album Taylor Swift - '1989 (Taylor's Version)'

[dyktatuob]

1 minute ago, Pop_Data said:

Some of the Speak Now vault songs don’t fit the album theme at all so I’m curious if those songs are really Speak Now rejects.

 

It’s also a little worrisome that she hasn’t been specific on the vault songs on why they were left out, who was the intended feature artist back then, who has has the original demo, etc. For example was Nothing New a feature? Who was the feature? Etc a woman in her early 20’s writing about feeling old is very suspicious lol 

nothing new was solo. someone has the solo demo 

 

 

 

as for speak now, most the vault tracks we knew about because of inner circle 

[Michael196]

1 minute ago, dyktatuob said:

tay was still in her nice girl era during 1989 she would never tbh it's probably lust! 

 

 

****! is giving YNTCD's sister i fear 

it's giving I did something tragic...

[vale9001]

you're losing me is a deluxe track from midnights. What's the issue about when she wrote it?. She never said when she wrote it. Writing a new track to release it as a deluxe of an already published album it's a normal thing. 

 

 

[LiamVillain]

1 minute ago, Pop_Data said:

Some of the Speak Now vault songs don’t fit the album theme at all so I’m curious if those songs are really Speak Now rejects.

 

It’s also a little worrisome that she hasn’t been specific on the vault songs on why they were left out, who was the intended feature artist back then, who has has the original demo, etc. For example was Nothing New a feature? Who was the feature? Etc a woman in her early 20’s writing about feeling old is very suspicious lol 

only Run (original) had the feature artist who was Ed

i read some descriptions of nothing new in her diary or on taylor inner circle tho

[Illuminati]

2 minutes ago, Pop_Data said:

Some of the Speak Now vault songs don’t fit the album theme at all so I’m curious if those songs are really Speak Now rejects.

 

It’s also a little worrisome that she hasn’t been specific on the vault songs on why they were left out, who was the intended feature artist back then, who has has the original demo, etc. For example was Nothing New a feature? Who was the feature? Etc a woman in her early 20’s writing about feeling old is very suspicious lol 

The same album had The Lucky One, so I could see her writing a couple of songs from that perspective and then keeping the better one for the original release.

[Peak Now]

2 minutes ago, Pop_Data said:

Some of the Speak Now vault songs don’t fit the album theme at all so I’m curious if those songs are really Speak Now rejects.

 

It’s also a little worrisome that she hasn’t been specific on the vault songs on why they were left out, who was the intended feature artist back then, who has has the original demo, etc. For example was Nothing New a feature? Who was the feature? Etc a woman in her early 20’s writing about feeling old is very suspicious lol 

What songs do you think not fit the album theme? If you're thinking I Can See You it's literally a marginally more explicit version of Sparks Fly.

 

Nothing New wasn't a feature, but she invited someone on it a la That's When and You All Over Me (the l worded demos don't have anyone else). I doubt any of the vault tracks with features were intended as features lol.

 

And uh, wasn't Britney 19 when she released Lucky? Even Taylor had The Lucky One on Red (2012) and that has been there for a decade now.

[Pop_Data]

4 minutes ago, TaylorNation said:

pretty sure the vault tracks are legitimate old tracks, but ATW10 and You’re Losing Me are definitely new  

Are you referring to You All Over Me? Which features Maren Morris who not an artist in 2008. This is what I mean on who was the intended feature artist back in 2008? Did the original have a feature? It would be cool if she was more transparent about the creation of vault songs than besides “I can’t believe they were left out.” 

[Peak Now]

You All Over Me demo l worded ages ago lmao, you can easily find it on every Taylor unreleased compilation ever. It's from 2005 I believe

[The Man Who]

The thought of hearing I Know Places with new vocals and production is making me want to queef! 

[vale9001]

15 minutes ago, Pop_Data said:

Some of the Speak Now vault songs don’t fit the album theme at all so I’m curious if those songs are really Speak Now rejects.

 

It’s also a little worrisome that she hasn’t been specific on the vault songs on why they were left out, who was the intended feature artist back then, who has has the original demo, etc. For example was Nothing New a feature? Who was the feature? Etc a woman in her early 20’s writing about feeling old is very suspicious lol 

so maybe she rejected them cause didn't fit the "speak now" theme she decided to give to it at some point. Right?  

 

 

people knew about a rejected track called nothing new from years . A demo of I bet you think about me was online too years ago. We know babe e better man were already written. As she wrote two songs with Sheeran but only one was in the album.

 

No scandal it's gonna happening. 

 

Edited September 20, 2023 by vale9001

[Lemon]

4 minutes ago, Pop_Data said:

Are you referring to You All Over Me? Which features Maren Morris who not an artist in 2008. This is what I mean on who was the intended feature artist back in 2008? Did the original have a feature? It would be cool if she was more transparent about the creation of vault songs than besides “I can’t believe they were left out.” 

What more do you need to know? How having more information on these vault songs is of any substantial contribution when we already know around what time they have been written? 
I mean, going by this, we can also require background information regarding every song she has put out then. 

