being mean then she would’ve said I was “referring to you”

 

Nice try though. 

It could be that Emma wasn't aged up like Angelica so she was referring to herself as the (younger) "lady" in response to Angelica saying she wasn't looking as old as supposed to. We'll never truly know what went on in their heads at the time. It's not like you'd expect a random clap back you made to be brought up again cause someone was offended by it and held it in without telling you for 4 years. Angelica could have called her out right on the spot instead of holding it in for years, like what she did with the crew member wearing offensive t-shirts by refusing to leave her trailer before Ryan Murphy directly contacted her to solve the issue.

 

I think the moral of the story is that you should always speak up and confront someone immediately when they make offensive remarks towards you. Some people could just be ignorant without fully realizing the impact of their bigotry, little kids especially. I'm not defending Emma cause she's a grown woman herself and admitted to her wrong by apologizing already. They've both choose to resolve this privately and move on, so should we. 

 

 

 

[toy soldier.]

Basically the director said 'ladies' plural, to make them stop, but since Emma was not doing anything bad she said to refer only to Angelica so say "lady" instead of "ladies"

[imabadkid]

wow. this isn’t easy (contrary to what people think) and it’s scary to speak up when u face any kind of injustice esp in an industry like Hollywood which is v punitive.

 

she’s smart to leave Hollywood tbh. I don’t believe that they are nearly as supportive of POC and LGBTQIA+ community as much as they pretend to outwardly and her experiences on set speak to that. also with social media and streaming it’s not the same industry, there’s way less money being made and the studios are scared because they’re not making money and are green lighting less projects. There’s been a lot of change and I think this is just the beginning so good for her for walking away and having other outside work.

[GraceRandolph]

58 minutes ago, Otter said:

I didn't comment on the original thread about Emma's comment. I knew she wouldn't outright lie about Emma saying but I suspected there was some context missing, like playful shade gone wrong  versus her actually just throwing transphobic hate at Angelica...

 

 

What the hell kind of "playful shade" is that?

[dumbsparce]

Why did she run to twitter every time she had an issue on set? She was literallly tweeting while on set. That is so unprofessional and essentially cyber-blackmailing. No wonder she "decided" to leave Hollywood.

[Otter]

35 minutes ago, GraceRandolph said:

What the hell kind of "playful shade" is that?

Implying only one of them was being a problem? Tbh if I reread it, I'm not clear... but that's reason enough for me not to just assume the worst of her calling Angelica a man.

[Exzime.]

1 hour ago, CaptainMusic said:

 

 

 

 

Angelica said that Emma said she was “referring to herself”

 

If Emma meant Angelica was the only one being mean then she would’ve said I was “referring to you”

 

Nice try though. 

From my understanding:
lady = a woman who is refined and polite

 

So when Emma was complaining that Angelica was being 'mean' - and the director said "ok, ladies" and emma said "don't you mean.... lady" = referring to herself bc she's the one who's not being mean.

 

Basically its taking on "you're not a lady" saying, which means that you're a b****.

 

 

 

 

[Villas]

Why didn’t you put how she took Emmas’ words out of context? Emma was referring to herself due to her aging makeup. She should have clarified this subject. It’s funny how Emma never came to media, instead, called Angelica in privacy to apology for this misunderstanding. However, this woman keeps to look for straws to fire back at Ryan because of their feud that we don’t care neither do the GP so get away from Emma, Angelica.

 

[Exzime.]

52 minutes ago, toy soldier. said:

Basically the director said 'ladies' plural, to make them stop, but since Emma was not doing anything bad she said to refer only to Angelica so say "lady" instead of "ladies"

This!

[Brunette Ambition]

Yeah this interview really did the opposite of what she thought it was gonna do  she’s extremely delusional. 
 

[Rainbow]

Yeah I took it as Emma referring to herself as “lady” since she wasn’t as aged as Angelica

[Bussea]

how did i know yall were in here being stupid per usual

 

glad she’s having this platform