poll Bigger at their peak: Britney Spears, Lady Gaga or Taylor Swift?

[SoulfulWings]

Taylor

[Chris]

Did we not have a similar thread a while back?

 

[supertiffany]

cultural it is Lady Gaga but she has the shortest lol

 

Britney is both cultural and commercial 

 

Taylor has the most impressive run but her peak cannot touch Britney and Gaga

[Aethereal]

Taylor's numbers increase exponentially everytime she release new recordings of her old material, instead of cannibalizing a decent amount her other album's streams.  Not to say that she should not expect an overall increase at all but if you get it, you get it.
 

To me Taylor's peak 2022-2023 seems heavily engineered unlike Britney's which was more natural given the nature of the streaming era and the streaming platforms in itself.

 

With that being said Britney's peak was definitely big but still overrated. None of her VMA performance are more remembered than "I'ma let you finish". (or remembered at all especially the ones with no controversy).

However the lack of internet gave Britney a more "Goddess" impactful image that celebrities of the old times used to have. And I suspect she used to push more or similar amount of units in 2000 and 2001 with her 3 albums outside of America depending how much BOMT did in 99'.  

 

[glacier76]

Are there people in this world who know one but don’t know the other two? Or know two of them but don’t know the third? 

[ScubaDive]

It's cute because it goes in progression over time. So it's always gonna go Britney, Gaga, Taylor

 

 

[1989]

Taylor for all. 

[TouchinFree]

Britney Spears.

[Bey_Rihstan]

20 hours ago, JustLikeHoney said:

Britney's "back to back 20 Million selling albums were literally a year and a half apart. 

so she sold 40M pure albums in less than 2 years while the other 2 didn't. thanks for the clarification 

[Xtianlofbritney]

21 minutes ago, Bey_Rihstan said:

so she sold 40M pure albums in less than 2 years while the other 2 didn't. thanks for the clarification 

End thread 

[JustHoran]

Britney had labels trying to re-create their own Britney. Britney was MASSIVE at her height, as big (if not bigger) as Taylor is now. You had to be there, or you wouldn't understand.

[JustLikeHoney]

On 9/3/2023 at 1:06 AM, Bey_Rihstan said:

so she sold 40M pure albums in less than 2 years while the other 2 didn't. thanks for the clarification 

And Gaga made  over $400 Million in ticket sales in her first three years as an artist from 2009-2013 Thanks for the clarification. Britney has neva. 

 

The nerv comparing pure album sales from 35 years ago to 10 years ago.

 

Let's make this even better. 

 

The Fame/TFM sold 18 million worldwide but also sold 80 million digital tracks worldwide and pulled in a 225million dollar world tour. 

 

BTW album has sold 7 million worldwide. And about 30 million digital tracks and pulled in a 185 million dollar world tour. 

 

And if you look at radio audience Gaga wins again. 

 

Gaga dominated everything in her first three to four years. Nobody could touch her at that time. 

 

Britney just sold 40 million. Nothing compared to artists like Celine Dion at that time. Celine had 2 30 million selling albums 12 million selling Christmas albums and a 30 million selling sound track and a 20 million selling greats hits from 1996 to 2000. 

 

Britney was never the biggest anything of her time. She was just a blond popgirl with above average success. I mean Shania had a 40 million selling album during that same time period and the one before that sold 20 million. 

Edited September 5, 2023 by JustLikeHoney

[Soda Pop Queen]

On 9/1/2023 at 12:03 PM, Erreur2 La Nature said:

You're on a website with 70% of Swifties, girl.

lol basically. I'm willing to be that half of them weren't even born when Britney was at her peak and at least a third of them barely even remember Gaga's peak.

Edited September 3, 2023 by Soda Pop Queen

[Eternium]

ATRL is so delusional. Taylor is bombing in a cultural sense and only seems commercially successful because we’re using fake streams to inflate her stats. When you look at pure sales, she had to have two re-releases for a bomb like Midnights to even sell as much as an Aespa mini-album. Her album sales in 2023 are mediocre and she can’t even keep up with Stray Kidz. Let’s not even forget that her last song with cultural impact was a decade ago.

[JustLikeHoney]

5 minutes ago, Eternium said:

ATRL is so delusional. Taylor is bombing in a cultural sense and only seems commercially successful because we’re using fake streams to inflate her stats. When you look at pure sales, she had to have two re-releases for a bomb like Midnights to even sell as much as an Aespa mini-album. Her album sales in 2023 are mediocre and she can’t even keep up with Stray Kidz. Let’s not even forget that her last song with cultural impact was a decade ago.

Over half of K-pop fans bought the album for the merchandise

The Korea Consumer Agency announced on the 7th that 52.7% of K-pop fans buy albums for the purpose of collecting fandom goods, with only 5.7% actually listening to music on CDs.Mar 7, 2023

[Axelios]

11 minutes ago, Eternium said:

ATRL is so delusional. Taylor is bombing in a cultural sense and only seems commercially successful because we’re using fake streams to inflate her stats. When you look at pure sales, she had to have two re-releases for a bomb like Midnights to even sell as much as an Aespa mini-album. Her album sales in 2023 are mediocre and she can’t even keep up with Stray Kidz. Let’s not even forget that her last song with cultural impact was a decade ago.

