base talk Is Taylor not being a sex symbol one of the reasons why she’s so big?

[Trent W]

Taylor is going to end up being the biggest female artist of all time in a few years and maybe overall some day too.

 

While she’s extremely talented and an excellent song writer, one of the biggest reasons I think she has gone so far is her image.

 

She has never sexualized her image, nearly all the girls in mainstream go through that sexual era phase or keep their content very sexual, she has kept herself on brand and always accessible to the next generation of teens while her lyrics mature for the older ones.

 

She’s nearly 20 years into her career and she’s the biggest artists for millennials, gen z and probably gen alpha too.

 

Do you think that this is one of the main reasons why she conquers one generation after the other?

 

 

[EmailMySwift]

She doesn't need to sexualize her image because her main draw as an artist is her brain and her wit. 

[Badgalbriel]

Yes. God, I'm so tired of reading this girl's name already. Can't stand every discussion on the internet being about her anymore. 

[blueberries]

Yes. Relying on sex and shock factor too much has an expiration date.

Edited September 7, 2023 by blueberries

[Trent W]

2 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said:

Yes. God, I'm so tired of reading this girl's name already. Can't stand every discussion on the internet being about her anymore. 

Tbh Yesterday I opened this forum and nearly 90% of the threads were about Taylor

 

But I think this point hasn’t been properly discussed 

Edited September 7, 2023 by Trent W

[Klein]

Madonna is still to this day the very biggest female artist ever and like top 5 of all time with men included and she was proud and loud about her sexuality/sensuality. I don't think being a sex symbol or not has much impact on how far a female artist's career can go, especially compared to the main factor: the music itself.

Edited September 7, 2023 by Klein

[Dula Peep]

no, our country at least has regressed so much socially in the last few years which is why they are championing her non-sexuality 

[KatyPrismSpirit]

Taylor doesn't have to sexualize herself for fame. 

[Trent W]

1 minute ago, Klein said:

Madonna is still to this day the very biggest female artist ever and like top 5 of all time with men included and she was proud and loud about her sexuality/sensuality. I don't think being a sex symbol or not has much impact on how far a female artist's career can go, especially compared to the main factor: the music itself.

Imo it closes doors, especially of parents that control what their kids listen to.

 

Britney’s decline from BOMT/Oops to Britney/ITZ commercially is the best example of this.

 

I don’t think is the main reason why she’s so big, but obviously her accessibility helps a lot.

 

 

[LittleStarmen]

yes coz she can still appeal to 5yolds

[naval23]

She's big for 10 other reasons and deservedly so

[Klein]

7 minutes ago, Trent W said:

Imo it closes doors, especially of parents that control what their kids listen to.

 

Britney’s decline from BOMT/Oops to Britney/ITZ commercially is the best example of this.

 

I don’t think is the main reason why she’s so big, but obviously her accessibility helps a lot.

And yet she's like the 7th or 8th biggest female artist ever.

 

Rihanna going from AGLM -> GGGB is also a counter example. 

 

If being sexualized had any significant drawbacks for pop artists, in wouldn't be the "norm". 

[Fleahive]

There's nothing sexy about her so idk why people are acting like she's above it. People used to say the same thing about Adele. Who wants to see Adele in bra and panties? 

[Gorjesspazze9]

Don’t know what the correlation of being a Sex Symbol has to do with being a big star

 

 

[FENTY.]

Well tbh she’s kinda cringe in I Don’t Wanna Live Forever video so it’s understandable 

[Solaria]

29 minutes ago, Klein said:

Madonna is still to this day the very biggest female artist ever and like top 5 of all time with men included and she was proud and loud about her sexuality/sensuality. I don't think being a sex symbol or not has much impact on how far a female artist's career can go, especially compared to the main factor: the music itself.

This. People forget that at the end of the day your image can yes, do damage but people will always be back to streaming you if the music is good

[ScubaDive]

Don't yall get tired of talking about Taylor Swift all the time 

[thismoment]

Tbh she can’t really pull it off, so it’s better to stay in your lane sometimes 

[shyboi]

maybe she would be even bigger? If that's possible

[Pheromosa]

she definitely uses her looks to her advantage, not overtly sexual but come on 

[Punky Rooster]

It’s being safe and relatable, playing up the “aw shucks” factor, being daggy, and having music that doesn’t diverge too much from one particular radio friendly sound.
 

She stays firmly in her lane and will never take risks again like she did slightly with Reputation. If she does that forever, her audience of primarily straight white women will be with her until the end of time.

[KillingYourCareer]

I wouldn't say that's a factor, she's still pretty much an unreachable beauty for most. Tall skinny blonde blue-eyed lady who looks straight out of a fairytale.

[liam13]

not gay men talking about female sexiness 

 

maybe to yall, taylors not sexy but to a lot of straight men, she is. i thought gay men should know better about personal preferences but well 

 

OT: she doesnt need to be one, she has a pretty face and knows how to write a good song or two 

[ForgottenSoul]

Dont think it actually really matters but I do think it was some of her appeal like she had a lot of younger girl fans who might have been more turned off if she was very sexual? 

 

I do think now days if she did want to do something a bit more sexual her fans wouldnt care. 

[ScubaDive]

27 minutes ago, ScubaDive said:

Don't yall get tired of talking about Taylor Swift all the time