Squall Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 UK update: 158,487 (71k CDs, 23k streams, 57,965 vinyl) Midnights was at 157k. It's going to be short for 200k.
messybottom Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cleanromantic said: are you calling me poor? nooo, if anything im jealous cause i wish i couldn't hear it 1
Cruel Summer Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Squall said: 800k was the lowest number possible though, in particular since there were no digitals included. 800 + 370 = 1170, which means she'd sell 30k in 4 days. I don't really buy the limitation thing but who knows? It’s always been a little unclear to me exactly how Billboard applies its limits anyway. Better not to stress about that side of things - it’s probably case-by-case anyway, like when the chart was delayed for ages because Levitating got audited or whatever.
Starchild Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Squall said: UK update: 158,487 (71k CDs, 23k streams, 57,965 vinyl) Midnights was at 157k. It's going to be short for 200k. oh wow it's doing better than midnights?
SpeakNowTv Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 they better shove snakes for Rep TV and butterflies for Debut TV down our throats like they did with seagulls for 1989tv i think that would be cute 3
Spark Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 I really need there to be a re-recordings documentary. I wanna know if Midnights came first or 1989 TV. There has to be some type of overlap with the sound of the vault tracks + Question. 1
omrimayo Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Starchild said: oh wow it's doing better than midnights? Yes but it's losing steam in the last 3 days compare to Midnights (better streaming staying power) so It will finish around 185-190K.
Squall Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Starchild said: oh wow it's doing better than midnights? The gap is closing (which makes sense since it's a TV). 1 minute ago, Cruel Summer said: It’s always been a little unclear to me exactly how Billboard applies its limits anyway. Better not to stress about that side of things - it’s probably case-by-case anyway, like when the chart was delayed for ages because Levitating got audited or whatever. It's so frustrating though, I want to fully understand what's happening
Cruel Summer Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Squall said: The gap is closing (which makes sense since it's a TV). It's so frustrating though, I want to fully understand what's happening Oh I totally understand that feeling. That’s why I was anxious about the whole thing anyway - Billboard always publishes a “first day” that includes preorders, so why did they just not, this time? Same reason I get a little frustrated about how Luminate data is treated like some kind of industry secret. Individuals have a very hard time getting any access to it even as artists, then they copyright the data itself and make it impossible for fans and chart hobbyists to have real transparency into what’s going on.
vale9001 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, MidnightsAtPeace said: now imagine the numbers if she had signed at least 100-150K copies How can you sign 150k copies ? Or di you mean even not personally handwritten? Edited October 31, 2023 by vale9001
Cleanromantic Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Her vocal delivery on Wonderland is so good, and she even managed to make the dated production sound less dated 2
Raphy23 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Why am I obsessed with WTNY? it used to do nothing for me.
Starchild Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said: So far, yes! They will potentially also update their article later today, if they’re doing it daily. I was thinking that for the past couple of days but for some reason everyone thought 550k was too high I know BB has never done this but Taylor is the only traffic they get, it would be smart to just release daily numbers and hold the final numbers until their chart comes out, HDD is extremely reliable so I don't see anything too out of the ordinary with it but idk
spiritboy Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Finally gave this a listen and i'll stick with the original 1989 album. I don't know if it's related to the fact that it was the first Taylor album i properly listened so i prefer those arrangements. But great to see the success of this TV.
