Fleabag Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 I was already gutted when this first came to light but every subsequent revelation that comes out of this situation just makes the feeling even worse (particularly the double down with the pinned comment). This was a woman who built her brand on queer allyship, sounds, and aesthetics for decades only to turn around and do this. Like she dedicated an entire song to Paris is Burning???? What the **** happened????? It's honestly makes me reflect on and question the way I interact with non-queer female artists as a queer fan, cause if this can happen with someone like Roísín, nobody is safe. Horrifically disappointing 10
magicfever Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 7 hours ago, madonnas said: I get what you are saying but do we really know that much about her personal life in that way? That‘s true. I just meant the way she talks in interviews or on her socials. But you are right, in the end we don‘t know her. We‘ll probably never know if it‘s her account or not.
bestfiction Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 I don't even see that pinned comment under her Instagram post
KMO Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, campelo said: Not a Kylie Stan talking about the vocals of someone else So you’re gonna die on this hill defending blatant, repeated transphobia? You’ve not embarrassed or read anyone but yourself. Edited August 28, 2023 by KMO 7
Uncatena Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 oh god its even worse than I thought... im gutted
campelo Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, KMO said: So you’re gonna die on this hill defending blatant, repeated transphobia? You’ve not embarrassed or read anyone but yourself. Girlie you can drag her as you want, but check your fave skills before trying to come from someone Edited August 28, 2023 by campelo 1 1 1 10
KMO Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, campelo said: Girlie you can drag her as you want, but check your fave skills before trying to come from someone Who’s in your avi? 1
Gaia Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 On 8/23/2023 at 1:14 PM, Shimenawa said: Yeah I don't believe she is transphobic but she must think you must be a certain age before making the decision to transition. That is not transphobia It’s actually kind of insane to me that if you have a “different” opinion than the far far left you’re instantly given a radical label e.g. Racist Homophobic Transphobic Xenophobic etc. This is exactly what emboldens the far far right and why we’re getting Trumps, DeSantis’, etc. I wish people understood throwing out these labels like Monopoly money does more harm than good. What someone may have commented in passing e.g “I don’t believe children should medically transition. Being a legal adult with a mostly developed brain to minimize the risk of regret should be a bare minimum requirement” very quickly turns into actual phobia after they’re harassed and cancelled e.g. “I’m a bad guy for wanting for people to fully grown adults before transitioning? That makes no sense. You guys just want to take advantage of children, pump them full of drugs, and profit off of them with no care for them. This is just an agenda by the far left and big pharma! They’re pushing LGBT on children, confusing them, then taking advantage!” Far left are literally creating monsters and proudly keep up the same **** 1 4 17
Daddy Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 On 8/27/2023 at 2:19 PM, KMO said: I knew I could never get into her wack ass music for a reason. Gays gagging and gooping all over twitter for that circus horn mess and shrieking vocals. Miss me forever with that flop. No reason to come for her flawless music, sis. 2
Vermillion Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 The PopJustice reveals All of this is too much for me…
bestfiction Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, Espresso said: The PopJustice reveals All of this is too much for me… Wait, what's there?
Vermillion Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 19 minutes ago, bestfiction said: Wait, what's there?
bestfiction Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Espresso said: Oh, this Feels like a reach tbh
Communion Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Gaia said: What someone may have commented in passing e.g “I don’t believe children should medically transition. Except Roisin was clearly far down the anti-science rabbit hole that the entire discussion that started this was her making such comments and her own friends on her personal Facebook trying to engage with her that she may have been misinformed by people who wish to frame gender affirming care as greater in harm than true. In response to this, she branded a "BIG PHARMA IS BEHIND THIS" conspiracy that veered into well known TERF talking points. When fans asked her to clarify her stance, after the exchange became public, she couldn't even give people a straight forward answer and instead platformed an account that called trans people groomers and pinned a comment from said user accusing trans people of being child abusers and claiming that "big pharma is transing our gay youth and killing them". No one made this person a reactionary. They've been so clearly inundated with this rhetoric and views and allowing them to fester that she's an expert in the lingo and anti-scientific misinformation. Why are her feelings and ego more important than asking her to not stop medical disinformation? ATRL is hosted in the US and I am an American and libel laws are thankfully not like they are in the UK so I will make the facts very fuckiing clear: Roisin Murphy is a hateful bigot and transphobe. Roisin Murphy does not display an ounce of intelligence or understanding about gender affirming care and thus appears wildly ignorant to reality. Roisin Murphy wants trans youth to kill themselves than recognize the hatred that she's allowed herself to fester in makes her ignorant and ill informed. Edited August 28, 2023 by Communion 1 8 1
Cain Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Gaia said: Far left are literally creating monsters and proudly keep up the same **** The far left is just calling out the monsters no one else wants to acknowledge are there 9 2
Yog Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 I’ve listened & liked her last album, thankfully not doing that again, it’s saddening to alienate your fanbase based on ignorance
