celeb news Angelica Ross Says Emma Roberts Was Transphobic On AHS: 1984 Set

[Onyxmage]

Not this tantrum over a stupid little side comment. Then she said she didn’t talk to her the rest of the time? So ridiculous. Emma even tried to talk to her after. Why not just have a conversation with her to smooth things over?

Edited September 20, 2023 by Onyxmage

[wehan6]

1 minute ago, Onyxmage said:

Not this tantrum over a stupid little side comment. Then she said she didn’t talk to her the rest of the time? So ridiculous.

saying a transwoman isn't a lady isn't just a little side comment its straight up transphobic 

[Rotunda]

15 minutes ago, Lana Banana said:

I’ll get butchered for this but I agree. Every other trans person I’ve encountered in my life, subjectively, have always put me in a “box” of ignorance because I don’t know or understand certain things without talking to me about it. It’s frustrating when I want to give my best and learn towards everyone but am getting backlashed by the particular people of the society group because something I said came off wrong in their ears. I also can’t do a tarot reading every time I say something and predict whether this is alright or not. 

If half the trans people you meet have an issue with you then…maybe you have a problem with trans people 

[ShouldersSideways]

15 minutes ago, Lana Banana said:

I’ll get butchered for this but I agree. Every other trans person I’ve encountered in my life, subjectively, have always put me in a “box” of ignorance because I don’t know or understand certain things without talking to me about it. It’s frustrating when I want to give my best and learn towards everyone but am getting backlashed by the particular people of the society group because something I said came off wrong in their ears. I also can’t do a tarot reading every time I say something and predict whether this is alright or not. 

It isn't the way I would've handled it but you really don't get to tell people how to handle facing discrimination the proper way to deal with it.

 

And in this case, is it really misunderstanding to intentionally say a trans person isn't a lady? It was clearly mean-spirited. You don't need a tarot card to figure that out. You're not the victim for not educating yourself on a subject. 

[ImpressMeMuch]

Glad this was resolved

 

and made it really obvious to me, here and elsewhere, who are the kind of people to attempt to discredit a black, female trans voice at first chance they get!

[CaptainMusic]

This is really disappointing, yet another reminder that just because people are cool with gays (or pretend to be), doesn’t mean they’re cool with trans people. 
 

Trash. 

[Lana Banana]

28 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

It isn't the way I would've handled it but you really don't get to tell people how to handle facing discrimination the proper way to deal with it.

 

And in this case, is it really misunderstanding to intentionally say a trans person isn't a lady? It was clearly mean-spirited. You don't need a tarot card to figure that out. You're not the victim for not educating yourself on a subject. 

So you’re saying I should get offended every time someone says Latvia (the country) is the same as Russia? Considering history. Not my fault they don’t educate themselves.

 

OT, I’m also not talking about the basics. I’m talking about the in-depth stuff. 

32 minutes ago, Rotunda said:

If half the trans people you meet have an issue with you then…maybe you have a problem with trans people 

Sure, “half” being 1.5 in this case. Great critical thinking skills. And no, it’s not an issue with me, it’s the issue of me trying to ask direct questions about certain things and getting clocked for no reason, just like your reply. 

 

I don’t meet them or see them, just like every society group, they have their own places and things to be at and do. 

[orange22]

1 hour ago, dabunique said:

 

[Rotunda]

1 minute ago, Lana Banana said:

Sure, “half” being 1.5 in this case. Great critical thinking skills. And no, it’s not an issue with me, it’s the issue of me trying to ask direct questions about certain things and getting clocked for no reason, just like your reply. 

 

I don’t meet them or see them, just like every society group, they have their own places and things to be at and do.

Babe you’re the one making general statements about trans ppl from 3 interactions so idk if you want to get into a critical thinking match with me. 

[Lana Banana]

3 minutes ago, Rotunda said:

Babe you’re the one making general statements about trans ppl from 3 interactions so idk if you want to get into a critical thinking match with me. 

You patronizing me will never develop into anything intellectual anyway, that is, considering my analytics was the only thing you got out of my reply

Edited September 20, 2023 by Lana Banana

[Just a Gay on ATRL]

1 hour ago, dabunique said:

 

Well. This is nice.  It’s sad how many people in this thread straightaway assumed Angelica was lying. Really depressing.

