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Posted
6 hours ago, naval23 said:

Yes! Even Manos hitting #2 there and The Spirit Indestructible going top 3 there with 2 top 30 hits 

 

It's crazy how they loved her more than Canada 

It's not crazy... we have chosen to make her our musical president. Before her, it was Anastacia who dominated... Nelly just took her rightful place. After Nelly, Adele took over, but I am sure Nelly can reclaim her Germanic throne. 

Posted
5 hours ago, I54X said:

When in history were Pink and Shakira the biggest artist when it was peak Christina, Jlo, Ashanti and to some extent Beyonce who were ruling the decade. 

P!nk yes, but Shakira or peak Christina, J.LO etc no. Not in Germany.

 

 

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Both songs are magic! Timeless! 

 

But say it right's production is Devine... 

Posted

It kind of did :michael:

Posted
9 hours ago, naval23 said:

9 weeks at #2

 

Having the #1 album of the year and #2 and #3 single of the year 

 

Folklore going multiplatinum there and being a top 5 best seller of 2004

 

They really loved her 

Not to mention The Ride charted higher there than some other girls most recent albums (Mariah’s Caution for example) :deadbanana4:

Posted
9 hours ago, I54X said:

When in history were Pink and Shakira the biggest artist when it was peak Christina, Jlo, Ashanti and to some extent Beyonce who were ruling the decade. 

 

4 hours ago, stevyy said:

P!nk yes, but Shakira or peak Christina, J.LO etc no. Not in Germany.

 

 

The disrespect for Shakira :ahh:

 

List of highest-certified music artists in Germany

 

  • Shakira: 6,425,000 certified units.
  • Lady Gaga: 6,200,000 certified units.
  • Pink: 5,875,000 certified units.
  • Britney Spears: 5,350,000 certified units. 

Based on certifications by the BVMI (Bundesverband Musikindustrie).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-certified_music_artists_in_Germany

 

  • "Whenever Wherever" peaked at #1 in Germany, was #2 on the year-end chart in Germany
  • "Underneath Your Clothes" peaked at #2 in Germany
  • "Don't Bother" peaked at #7 in Germany
  • "La Tortura" peaked at #4 in Germany
  • "Hips Don't Lie" peaked at #1, was #3 on the year-end charts in Germany, and is 3x Platinum
  • "Waka Waka" peaked at #1 and is 4x Platinum in Germany
  • "She Wolf" peaked at #2 in Germany
  • "Loca" peaked at #6 in Germany
  • "La La La" peaked at #12 in Germany

 

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The better song won.

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Posted
2 hours ago, vuelve88 said:

 

The disrespect for Shakira :ahh:

 

List of highest-certified music artists in Germany

 

  • Shakira: 6,425,000 certified units.

Based on certifications by the BVMI (Bundesverband Musikindustrie).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-certified_music_artists_in_Germany

alberms, hunny. alberms. 

Posted

ILAB is the better song but I'm just surprised the Loose era didn't get her any Grammys :doc:

Posted (edited)
34 minutes ago, stevyy said:

alberms, hunny. alberms. 

"Artist", hunny. Not you trying to switch it to albums since your claim was easily disproven with facts. :rip: But I know you find every excuse to discredit Shakira. :ahh:The mental gymnastics to make Shakira seem unsuccessful in a country where she has some of the highest certifications and multiple #1 hits. 

 

Shakira Albums:

 

  • Laundry Service: #2 peak in Germany and #2 on the 2002 Year End Chart in Germany
  • Fijacion Oral Vol. 1: #1 peak in Germany and #13 on the 2005 Year End Chart in Germany (and it's a completely Spanish album) 
  • Oral Fixation Vol. 2: #3 peak in Germany and #12 on the 2006 Year End Chart in Germany
  • She Wolf: #3 peak in Germany
  • Sale El Sol: #6 peak in Germany (Spanish album)
  • Shakira.: #5 peak in Germany
  • El Dorado: #19 peak in Germany (Spanish album)

 

That was fun. Until next time, stevyy. :ahh:

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SIR deserved a grammy too, who won it that year? 

Posted
4 minutes ago, UnusualBoy said:

SIR deserved a grammy too, who won it that year? 

Amy Winehouse with what is hardly a pop song

Posted

No, turn off the lights deserved instead!

Posted
42 minutes ago, vuelve88 said:

"Artist", hunny. Not you trying to switch it to albums since your claim was easily disproven with facts. :rip: But I know you find every excuse to discredit Shakira. :ahh:The mental gymnastics to make Shakira seem unsuccessful in a country where she has some of the highest certifications and multiple #1 hits. 

 

Shakira Albums:

 

  • Laundry Service: #2 peak in Germany and #2 on the 2002 Year End Chart in Germany
  • Fijacion Oral Vol. 1: #1 peak in Germany and #13 on the 2005 Year End Chart in Germany (and it's a completely Spanish album) 
  • Oral Fixation Vol. 2: #3 peak in Germany and #12 on the 2006 Year End Chart in Germany
  • She Wolf: #3 peak in Germany
  • Sale El Sol: #6 peak in Germany (Spanish album)
  • Shakira.: #5 peak in Germany
  • El Dorado: #19 peak in Germany (Spanish album)

 

That was fun. Until next time, stevyy. :ahh:

BVMI:

 

