base talk Pick one to ban from the Hot 100

[St. Charles]

It might be likely that the next rule Billboard implements will be one of these. Which do you think would be the most necessary?

[EtherealCat]

radio is oppressive and undemocratic 

[Bicassie]

Just now, EtherealCat said:

radio is oppressive and undemocratic 

Basically 

[St. Charles]

2 minutes ago, EtherealCat said:

radio is oppressive and undemocratic 

True but Ryan Tedder said in a recent interview that radio is the main way a lot of artists (and specifically songwriters) make money now. Streaming doesn't give a fraction of what radio provides, so decreasing its performance could have unintended consequences.

[Virgos Groove]

Remove radio and watch Maroon 5's empire crumble.

 

[sunbathinganimal]

radio easily

[Illuminati]

Sales and album bombs show genuine interest. Radio on the other hand...

[byzantium]

We all complain about how stale the charts are these days, but I don’t see anyone advocating for the decaying points option.  Honestly I think it is a good idea that can help break the static on the charts and allow more artists to gain attention.  

[G.U.Y.]

Album bombs on the Hot 100 are redundant. If multiple tracks of a brand new album are popular, that should be reflected only on BB200.

[GraceRandolph]

The chart is kind of irrelevant when we can look at total streams. I think it’s time to phase it out of existence. 

[NEX]

Sales: no one is listening to individual songs they buy. Certainly not the little fraudsters, the nicki stans or the racists. At least a good chunk of people are still genuinely listening to radio like they used to. 

[Proseductice]

They should decrease radio impact. 

[unclefloprry]

All omg 

[DeepEnd]

They need to get rid of sales. 

 

Radio can stay. Radio still reflects what people are listening to, even if it can be payolad. 

[Siberian Tiger]

17 minutes ago, St. Charles said:

True but Ryan Tedder said in a recent interview that radio is the main way a lot of artists (and specifically songwriters) make money now. Streaming doesn't give a fraction of what radio provides, so decreasing its performance could have unintended consequences.

Will it stop shoving payola'd garbage down everyone's throats? Good. 

[Mordecai]

I've never understood why radio forms part of the charts in America - it's not an objective metric in the way that sales/downloads or streams are and it's not a proper method of music consumption in the way the other two are, especially now that it continues to dwindle in relevance year by year. If anything they just reflect whats popular via sales/streaming. People may choose to listen to the radio generally but they don't get to choose what specific songs they're listening to

Edited August 12, 2023 by Mordecai

[bad guy]

34 minutes ago, St. Charles said:

True but Ryan Tedder said in a recent interview that radio is the main way a lot of artists (and specifically songwriters) make money now. Streaming doesn't give a fraction of what radio provides, so decreasing its performance could have unintended consequences.

They can have their own separate chart then. Leave that undemocratic MESS out of the Hot 100.

 

[Just a Gay on ATRL]

Radio because consumers have very limited at best say of what gets played on radio and I think radio is increasingly not representing what music is actually popular/well-liked in America

[Johnny Jacobs]

Decrease radio 

 

Payola is authenticity cancer

[Material Girl]

album bombs should be limited on a chart that’s tracking singles, sort of like how the UK does it 

 

it’s always due to people streaming the entire album, which should just be reflected on the album chart 

[littlebodybigheart]

38 minutes ago, St. Charles said:

True but Ryan Tedder said in a recent interview that radio is the main way a lot of artists (and specifically songwriters) make money now. Streaming doesn't give a fraction of what radio provides, so decreasing its performance could have unintended consequences.

well no one is saying not to play artists on the radio. the main point they are trying to make is that it should have less weight on the charts. as in, if they for 50% of chart points now then it should be lowered to like 20% and then give sales/streaming more importance.

[genio]

Remove sales imo. Radio is still important, a good portion of the GP still listens to radio regardless of them using streaming services or not (like at work or in the car). 

 

Sales however are mostly stan driven at this point and have little to no relevance on the Hot 100 these days. 

[umich]

Ban the MAGAts altogether.

 

[kataraqueen]

52 minutes ago, byzantium said:

We all complain about how stale the charts are these days, but I don’t see anyone advocating for the decaying points option.  Honestly I think it is a good idea that can help break the static on the charts and allow more artists to gain attention.  

Sometimes I feel crazy for thinking that the music industry is just one big money laundering machine but then I remember that the chart point system only ever gets changed to sabotage certain acts specifically 

[fridayteenage]

24 minutes ago, Material Girl said:

album bombs should be limited on a chart that’s tracking singles, sort of like how the UK does it 

 

it’s always due to people streaming the entire album, which should just be reflected on the album chart 

did billboard say the hot 100 is meant to be singles chart?