messybottom Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) IS IT OVER NOW? OFFICIALLY ADDED TO TODAY'S TOP HITS ON SPOTIFY THE DEVIL MOVES FAST BUT TAYLOR'S TEAM MOVES FASTER Edited October 31, 2023 by messybottom 1
Cleanromantic Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 took a wrong turn fell down a rabbit hole spinning out of control the nasality of "green eyes at me" talking turned to screams wonderlaaaaand UHG where's that unhinged post about Britney's guttural vocal delivery and the atrl division between old modneys and new pop stans of ariana grande when you need it? 1
Raphy23 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 36 minutes ago, Timeless said: 1. Never said the entire album was garbage 2. Never said I was bullied either Do you have anything else to do other than berate people for expressing an opinion that is different from you? You seem to constantly have issues with people who say even the slightest negative comments/opinions on the album. Not everything has to be positive. Also just @ me next time lol That was my first time commenting about the click, and I only did because it was being discussed in here
Holiest Dreams Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 22 minutes ago, Cleanromantic said: I'm literally trying so hard to find this clicking but I hear nothing everything sounds the exact same to me. Oh I wish I hadn’t heard it because girl… BUT like I said, I definitely don’t hear the buzzing/clicking throughout the whole album like audiophiles have claimed. I don’t use high end headphones or anything, so maybe that’s it. Or I just can’t hear the frequencies they’re talking about. Like, I believe them, because these glitches can and do happen with music releases (see their Lana example)… but it’s just as well I don’t hear anything besides that one cause I’d be damned if my enjoyment was hindered by some clicking noises 1
Bosque Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Cleanromantic said: took a wrong turn fell down a rabbit hole spinning out of control the nasality of "green eyes at me" talking turned to screams wonderlaaaaand UHG where's that unhinged post about Britney's guttural vocal delivery and the atrl division between old modneys and new pop stans of ariana grande when you need it? I was surprised to see the mixed reception for this one... and then I wasn't. Further proof of a deep generational chasm that divides ATRL into two camps; the twentysomething pop sophisticates with 15 to 20 years of top-shelf pop consumption to their name, and an unruly kid crew with Scream Queens avatars and tributes to Joe Alwyn in their signatures. It's not that the latter generation is a lost cause entirely, but they've clearly never heard a "Taylor" — that is, they've never encountered a voice quite as distinctive as Taylor's. "But I know Taylor! Lover was the first album I bought!" First off, ask for a refund. And no, you don't know Taylor, you know a very stilted and subdued version of the iconic performer. The Taylor of "Wonderland" is Taylor as Taylor is intended to sound. She very skillfully vacillates between a range of tones; she nasally, then guttural, then grainy, then nasally again, then delicate. (And yes, that's how she's supposed to do it.) She's sultry. She's goofy. She's sounds slightly absurd. She's fully engaged. She's expressive in ways that "technically superior" vocalists just aren't. She is brilliant. You have no idea how brilliant she is. This is the probably purest attempt Taylor has made to harness some of that ineffable charm that made her early work so irresistible. I adore it 2 8
Cruel Summer Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Starchild said: I was thinking that for the past couple of days but for some reason everyone thought 550k was too high I know BB has never done this but Taylor is the only traffic they get, it would be smart to just release daily numbers and hold the final numbers until their chart comes out, HDD is extremely reliable so I don't see anything too out of the ordinary with it but idk I actually don’t mind the Billboard move if it’s just them reporting week-of only while still inside the tracking week, I just wish they’d actually say “this doesn’t include preorders from her web store” or something. Telling us how it’s actually doing day-to-day without preorders heavily skewing that first day gives us a way better idea of how it’s holding up, how much longevity it has, etc. 1
Raphy23 Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 31 minutes ago, Squall said: Pay attention to the 2nd verse, it's actually annoying It sounds like that popping candy rocks in your mouth. 2nd verse only
Holiest Dreams Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 Also, yeah the mixing issues people have (and yes I’ve had some issues with it myself on various TVs) is just a difference in equipment and industry standards. Vocals tend to be more forward in the mix these days than 10 years ago, so that’s why it sounds different. Some people like it and some don’t… it just depends on the song as well.
Cleanromantic Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Holiest Dreams said: Oh I wish I hadn’t heard it because girl… BUT like I said, I definitely don’t hear the buzzing/clicking throughout the whole album like audiophiles have claimed. I don’t use high end headphones or anything, so maybe that’s it. Or I just can’t hear the frequencies they’re talking about. Like, I believe them, because these glitches can and do happen with music releases (see their Lana example)… but it’s just as well I don’t hear anything besides that one cause I’d be damned if my enjoyment was hindered by some clicking noises maybe being poor has its advantages after all 1
Bosque Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) Jack Antonoffussy and Taylor really put the entirety of their combined Gold Rushussy into IION And did you think I didn't see you? There were flashin' lights At least I had the decency To keep my nights out of sight Only rumors 'bout my hips and thighs And my whispered sighs Edited October 31, 2023 by Dephira 1
messybottom Posted October 31, 2023 Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Holiest Dreams said: Oh I wish I hadn’t heard it because girl… BUT like I said, I definitely don’t hear the buzzing/clicking throughout the whole album like audiophiles have claimed. I don’t use high end headphones or anything, so maybe that’s it. Or I just can’t hear the frequencies they’re talking about. Like, I believe them, because these glitches can and do happen with music releases (see their Lana example)… but it’s just as well I don’t hear anything besides that one cause I’d be damned if my enjoyment was hindered by some clicking noises the more I listen, the more I start to convince myself that those tiny imperfections are giving the songs "character"
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