[TouchinFree]

1 hour ago, Bey_Rihstan said:

so she sold 40M pure albums in less than 2 years while the other 2 didn't. thanks for the clarification 

[kataraqueen]

53 minutes ago, JustLikeHoney said:

Over half of K-pop fans bought the album for the merchandise

The Korea Consumer Agency announced on the 7th that 52.7% of K-pop fans buy albums for the purpose of collecting fandom goods, with only 5.7% actually listening to music on CDs.Mar 7, 2023

... because they don't have CD players / it's a hassle to not just stream it, such a useless study

 

it's still cultural impact and no one that's into k-pop would have assumed it's for anything but the collector's value, just like all of Taylor's vinyl sales

[Mystic Boy]

1 hour ago, Eternium said:

ATRL is so delusional. Taylor is bombing in a cultural sense and only seems commercially successful because we’re using fake streams to inflate her stats. When you look at pure sales, she had to have two re-releases for a bomb like Midnights to even sell as much as an Aespa mini-album. Her album sales in 2023 are mediocre and she can’t even keep up with Stray Kidz. Let’s not even forget that her last song with cultural impact was a decade ago.

How can anyone takes you seriously with posts like these ? Like really

I dont like Taylor Swift but this is some high level delusional trolling

[Raspberries]

3 hours ago, Eternium said:

ATRL is so delusional. Taylor is bombing in a cultural sense and only seems commercially successful because we’re using fake streams to inflate her stats. When you look at pure sales, she had to have two re-releases for a bomb like Midnights to even sell as much as an Aespa mini-album. Her album sales in 2023 are mediocre and she can’t even keep up with Stray Kidz. Let’s not even forget that her last song with cultural impact was a decade ago.

You have gotta be the most delusional person on this website  

[WildHeart]

4 hours ago, Eternium said:

ATRL is so delusional. Taylor is bombing in a cultural sense and only seems commercially successful because we’re using fake streams to inflate her stats. When you look at pure sales, she had to have two re-releases for a bomb like Midnights to even sell as much as an Aespa mini-album. Her album sales in 2023 are mediocre and she can’t even keep up with Stray Kidz. Let’s not even forget that her last song with cultural impact was a decade ago.

[Badgalbriel]

10 hours ago, glacier76 said:

Are there people in this world who know one but don’t know the other two? Or know two of them but don’t know the third? 

Yeah, younger Gen have no idea who Britney is. Yesterday I played One More Time at the car and my sister asked if she died

[Eternium]

8 hours ago, JustLikeHoney said:

Over half of K-pop fans bought the album for the merchandise

The Korea Consumer Agency announced on the 7th that 52.7% of K-pop fans buy albums for the purpose of collecting fandom goods, with only 5.7% actually listening to music on CDs.Mar 7, 2023

Welcome to 2023. Nobody actually listens to the CD - they buy it because they like the artist, they want to support them and they like the entire package. Isn’t that why Taylor, like the rest of the K-pop industry, copied Girls’ Generation’s “Oh” and tried to include random photo cards with their albums (see: the polaroids in 1989)? Lover and Reputation also took packaging notes from K-pop and Taylor’s latest album has almost 20 editions.

 

Why would spending your money on an artist not reflect their success but streams, which the major platforms are admitting they’re struggling to weed out fake streams, count? I don’t see why a K-pop stan buying 10 albums of an artist they love and listen to all the time shouldn’t count but the girls here are so quick to throw in unregulated platform streams to inflate their faves’ success.

3 hours ago, Badgalbriel said:

Yeah, younger Gen have no idea who Britney is. Yesterday I played One More Time at the car and my sister asked if she died

This is what I love about the Swifties. When you point out that another woman is more successful and/or has had more impact than Taylor Swift, they start joking about that woman dying. What a lovely group of people.

[Badgalbriel]

1 minute ago, Eternium said:

Welcome to 2023. Nobody actually listens to the CD - they buy it because they like the artist, they want to support them and they like the entire package. Isn’t that why Taylor, like the rest of the K-pop industry, copied Girls’ Generation’s “Oh” and tried to include random photo cards with their albums (see: the polaroids in 1989)? Lover and Reputation also took packaging notes from K-pop and Taylor’s latest album has almost 20 editions.

 

Why would spending your money on an artist not reflect their success but streams, which the major platforms are admitting they’re struggling to weed out fake streams, count? I don’t see why a K-pop stan buying 10 albums of an artist they love and listen to all the time shouldn’t count but the girls here are so quick to throw in unregulated platform streams to inflate their faves’ success.

This is what I love about the Swifties. When you point out that another woman is more successful and/or has had more impact than Taylor Swift, they start joking about that woman dying. What a lovely group of people.

That's not a joke. That's the literal question of a 10yo kid. But it's understandable. Britney haven't been active for kids to know her. 

[Popboi.]

9 hours ago, Eternium said:

ATRL is so delusional. Taylor is bombing in a cultural sense and only seems commercially successful because we’re using fake streams to inflate her stats. When you look at pure sales, she had to have two re-releases for a bomb like Midnights to even sell as much as an Aespa mini-album. Her album sales in 2023 are mediocre and she can’t even keep up with Stray Kidz. Let’s not even forget that her last song with cultural impact was a decade ago.

"Bombing in a cultural sense", why, because her astronomical success isn't fueled by stunts like the catholic lolita, walking around with a mic on mute holding a snake or wearing a piece of meat? "Fake streams to inflate her stats", then why is she also the top selling western artist in pure sales by a HUGE margin, the biggest touring act of all time. You have to rely on comparing her pure sales to KPOP stars when their pure sales are still big while they're absolutely dead in the water in the west. Anti-Hero will most likely end up her biggest hit in very much every country outside Japan, I'm sure she couldn't care less about what user Eternium subjectively (yes, subjectively) thinks "cultural impact" is.

 

Give it up

Edited September 3, 2023 by Popboi.