album Taylor Swift - '1989 (Taylor's Version)'

[TaggedGalaxy]

Clean is slightly more listenable now but still bottom 5 on the album

 

[highwind44029]

New Romantics will always be THAT bop.

 

HEARTBREAK IS THE NATIONAL ANTHEM

 

 

WE SING IT PROUDLY

 

 

[Badgalbriel]

10 minutes ago, liquiddiamonds said:

The Vault tracks were never finished products in their era. She has rewritten them. Even for the features. How would she make Nothing New fit Phoebe Bridgers’ voice when Phoebe wasn’t even a thing back then. I don’t think Taylor would waste Max Martin’s hours with half baked demos. They had leftovers that became the original deluxe tracks. Maybe **** and others were just Taylor and her guitar or lyrics written down from around that time and she reworked them with the Midnights sonic headspace

That's the obvious answer to those stupid claims that the vault tracks are recent. Yeah bi*ch, their production is new. Their lyrics are not. 

[By the Water]

1 minute ago, Cloröx said:

People blaming Jack for almost everything but at the same time stan hard on songs that are actually produced by him. Makes it makes sense, worms for the brain

 

The amount of “Jack better not touch reputation TV” tweets I’ve seen

 

[Timeless]

3 minutes ago, LiamVillain said:

she won't promote the album huh? 

no music video, no concert, no talkshow, no performance 
 

I mean, there are no obvious hits in the vault. What is she going to promote? 

[Ariel]

Album falls a bit flat in some places but surprisingly after all the posts here, NR sounds fine to me.

[TayDuaStan]

What i don’t get is why Shellback only produced Wildest Dreams TV when it’s clearly there were a lot harder songs to produce on the album (Style, New Romantics) which she botched with Chris Rowe. I think she firstly recorded WDTV back when she did Red TV and then when she did the rest of the 1989TV (most likely in 2022) he wasn’t available anymore, and neither was Elvira (her absence was also felt because she did quite a nice job on RED TV on the Max/Shellback songs)

Edited October 27, 2023 by TayDuaStan

[LiamVillain]

Just now, Timeless said:

I mean, there are no obvious hits in the vault. What is she going to promote? 

I can see you was not a hit either

[liquiddiamonds]

2 minutes ago, Itsaliability said:

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (and inform me on the matter), but doesn't Scott already know about the existence of these demos? As the label was paying for studio time with producers, and Taylor couldn't legally hide anything from them, regardless of what was shelved or not? Or could Taylor just not submit to the label what she didn't deem as worth it? Cuz if it's the first option then he wouldve already run to the media and burn her at the stake trying to ruin her-owning my old work purpose.

They only own the recordings from those sessions. As a credited songwriter and performer Taylor can rework them as she wants with whatever producer she feels like it, since nothing is coming from those sessions

[Cloröx]

2 minutes ago, By the Water said:

The amount of “Jack better not touch reputation TV” tweets I’ve seen

 

We need his holy touch, OJH has to deal with it

 

[Timeless]

Just now, LiamVillain said:

I can see you was not a hit either

I Can See You is more of a hit than any of the 1989 vaults actually 

[Burqa]

17 minutes ago, Timeless said:

Wildest Dreams TV was recorded in 2021 so I assume most of the album was also recorded then as well. 

and when do you think midnights was recorded? the photoshoot was done in february

[liquiddiamonds]

1 minute ago, LiamVillain said:

I can see you was not a hit either

I can see you deserved better, but I still catch it on radio sometimes. It’s her Arctic Monkeys serve. It would’ve been a collapse in the OG Speak Now era

[TaylenaStan]

1 minute ago, TayDuaStan said:

What i don’t get is why Shellback only produced Wildest Dreams TV when it’s clearly there were a lot harder songs to produce on the album (Style, New Romantics) which she botched with Chris Rowe. I think she firstly recorded WDTV back when she did Red TV and then when she did the rest of the 1989TV (most likely in 2022) he wasn’t available anymore, and neither was Elvira (her absence was also felt because she did quite a nice job on RED TV)

Shellback ONLY being on Wildest Dreams (TV) .. Its really not surprising that Wildest Dreams is the best rerecorded Max song
Surprisingly Rowe did a great job on All You Had To Do Was Stay (TV) tho 

[Monster Queen]

I can't believe nobody here is dragging ChrisXtina Row or whatever his name is 

He is totally trash, almost everything he touched since Red TV are TRASH 

Jack is godlike compared to him

He need to go, but in reality he will completely ruin IDSB (imagine that latatata part) and DBM

What a shame, literally 

[Burqa]

she should’ve hired whoever worked on the very first night to do style and ayhtdws

[Braz]

The Max Martin songs are all kinda ruined, why would she replace a pop mastermind on her biggest pop record? Make it make sense... 

[ahauntingnearu]

6 minutes ago, Itsaliability said:

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong (and inform me on the matter), but doesn't Scott already know about the existence of these demos? As the label was paying for studio time with producers, and Taylor couldn't legally hide anything from them, regardless of what was shelved or not? Or could Taylor just not submit to the label what she didn't deem as worth it? Cuz if it's the first option then he wouldve already run to the media and burn her at the stake trying to ruin her-owning my old work purpose.

I'm sure - and like I said, I'm not denying or doubting these existed back then; in fact I know they did Lol I'm just saying it's interesting watching how her writing - specifically for her voice - changed over time. Melodically and register-wise, the first four albums were richer in melody and higher in pitch; then the poop albums started having much more monotonous melodies and she started going lower in her register, specifically with rep.

 

From what I can remember anyway; I'd have to think on it more - and more deeply, too.

[Hunter_13]

 

[Timeless]

Just now, Burqa said:

and when do you think midnights was recorded? the photoshoot was done in february

The album artwork being shot in February doesn't mean the album was finished in February. If that was the case, we would've gotten Midnights much earlier in the year. 

[TaggedGalaxy]

1 minute ago, Braz said:

The Max Martin songs are all kinda ruined, why would she replace a pop mastermind on her biggest pop record? Make it make sense... 

Miss Billionaire didn't want to pay his fees

 

[Komet]

Has Cleansus been sent to the radios and/or TTH yet?

 

 

[LiamVillain]

Rank	Song
1	Clean TV
2	Say Don't Go FTV
3	This Love TV
4	Wildest Dreams TV
5	All You Had To Do Was Stay TV
6	You Are In Love TV
7	New Romantics TV
8	Is It Over Now? FTV
9	I Know Places TV
10	I Wish You Would TV
11	Out Of The Woods TV
12	Blank Space TV
13	Shake It Off TV
14	Welcome To New York TV
15	How You Get The Girl TV
16	Wonderland TV
17	****! FTV
18	Now That We Don't Talk FTV
19	Suburban Legends FTV
20	Bad Blood TV
21	Style TV

[liquiddiamonds]

1 minute ago, Timeless said:

The album artwork being shot in February doesn't mean the album was finished in February. If that was the case, we would've gotten Midnights much earlier in the year. 

I think it’s no far off February, because it takes time to produce vinyls and Midnights had that ready to go. Usually a 6 months window for production

[Catch22]

1 minute ago, Timeless said:

The album artwork being shot in February doesn't mean the album was finished in February. If that was the case, we would've gotten Midnights much earlier in the year. 

It was finished in April or May 2022, one of the insiders confirmed this.