[Tusk]

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[TaylorNation]

15 minutes ago, LiamVillain said:

it's not "bonus track"?

pretty sure it was released as (From The Vault)

 

5 minutes ago, Pop_Data said:

Are you referring to You All Over Me? Which features Maren Morris who not an artist in 2008. This is what I mean on who was the intended feature artist back in 2008? Did the original have a feature? It would be cool if she was more transparent about the creation of vault songs than besides “I can’t believe they were left out.” 

okay but having a featured artist who wasn’t around back then =\= lying about them being old songs.

 

I agree that solo versions would have been better but imo I don’t see the issue with it 

[PaloSanto]

1 minute ago, Pop_Data said:

Are you referring to You All Over Me? Which features Maren Morris who not an artist in 2008. This is what I mean on who was the intended feature artist back in 2008? Did the original have a feature? It would be cool if she was more transparent about the creation of vault songs than besides “I can’t believe they were left out.” 

Except its very obvious the feature is a novelty. Nothing New, Electric Touch, You All Over Me... all were solo tracks originally. The feature was added on the rerecordings as a novelty.

 

Maren was supportive of the process back in FearlessTV and did bg vocals on a song. Taylor herself thanked her onstage at the Eras Tour and said it couldve been really embarrassing for Maren to be involved woth FTV had the rerecordings been a flop. Whichs is true. Now Taylor knows the rerecordings wont flop and is adding the features as a treat.

 

Phoebe is on NN cause she's the new shiny songwriter like Taylor was back then. FOB and Hayley are on SNTV cause they were the music she was listening to the most during that era.

 

Personally I'd much rather have all the vault tracks as solo songs but the features so far don't seem desingenuous to me.

[LiamVillain]

5 minutes ago, Pop_Data said:

Are you referring to You All Over Me? Which features Maren Morris who not an artist in 2008. This is what I mean on who was the intended feature artist back in 2008? Did the original have a feature? It would be cool if she was more transparent about the creation of vault songs than besides “I can’t believe they were left out.” 

no 

the song (solo/no feature) was written in 2005-2006 and she had Maren as background vocalist on FTV version 

[Just a Gay on ATRL]

So where’s the announcement 

[Burqa]

18 minutes ago, Pop_Data said:

Etc a woman in her early 20’s writing about feeling old is very suspicious lol 

 

mind you this was in 2012

[vale9001]

 

https://x.com/YSLONIKA/status/1704466468811710557?s=20

 

 

please 

[LiamVillain]

2 minutes ago, vale9001 said:

 

https://x.com/YSLONIKA/status/1704466468811710557?s=20

 

 

please 

[siegetheday]

I assume she'll post the back cover today at the same time she teased the vault yesterday? 

[Taylena]

Even if there's a Nicki feature we won't stream it. I hope their stans know that lol 

[LiamVillain]

8 minutes ago, siegetheday said:

I assume she'll post the back cover today at the same time she teased the vault yesterday? 

at 11AM? 

in 3 hours?

taylornation being so active, I think it's coming in less than an hour

[Squall]

5 minutes ago, Taylena said:

Even if there's a Nicki feature we won't stream it. I hope their stans know that lol 

Exactly  

[Cruel Summer]

20 minutes ago, Pop_Data said:

Some of the Speak Now vault songs don’t fit the album theme at all so I’m curious if those songs are really Speak Now rejects.

 

It’s also a little worrisome that she hasn’t been specific on the vault songs on why they were left out, who was the intended feature artist back then, who has has the original demo, etc. For example was Nothing New a feature? Who was the feature? Etc a woman in her early 20’s writing about feeling old is very suspicious lol 

Why is that worrisome?

 

For most of them, we can tell why it was left off. Forever Winter and Nothing New were probably because she or her label didn’t think it would resonate with her listeners (for very different reasons between the two), Better Man we know she left off the album in favor of All Too Well, some of the Fearless vault tracks were honestly just not as good as the parent album, I Can See You was probably too forward for her image at the time, Castles Crumbling was likely left off for similar reasons to Nothing New, Run was probably left off because they preferred EHC as the only Ed collab on the same album, etc.

 

Nothing New also covers basically the same theme as Castles Crumbling, which was written year earlier. I think it’s reasonable to be worried about your future at that age, especially after seeing ascendant popularity during Fearless and then watching that wane a bit in the Speak Now era, during/after which she would have written the song.

 

As for why they don’t sound like the parent album sometimes, she’s made intentional choices to allow new production on the vault tracks. Don’t You, for example, takes on a lot of Jack’s typical production style, which didn’t really even exist at the time of Fearless. For other songs, like Better Man, she keeps the genre and style the same but fleshes out the instrumentation, because it just sounds best as a country song. For the vault songs, it seems like she’s less concerned with forcing the song to fit the album just because she wrote it at the same time and more concerned with getting the song right.

[k.money]

I was gonna say that I hope there would be some sort of BP collab, but with their disbandment/hiatus coming up, that doesn't seem likely.