base talk What's happening to Doja & Olivia?

[DeepEnd]

Both Doja and Olivia had the biggest album of the pandemic that spawned #1 SMASHES, multiple billion streamed songs, and millions of tiktoks. They were everywhere and had huge hype going into their new eras. But with their new eras starting, it seems like they aren't getting anywhere near the success of their previous effort. While the first two singles from both of them debuted with decent #s, the streams quickly decline after the first day. 

 

And while this is happening, their mothers are currently smashing with Cruel Summer and Barbie World. Instead of Olivia becoming Gen Z's Taylor and Doja becoming Gen Z's Nicki, Gen Z seems to be skipping them and going to Taylor & Nicki instead. 

 

Why is this happening? Did Olivia and Doja already reach their peak? 

Edited August 13, 2023 by DeepEnd

[Devin]

You make it sound like they can’t even enter BBH100 lol. Not everything they drop will be an instant smash, they still doing fairly well for themselves tbh

[Cain]

3 minutes ago, DeepEnd said:

Both Doja and Olivia had the biggest album of the pandemic

Folklore and Future Nostalgia sweeties

[Post Malone]

Olivia is smashing? 

[Taylor fanboy]

Gen Z don’t have money yet. And those who do, they were the ones who grew up with Taylor & Nicki’s domineering years.

[Luckitty]

Olivia just got a SOLO #1 hit without needing to collab with a popular artist or sell jockstraps

[Mattyboy]

Olivia and Doja are both doing amazing, but according to atrl user @DeepEnd they both need constant #1 hits every time they release something  

Edited August 13, 2023 by Mattyboy

[TalkThatRihanna]

Doja should’ve kept the Planet Her sound, Olivia should’ve changed her sound from SOUR

[Rev8]

I guess u haven't been tracking the recent situation of Doja

[Habibro]

7 minutes ago, DeepEnd said:

Both Doja and Olivia had the biggest album of the pandemic that spawned #1 SMASHES, multiple billion streamed songs, and millions of tiktoks. They were everywhere and had huge hype going into their new eras. But with their new eras starting, it seems like they aren't getting anywhere near the success of their previous effort. While the first two singles from both of them debuted with decent #s, the streams quickly decline after the first day. 

 

And while this is happening, their mothers are currently smashing with Cruel Summer and Barbie World. Instead of Olivia becoming Gen Z's Taylor and Doja becoming Gen Z's Nicki, Gen Z seems to be skipping them and going to Taylor & Nicki instead. 

 

Why is this happening? Did Olivia and Doja already reach their peak? 

Girl you check for a Olivia more than her fans. You’re embarrassing yourself. Especially with that avi

 

OT: Olivia’s number one smash vampire is currently on pace to rise in her 7th week in the top 10. Her second single is predicted to debut top 10 and is currently sitting pretty at #1 on US Spotify. Try harder

 

now Doja is a different story. 

[Mattyboy]

1 minute ago, TalkThatRihanna said:

Doja should’ve kept the Planet Her sound, Olivia should’ve changed her sound from SOUR

Doja’s last song literally sounds like it fits on her last album though?

[Peak Now]

Not all the threads about Olivia's purported floppery when the album isn't even out yet  and isn't PTTR doing fine?

[PerfectSacrifice]

Olivia is doing fine. Doja did bomb tho

[Raptus]

Worry about your big pharma queen...her music career looks pretty dead/over 

[Devin]

7 minutes ago, TalkThatRihanna said:

Doja should’ve kept the Planet Her sound, Olivia should’ve changed her sound from SOUR

Maybe unpopular opinion but I really enjoy this new direction for Doja. Its like a diversity flex, she kinda been following the same sound from Amala to PH.

[Mr. Blue_Shirt]

11 minutes ago, TalkThatRihanna said:

Doja should’ve kept the Planet Her sound, Olivia should’ve changed her sound from SOUR

PTTR is literally sounds like a Planet Her vault track

[QueenofCopyPaste]

This thread is embarrassing 

[Mr. Blue_Shirt]

I know a setup thread when I see one

[Gladiator]

The expectations users have over Olivia exceeding success beyond anything from Sour and anything under that is considered a flop is absolutely unreasonable and unhinged, especially since she is still succeeding lol.

Edited August 13, 2023 by Gladiator

[thatsmydemi]

Olivia is literally smashing. Y'alls obsession with wanting to see this girl failing is becoming weird. 

 

Did Taylor or Nicki replicate the exact same success with each era? No. Why would Olivia or Doja? 

[ugo]

25 minutes ago, Cain said:

Folklore and Future Nostalgia sweeties

Maybe folklore but Sour is bigger than fn (if you don't count these compilation she does)

Edited August 13, 2023 by ugo

[Cain]

1 minute ago, ugo said:

Maybe folklore but Sour is bigger than fn (if you don't count these compilation she does)

Seeing as FN is bigger than Folklore this doesn’t make sense

[Jooj]

I dont even like Olivia but didnt she get a #1 song thats still in the top 10? Plus her other song is doing great on Spotify, its literally #1 in the US 

 

How good is she supposed to perform in order to not be called a flop lol

[Gladiator]

1 minute ago, Jooj said:

How good is she supposed to perform in order to not be called a flop lol

It needs to exceed drivers license, good 4 you, deja vu according to them.

[ICLDXU4HS]

27 minutes ago, Taylor fanboy said:

Gen Z don’t have money yet. And those who do, they were the ones who grew up with Taylor & Nicki’s domineering years.

They don’t have money for a Spotify account?