 

It’s also really sad it took a public exposé for Emma to apologize. What she said is textbook transphobia and not only that but she intentionally went out of her way to make Angelica feel uncomfortable and inferior to her at an age and time she should’ve already known way better. Hopefully she re-evaluates how she treats others.

[tachiwaka]

1 hour ago, dabunique said:

 

I’ve always liked Emma’s characters and simultaneously thought she was a mess, so her apologizing privately within a day of being called out publicly is the most shocking thing about this story.

[Lana Banana]

1 minute ago, Jaded. said:

Well. This is nice.  It’s sad how many people in this thread straightaway assumed Angelica was lying. Really depressing.

 

It’s also really sad it took a public exposé for Emma to apologize. What she said is textbook transphobia and not only that but she intentionally went out of her way to make Angelica feel uncomfortable and inferior to her at an age and time she should’ve already known way better. Hopefully she re-evaluates how she treats others.

I agree with everything you said but isn’t it also cxnt from Angelica’s side to do so literally before the new season of AHS premieres?

[HungryByTheBuffet]

Is anyone really surprised? 

 

The way gays went "I can excuse domestic violence but I draw the line at transphobia -you can excuse domestic violence?" 

 

Anyway I still enjoy her acting and as always personally I separate the art from the artist, it was always clear what kinda girl she is... I stand with Angelica for sure 

[Gaia]

1 hour ago, dabunique said:

 

This reads like a vaguely and cryptically worded "settlement" that doesn't actually say anything.

 

1. Why is Emma not apologizing herself?

2. Why is she apologizing for "behavior that was not that of an ally" when what she did was very specifically outlined in the accusation? It should read "That you for calling and apologizing for minimalizing me as a trans woman and claiming me to not be a real lady/woman."

3. If all she wanted was a personal call from Emma why not handle the matter privately? Most people want a public apology for the platform and accountability. Airing it out publicly but then also publicly stating that it was handled behind the scenes seems like it was done for attention.

 

 

If I had to take a guess, I'd say Emma said SOMETHING inappropriate. Maybe as a joke, maybe not. It was exaggerated by Angelica, but not entirely untrue, so they came to a middle ground "settlement" that instead of Emma fighting it or suing for defamation, she'd let it go by NOT having to apologize on her account with a bigger platform because:

 

1. Suing Angelica whether the claim was accurate or not wouldn't make her look any better 

2. Prolonging any issue would only keep it in the news longer

3. She actually did say something that could be taken offensively even if not exactly what Angelica said. So she'd at some point still have to admit she said something wrong even if it wasn't what was accused.

 

 

Now Angelica has gotten her 5 seconds of notoriety, Emma "acknowledged" the scandal without actually having to do any public apology, and the whole thing will go away in 2 days. It doesn't really add up (to me). I don't think it's as black and white as people are trying to make it seem. Her apologizing on Emma's behalf is extremely strange. 

[Leptine]

Too easy apologizing now after being exposed but at least she had the decency to do it privately saving us from some pointless PR statement, however I still find disturbing that she was doing that without realizing how much offensive and vile that behaviour was to begin with.

[Just a Gay on ATRL]

12 minutes ago, Lana Banana said:

I agree with everything you said but isn’t it also cxnt from Angelica’s side to do so literally before the new season of AHS premieres?

Definitely petty and targeted but if someone had something like that to me at my job in my past I would also be petty towards them if the opportunity ever arose so I can’t blame her.

 

Angelica as Candy was a slay btw so anybody who is saying she’s desperate for 2 minutes of fame needs to watch her FAMOUS role and pivotal plot point of Pose please! 

[Jjang]

someone needs to put Emma in her place cause she can’t even act to save her life to begin with 

[Lana Banana]

5 minutes ago, Gaia said:

This reads like a vaguely and cryptically worded "settlement" that doesn't actually say anything.

 

1. Why is Emma not apologizing herself?

2. Why is she apologizing for "behavior that was not that of an ally" when what she did was very specifically outlined in the accusation? It should read "That you for calling and apologizing for minimalizing me as a trans woman and claiming me to not be a real lady/woman."

