Aethereal Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) No shade. It has a very controversial meaning behind it's title and lyrics. However sound-wise it sounds like a basic generic music for an Illumination animated movie or a child-friendly High School cheerleading theme soundtrack. And I don't mean generic as in Katy's Firework or Rihanna's Only Girl in the World. Rihanna and Katy had generic songs but they were often more polished and deep, sound-wise of course. From their catalog I think Katy's Roar is on par with this Born this Way. There are some non-"GP friendly" Gaga songs that I like; Bad Romance and Bloody Mary and some which I don't prefer like Judas. Born This Way sound wise (not the meaning) fits more in a GP friendly zone but it's not as good as Just Dance which is also a GP-friendly song. I find it odd, since the song is very special, Gaga did not polish it more. What do you think? Edited April 30 by Aethereal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears01 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) Yes. Gaga’s music had quite an evolution: Good/creative music TF(M) Mediocre: BTW Bad: Artpop Atrocious: Joanne Amazing. A career renaissance: ASIB album Back to bad: Chromatica Edited September 8, 2023 by Bears01 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorNation Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Yes. Gaga’s music had quite an evolution: Amazing music TF(M) Amazing: BTW Great : Artpop Bad: Joanne Amazing. A career renaissance: ASIB album Backto great: Chromatica 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladiator Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Nothing Fernando Garibay produced for Gaga is mediocre. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgos Groove Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 I respect the impact it had on many queer people's lives, but I can't say it's a good song. The lyrics are clunky, the production is whatever, the hook is Express Yourself. It's not terrible, but she can and has done better. The Edge of Glory and Marry the Night have always been the superior BTW singles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyboi Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 I would not call it mediocre but i'd say that the message and the impact is greater than the song itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanes Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 > Original Born This Way. For me, "Just Dance" is the most generic and dated one. This site loves to drag RedOne and other songs produced by him but holds JD on a pedestal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCiC1 Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 I always thought it sounded like Bon Jovi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Huh? For years y’all called the song noisy and now it’s generic? I can’t keep up with these narratives. Songs like YNTCD just make what Gaga achieved with BTW and Cupcakke achieved with LGBT and Crayons more impressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethereal Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Virgos Groove said: The Edge of Glory and Marry the Night have always been the superior BTW singles. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Wolf Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Just now, shyboi said: I would not call it mediocre but i'd say that the message and the impact is greater than the song itself. Yep. At the time, it was very culturally relevant, important and revolutionary. We just have to respect what Gaga did with Born This Way, and that's why the song remains a Pride staple and gay anthem, despite it not aging or being one of the best Gaga songs out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aethereal Posted September 8, 2023 Author Share Posted September 8, 2023 Just now, GraceRandolph said: Huh? For years y’all called the song noisy and now it’s generic? I can’t keep up with these narratives. Songs like YNTCD just make what Gaga achieved with BTW and Cupcakke achieved with LGBT and Crayons more impressive. Noisy dance pop music early in 2010s style = generic music. Or I got it wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejmieeen Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 It’s not a masterpiece, but it is above mediocrity. Like 7/10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkgalord Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 This is so ramdon but the answer is NO. It's one of her most outstanding gems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAMEFVCKER Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Yes. The original Express Yourself is better. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshwark Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 Probably she said, “ok, I have these lyrics, and they must absolutely fit into the song.’” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheep Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) If it didn't have that one section that was similar to the Madonna song nobody would call this song anything but a classic. The song was loud and unpolished because it was the gateway into a borderline lofi album full of tributes to 80s pop music. It was a fantastic song, an important message, and the perfect thesis statement for the album that followed it. Edited September 8, 2023 by Century 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proseductice Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 No it’s genuinely good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarticle Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 No, it's just your stan goggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perfect blue Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 The production is loud and clashy and the lyrics are cheesy and ignorant... I mean, I know it was 2011 but it was still kind of offensive to refer to people as cholas and orients at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magazine Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 It's literally a pop magnum opus 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimenawa Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 It's not the best song musically but you have to respect what she did at the height of her career. First song on the radio with the word transgender in it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAg Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 yes Born Like That is kind of the worst song on that album however, I will forever respect it for its message, how she used the terms "bisexual" and "transgender" in a mainstream pop song, and how it was the 1000th #1 song on the component chart!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylpher Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) No it would be acclaimed if released today. Probably was acclaimed back then too. Edited September 8, 2023 by Sylpher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KatyPrismSpirit Posted September 8, 2023 Share Posted September 8, 2023 No. It’s actually a very well arranged and written song. The production has dated a bit and is a little bit of it’s time but it’s still a wonderful single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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