Shak

2001 - 5xG - 750,000 - Laundry Service

2005 - 3xG - 300,000 - Fijacion 1

2005 - 3xG - 300,000 - Fijacion 2

2009 - Gold - 100,000 - She Wolf

2010 - 1xP - 200,000 - Sale El Sol

= 1,650,000 albums certified

 

Nell

2000 - 1xG - 150,000 - Whoa Nelly

2003 - 2xP - 400,000 - Folklore

2006 - 5xP - 1,000,000 - Loose

2009 - 1xG - 100,000 - Mi Plan

2010 - 1xG - 100,000 - Best Of

= 1,750,000 albums certified

 

Xtina:

2002 - 1xP - 300,000 - Stripped

2006 - 3xG - 300,000 - B2B

= 600,000 albums certified

 

J.Lo.:

1999 - 1xG - 250,000 - On The 6

2001 - 1xP - 300,000 - J.Lo

2002 - 1xG - 150,000 - This is me

2013 - 1xG - 100,000 - Love

= 800,000

 

Taylor:

2008 - 1xG - 100,000 - Fearless

2010 - 1xG - 100,000 - Speak Now

2012 - 1xG - 100,000 - Red

2014 - 1xP - 200,000 - 1989

2017 - 1xG - 100,000 - Reputation

2019 - 1xG - 100,000 - Lover

2022 - 1xG - 100,000 - Midnights

= 800,000

 

Nelly slaying with that 1 million selling album. (It's probably under-certified). 

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4 minutes ago, stevyy said:

BVMI:

 

Shak

2001 - 5xG - 750,000 - Laundry Service

2005 - 3xG - 300,000 - Fijacion 1

2005 - 3xG - 300,000 - Fijacion 2

2009 - Gold - 100,000 - She Wolf

2010 - 1xP - 200,000 - Sale El Sol

= 1,650,000 albums certified

 

Nell

2000 - 1xG - 150,000 - Whoa Nelly

2003 - 2xP - 400,000 - Folklore

2006 - 5xP - 1,000,000 - Loose

2009 - 1xG - 100,000 - Mi Plan

2010 - 1xG - 100,000 - Best Of

= 1,750,000 albums certified

 

Xtina:

2002 - 1xP - 300,000 - Stripped

2006 - 3xG - 300,000 - B2B

= 600,000 albums certified

 

J.Lo.:

1999 - 1xG - 250,000 - On The 6

2001 - 1xP - 300,000 - J.Lo

2002 - 1xG - 150,000 - This is me

2013 - 1xG - 100,000 - Love

= 800,000

 

Taylor:

2008 - 1xG - 100,000 - Fearless

2010 - 1xG - 100,000 - Speak Now

2012 - 1xG - 100,000 - Red

2014 - 1xP - 200,000 - 1989

2017 - 1xG - 100,000 - Reputation

2019 - 1xG - 100,000 - Lover

2022 - 1xG - 100,000 - Midnights

= 800,000

 

Nelly slaying with that 1 million selling album. (It's probably under-certified). 

Thanks for reaffirming that Shakira is successful with both albums and records in Germany. LOL :ahh: 

I look forward to your future posts about 90s artists streaming stats where Shakira continues to be #1 (as she has been for years) but somehow you will claim she is unsuccessful. :ahh:

Posted
On 8/23/2023 at 11:38 PM, BraveNewSeth said:

I love them both but they each give me different vibes. ILAB is a bit trendy hoppy (still a great song!) imo while SIR has a timeless appeal to it. That song takes me places :jonny:

I feel the opposite -I'm Like a Bird sounds unique to me - hip hop elements mixed with folk-ish guitar & genuine lyrics that weren't afraid to be cheesy, whereas Say it Right is very late aughts/Gossip Girl vibe with the trendy late 00s Timbaland production.

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Posted

Talent lost

Posted
1 hour ago, eleganceislearned said:

I feel the opposite -I'm Like a Bird sounds unique to me - hip hop elements mixed with folk-ish guitar & genuine lyrics that weren't afraid to be cheesy, whereas Say it Right is very late aughts/Gossip Girl vibe with the trendy late 00s Timbaland production.

I respect that. Maybe trend hop wasn’t the right phrase, but ILAB just reminds me of the singer/songwriter material that was being released heavily around that time (Vanessa Williams, Natalie, etc.). Meanwhile I find SIR to be ethereal. Nelly and Timbaland really tapped into a mysticism that very few artists have been able to recreate since then with that song. 

Posted
21 hours ago, vuelve88 said:

Thanks for reaffirming that Shakira is successful with both albums and records in Germany. LOL :ahh: 

I look forward to your future posts about 90s artists streaming stats where Shakira continues to be #1 (as she has been for years) but somehow you will claim she is unsuccessful. :ahh:

I never said Shaky wa sunsuccessful. It's all in your head babe. I said that she never dominated an era like Nelly did with Loose or Anastacia with her first 2 albums. Shaky was always there after Laundry Service... but The Germanics didn't crown her empress of the nation. That title only belong to a few acts such as Nelly, Anastacia, Madonna, Adele and more recently Helene Fischer - High Empress of them all. 

 

P!nk btw has sold over 4 million albums in Germany (certified). 

 

I looked at that post which you seem to like so much and was shocked to see someone link Christina or J.LO with the big acts in Germany.

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no talent lost

 

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Posted (edited)

Bumping an old thread because it's lovely to see proof that Nelly Furtado is more talented than the Someone Should Put a Muzzle on That Woman producer and she does NOT need to work with him again (and she didn't) :clap3:

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