EmailMySwift Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Cap87 said: The funny thing is she and her team were testing the waters in 2015 to see if she xan go that route and it flopped. Her team brought Maxim magazine and put her at #1 of the hottest 100. I remember watching Wendy covering this and asking their thoughts on it and nobody was here for it, they pretty do not find Taylor Swift sexy. That was flop Taylor Swift and her team quickly backed away from that since they were not getting the response they wanted. Taylor Swift has no sex appeal anyways She was able to pivot away from it and still become the biggest female artist of all time. Not everyone could do that! Edited September 7, 2023 by EmailMySwift
ScubaDive Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 She's extremely beautiful I don't see how she's not a sex symbol 1
BlueTimberwolf Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Cap87 said: The funny thing is she and her team were testing the waters in 2015 to see if she can go that route and it flopped. Her team brought Maxim magazine back and put her at #1 of the hottest 100. I remember watching Wendy covering this and asking her audience thoughts on it and nobody was here for it, they pretty much do not find Taylor Swift sexy. That was a flop Taylor Swift and her team quickly backed away from that since they were not getting the response they wanted. Taylor Swift has no sex appeal anyways That's because they picked the ugliest photo of her ever taken and put it on the cover. They were too scared to really go for it. I mean... Taylor doesn't have a sexy image, but she's for sure attractive to men and has a look women want to emulate (tall/thin/blonde). If she looked too unattractive she would not pull hot enough guys (A-list actors/models/musicians) to have the celeb relationships her fans can live vicariously through. It's a big part of her appeal. Jake Gyllenhaal/John Mayer/Joe Jonas/etc. have endless beautiful models and actress they could date, and they chose her b/c she looks just like them.
Blue Rose Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Trent W said: Taylor is going to end up being the biggest female artist of all time in a few years and maybe overall some day too. just saying anything for a hit thread
barbiegrande Posted September 7, 2023 Posted September 7, 2023 You can’t sell sex if you’re sexless 1
DammnBaby Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 32 minutes ago, ScubaDive said: She's extremely beautiful I don't see how she's not a sex symbol Beauty does not equate with sex appeal.
Kimi Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 She tried to be sexy during reputation and it backfired 1
Kimi Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 25 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: just saying anything for a hit thread Nothing controversial about that statement lol, she will for sure be most successful female
Trent W Posted September 8, 2023 Author Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Blue Rose said: just saying anything for a hit thread She will pass madonna At least commercially and in numbers And if you stay in denial this will for sure become a hit thread Edited September 8, 2023 by Trent W 1
ScubaDive Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kimi said: She tried to be sexy during reputation and it backfired Yes isn't this her sexy era? I don't get this thread i'm getting confused
Madonno Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Trent W said: She will pass madonna At least commercially and in numbers And if you stay in denial this will for sure become a hit thread No, she wont Is impossible for Taylor to sell, SELL 240M albums
Revolution Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 her focus is on her songwriting, not on her looks.
EmailMySwift Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 58 minutes ago, ScubaDive said: She's extremely beautiful I don't see how she's not a sex symbol She's extremely beautiful but she's not really a sex symbol. I do agree with @damnbaby saying beauty =/= sex symbol. For instance Mae West was a sex symbol - many consider her the first sex symbol - but it was more about her attitude than her looks.
Trent W Posted September 8, 2023 Author Posted September 8, 2023 28 minutes ago, Madonno said: No, she wont Is impossible for Taylor to sell, SELL 240M albums She won’t sell those albums, but her streaming will put her above in the long run. Taylor is bigger in the 2020s than Madonna was in the 00s which is their 3rd decade
magazine Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 Reputation was Taylor's sex era 3 hours ago, ScubaDive said: wrong account, sis? nnnnnn
Madonno Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 38 minutes ago, Trent W said: She won’t sell those albums, but her streaming will put her above in the long run. Taylor is bigger in the 2020s than Madonna was in the 00s which is their 3rd decade So Taylor won't ever surpass Madonnas's sales She may be bigger than Madonna in respectives 3rd decades, but what about their 1st and 2nd? Anyway, OT, Taykos has never been seen as a sex symbol
Cap87 Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 2 hours ago, EmailMySwift said: She was able to pivot away from it and still become the biggest female artist of all time. Not everyone could do that! Pivot from what?