Headlock Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Gaia said: It’s actually kind of insane to me that if you have a “different” opinion than the far far left you’re instantly given a radical label e.g. Racist Homophobic Transphobic Xenophobic etc. This is exactly what emboldens the far far right and why we’re getting Trumps, DeSantis’, etc. I wish people understood throwing out these labels like Monopoly money does more harm than good. What someone may have commented in passing e.g “I don’t believe children should medically transition. Being a legal adult with a mostly developed brain to minimize the risk of regret should be a bare minimum requirement” very quickly turns into actual phobia after they’re harassed and cancelled e.g. “I’m a bad guy for wanting for people to fully grown adults before transitioning? That makes no sense. You guys just want to take advantage of children, pump them full of drugs, and profit off of them with no care for them. This is just an agenda by the far left and big pharma! They’re pushing LGBT on children, confusing them, then taking advantage!” Far left are literally creating monsters and proudly keep up the same **** Do queer people ~create~ homophobes for rightfully calling people who say “I just think marriage should be between a man and a woman like god intended!” homophobic? No of course not, those people ARE homophobic. Whether they decide to dig their heels in even farther is their onus and fault, not queer people. So why is this changed for you with trans individuals? The statement you gave as an example: “I don’t believe children should medically transition. Being a legal adult with a mostly developed brain to minimize the risk of regret should be a bare minimum requirement” IS transphobic because it does not uphold any actual medical or scientific consensus and is purely based on THEIR NEGATIVE FEELINGS ABOUT TRANS PEOPLE. Liking some trans people is not a get out of jail free card, just like saying you have a black friend does not mean you aren’t racist. Denying gender-affirming care to trans children IS transphobia, you are directly contributing to the suffering of trans individuals based on your unsubstantiated beliefs and forcing those onto trans people. The ONLY people who should be involved in the medical decision making of a child, trans or otherwise, is them, their parents, and their physician. And as we have already gone over as nauseum, the ~rates of regret~ that y’all like to parade out is literally one of the lowest rates for nearly all medical interventions. Like, including things like LASIK surgery and veneers that are advertised on billboards. 9 2
*.Digambar.* Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Gaia said: It’s actually kind of insane to me that if you have a “different” opinion than the far far left you’re instantly given a radical label e.g. Racist Homophobic Transphobic Xenophobic etc. This is exactly what emboldens the far far right and why we’re getting Trumps, DeSantis’, etc. I wish people understood throwing out these labels like Monopoly money does more harm than good. What someone may have commented in passing e.g “I don’t believe children should medically transition. Being a legal adult with a mostly developed brain to minimize the risk of regret should be a bare minimum requirement” very quickly turns into actual phobia after they’re harassed and cancelled e.g. “I’m a bad guy for wanting for people to fully grown adults before transitioning? That makes no sense. You guys just want to take advantage of children, pump them full of drugs, and profit off of them with no care for them. This is just an agenda by the far left and big pharma! They’re pushing LGBT on children, confusing them, then taking advantage!” Far left are literally creating monsters and proudly keep up the same **** The fact that you think calling out bigots is problematic. You're dumb af and a parrot for transphobic talking points. 3 1
pisuke Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 9 hours ago, KMO said: Who’s in your avi? The Queen of Pop, the reason the one in your avi exists. 1 2 5
sunbathinganimal Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 ATRL stay on topic challenge (failed) 1 1
Communion Posted August 28, 2023 Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Communion said: Except Roisin was clearly far down the anti-science rabbit hole that the entire discussion that started this was her making such comments and her own friends on her personal Facebook trying to engage with her that she may have been misinformed by people who wish to frame gender affirming care as greater in harm than true. In response to this, she branded a "BIG PHARMA IS BEHIND THIS" conspiracy that veered into well known TERF talking points. When fans asked her to clarify her stance, after the exchange became public, she couldn't even give people a straight forward answer and instead platformed an account that called trans people groomers and pinned a comment from said user accusing trans people of being child abusers and claiming that "big pharma is transing our gay youth and killing them". No one made this person a reactionary. They've been so clearly inundated with this rhetoric and views and allowing them to fester that she's an expert in the lingo and anti-scientific misinformation. Why are her feelings and ego more important than asking her to not stop medical disinformation? ATRL is hosted in the US and I am an American and libel laws are thankfully not like they are in the UK so I will make the facts very fuckiing clear: Roisin Murphy is a hateful bigot and transphobe. Roisin Murphy does not display an ounce of intelligence or understanding about gender affirming care and thus appears wildly ignorant to reality. Roisin Murphy wants trans youth to kill themselves than recognize the hatred that she's allowed herself to fester in makes her ignorant and ill informed. Not someone trying and failing to report this. I'll repeat myself just for the sake of SEO so that this thread comes up higher when you google "Roisin Murphy puberty blockers", "Roisin Murphy transphobia", "Roisin Murphy trans", "Roisin Murphy reddit", "Roisin Murphy TERF", "Roisin Murphy facebook", etc: Roisin Murphy is a hateful bigot and transphobe. Roisin Murphy does not display an ounce of intelligence or understanding about gender affirming care and thus appears wildly ignorant to reality. Roisin Murphy would rather trans youth kill themselves than be forced to recognize that the hatred that she's allowed herself to fester in from the dark corners of the internet makes her ignorant and ill informed. Imagining throwing your entire career away because you have an irrational hatred of a minority group and can't even stand in your convictions that you'll hide behind in the shadows of socia media to platform fellow bigots who'll harass on your behalf those who put forth any criticism of you and those holding you accountable for your bigotry. You can't weaponize British libel laws against an American, you transphobic idiot. The fact that she and the TERF lunatics supporting her on Twitter are likely reading this. A BIGOT! Edited August 28, 2023 by Communion 10 1 1
Chris Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 The Madonna and Kylie war in here. You guys are something else.
Brunette Ambition Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 This thread people just love to attack women when they don’t 100% abide to the woke tests, it’s so obvious. 2 1 18
Lovett Posted August 29, 2023 Posted August 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Brunette Ambition said: This thread people just love to attack women when they don’t 100% abide to the woke tests, it’s so obvious. No, people like to call out ignorance and transphobia. If you weren't trying to twist it into misogyny and dropping buzz words like 'woke', maybe you'd figure that out. 6 3
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