3. If all she wanted was a personal call from Emma why not handle the matter privately? Most people want a public apology for the platform and accountability. Airing it out publicly but then also publicly stating that it was handled behind the scenes seems like it was done for attention.

 

 

If I had to take a guess, I'd say Emma said SOMETHING inappropriate. Maybe as a joke, maybe not. It was exaggerated by Angelica, but not entirely untrue, so they came to a middle ground "settlement" that instead of Emma fighting it or suing for defamation, she'd let it go by NOT having to apologize on her account with a bigger platform because:

 

1. Suing Angelica whether the claim was accurate or not wouldn't make her look any better 

2. Prolonging any issue would only keep it in the news longer

3. She actually did say something that could be taken offensively even if not exactly what Angelica said. So she'd at some point still have to admit she said something wrong even if it wasn't what was accused.

 

 

Now Angelica has gotten her 5 seconds of notoriety, Emma "acknowledged" the scandal without actually having to do any public apology, and the whole thing will go away in 2 days. It doesn't really add up (to me). I don't think it's as black and white as people are trying to make it seem. Her apologizing on Emma's behalf is extremely strange. 

If anything, I assume the major issue is Ryan Murphy and him not dealing with it the way he should, i.e. Lea Michele, considering RM’s income mostly comes from the queer culture. 

Edited September 20, 2023 by Lana Banana

[Rotunda]

5 minutes ago, Gaia said:

This reads like a vaguely and cryptically worded "settlement" that doesn't actually say anything.

 

1. Why is Emma not apologizing herself?

2. Why is she apologizing for "behavior that was not that of an ally" when what she did was very specifically outlined in the accusation? It should read "That you for calling and apologizing for minimalizing me as a trans woman and claiming me to not be a real lady/woman."

3. If all she wanted was a personal call from Emma why not handle the matter privately? Most people want a public apology for the platform and accountability. Airing it out publicly but then also publicly stating that it was handled behind the scenes seems like it was done for attention.

 

 

If I had to take a guess, I'd say Emma said SOMETHING inappropriate. Maybe as a joke, maybe not. It was exaggerated by Angelica, but not entirely untrue, so they came to a middle ground "settlement" that instead of Emma fighting it or suing for defamation, she'd let it go by NOT having to apologize on her account with a bigger platform because:

 

1. Suing Angelica whether the claim was accurate or not wouldn't make her look any better 

2. Prolonging any issue would only keep it in the news longer

3. She actually did say something that could be taken offensively even if not exactly what Angelica said. So she'd at some point still have to admit she said something wrong even if it wasn't what was accused.

 

 

Now Angelica has gotten her 5 seconds of notoriety, Emma "acknowledged" the scandal without actually having to do any public apology, and the whole thing will go away in 2 days. It doesn't really add up (to me). I don't think it's as black and white as people are trying to make it seem. Her apologizing on Emma's behalf is extremely strange. 

I just know you were hiding report cards from your parents growing up 

[Lana Banana]

Just now, Rotunda said:

I just know you were hiding report cards from your parents growing up 

[P!NK2LOVE]

Love you, Emma  

[rzal]

13 minutes ago, Lana Banana said:

I agree with everything you said but isn’t it also cxnt from Angelica’s side to do so literally before the new season of AHS premieres?

She exposed Ryan Murphy 2 days ago for ghosting her after promising her an AHS season, she had to decline a Marvel role because of it. This seems like part 2 of the expose. 

 

We forgive Emma. She probably calls her gay besties fwords and thought it's acceptable to joke like that with coworkers.

[Lana Banana]

1 minute ago, rzal said:

She exposed Ryan Murphy 2 days ago for ghosting her after promising her an AHS season, she had to decline a Marvel role because of it. This seems like part 2 of the expose. 

 

We forgive Emma. She probably calls her gay besties fwords and thought it's acceptable to joke like that with coworkers.

Then she has all the right to do so. Again, like I stated before, I don’t think this was ever an Emma drag to begin with, it was just a part of the bigger problem that RM apparently is. 

[KatyPrismSpirit]

I feel bad for Angelica. It's passive aggressive comments like those when you least expect it that are the most hurtful.

 

The sad reality is however, most people in the world are transphobes in practicality.