Cap87 Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 2 hours ago, BlueTimberwolf said: That's because they picked the ugliest photo of her ever taken and put it on the cover. They were too scared to really go for it. I mean... Taylor doesn't have a sexy image, but she's for sure attractive to men and has a look women want to emulate (tall/thin/blonde). If she looked too unattractive she would not pull hot enough guys (A-list actors/models/musicians) to have the celeb relationships her fans can live vicariously through. It's a big part of her appeal. Jake Gyllenhaal/John Mayer/Joe Jonas/etc. have endless beautiful models and actress they could date, and they chose her b/c she looks just like them. She's attractive to some but she has no sex appeal that Britney Spears and Janet Jackson have.
Lemon Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 People here taking pride in “pointing out” that Taylor is not sex symbol…
Trent W Posted September 8, 2023 Author Posted September 8, 2023 55 minutes ago, Madonno said: So Taylor won't ever surpass Madonnas's sales She may be bigger than Madonna in respectives 3rd decades, but what about their 1st and 2nd? Anyway, OT, Taykos has never been seen as a sex symbol She won’t pass her because by the time Taylor debuted we were already in the digital era, don’t play fool Taylor was the biggest artist of the 2010s and is the one of the 2020s by really far, Madonna was not the biggest artist of the 90s or the 00s Only in their first decade Madonna was bigger and Taylor debuted pretty late in the 00s. Taylor is bigger 17 years into her career than Madonna was 17 year in. Not downplaying Madonna she’s a legend and is definitely the most impactful female artist of all time. But Taylor is objectively bigger commercially when we analyze their careers. 1
Marianah Adkins Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 Michael Jackson was not a sex symbol and yet he is the biggest solo artist ever. Same with the Beatles (yes they have teenybopper fans crying over them but they were never held to be a paragon of sexy tbh). Sex appeal was never a huge factor in becoming one of the biggest sellers of all time. It is always music and how it connected to people. Madonna just happens to be an outlier (more of an extended dimension of her huge legacy) and even then it was her music that put her at the top. If anything, she falters commercially when she uses her sex appeal to its extreme (and succeeds when she doesnt).
Axelios Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 6 hours ago, ScubaDive said: Yes isn't this her sexy era? I don't get this thread i'm getting confused No? Reputation is barely more sexy than 1989 (Style, WD).
GraceRandolph Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, Marianah Adkins said: Michael Jackson was not a sex symbol and yet he is the biggest solo artist ever. Same with the Beatles (yes they have teenybopper fans crying over them but they were never held to be a paragon of sexy tbh). Sex appeal was never a huge factor in becoming one of the biggest sellers of all time. It is always music and how it connected to people. Madonna just happens to be an outlier (more of an extended dimension of her huge legacy) and even then it was her music that put her at the top. If anything, she falters commercially when she uses her sex appeal to its extreme (and succeeds when she doesnt). MJ and the Beatles were considered sex symbols in their prime though.
Marianah Adkins Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 1 minute ago, GraceRandolph said: MJ and the Beatles were considered sex symbols in their prime though. The Beatles I can see but MJ? Maybe to his stans but the appeal of MJ was his family friendly image + amazing music. He was the artist that your suburban parents or small town grandparents can also enjoy, hence Thriller’s blockbuster sales. A sex symbol is usually the artist that you could not listen with your parents. Its the reason why Elvis, Madonna and the Beatles were so controversial at the beginning because of their insane sex appeal. I dont think MJ was on that level of sex appeal infamy. Either way, sex appeal is not the end all anyway of success. Its an added plus if anything that extends to your cultural legacy.
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