news Israel passes new "sexual terrorism" law

[Jjang]

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Israeli sex crime law condemned for giving Jews lesser punishment for rape

Bipartisan bill doubles penalties for Palestinians convicted of sexual assault or harassment if authorities deem there was a 'nationalistic' motive.

 

Israel's parliament on Sunday passed a law that has been condemned for allowing Jewish Israelis to have a lesser punishment for rape, sexual assault and sexual harassment than Palestinian citizens. The "sexual terrorism" law, which was passed by 39 MPs to seven, directly targets Palestinian citizens of Israel who have sexually assaulted or harassed Jewish women if authorities deem the motive as "nationalistic". Penalties can now be doubled for convicted Palestinians, with the previous maximum penalty standing at 16 years.

 

full article: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-sex-crime-law-jews-lesser-punishment-condemned 

Edited August 5, 2023 by Jjang

[blown away]

The ****? I have no words for this... This wrong on so many levels.

[Solaria]

Oh great! Another law that allows the Israeli government to turn down a blind eye on the crimes of it’s citizens. Are we surprised?

[brazil]

Honestly, why is Russian sanctioned but Israel isnt? Their settlements and military incursions into Palestinian territory warrant sanctions as well.

[Devin]

Disappointed but not surprised. 

[Mean Trees]

12 minutes ago, brazil said:

Honestly, why is Russian sanctioned but Israel isnt? Their settlements and military incursions into Palestinian territory warrant sanctions as well.

Israel is strategically important to the United States. ''International'' ''Law'' is all about US interests and its hypocrisies.

[Bartender]

what the ****

[State of Grace.]

The thread report  

 

Promoting their racist agenda on the backs of sexual assault victims is absolutely disgusting but I wish I was shocked. It's literally giving Jim Crow laws where black people were getting harsher punishments than white people for the same crimes.

There will be no accountability for IOF and settlers that sexually harass and molest Palestinian children and women of course. 🤡

[Jjang]

1 hour ago, brazil said:

Honestly, why is Russian sanctioned but Israel isnt? Their settlements and military incursions into Palestinian territory warrant sanctions as well.

careful they will call you antisemitic in 3,2,1… 

[Selaphiel]

Imagine being mad at a law that harshly punishes rapists 💀  The law applies equally to both Jews and Arabs.

 

[Selaphiel]

31 minutes ago, State of Grace. said:

The thread report  

 

Promoting their racist agenda on the backs of sexual assault victims is absolutely disgusting but I wish I was shocked. It's literally giving Jim Crow laws where black people were getting harsher punishments than white people for the same crimes.

 

There will be no accountability for IOF and settlers that sexually harass and molest Palestinian children and women of course. 🤡

Because this thread is literally fake news. Under this law, a rapist will face a harsher punishment if the assault was committed for political reasons, regardless of ethnicity or religion. So an Arab man who assaults a Jewish woman and a Jewish man who assaults an Arab woman for nationalistic reasons would face the same punishment. What the article is implying is that that Arabs disproportionately rape Jews compared to the other way around, and that’s a horrible thing to say.

 

 

Edited August 5, 2023 by Selaphiel

[Communion]

1 hour ago, brazil said:

Honestly, why is Russian sanctioned but Israel isnt? Their settlements and military incursions into Palestinian territory warrant sanctions as well.

Anyone who can't see that  Ukraine = Palestine and Russia = Israel is basically a white supremacist at this  point.

[Jjang]

3 minutes ago, Selaphiel said:

Because this thread is literally fake news. Under this law, a rapist will face a harsher punishment if the assault was committed for political reasons, regardless of ethnicity or religion. So an Arab man who assaults a Jewish woman and a Jewish man who assaults an Arab woman for nationalistic reasons would face the same punishment. What the article is implying is that that Arabs disproportionately rape Jews compared to the other way around, and that’s a horrible thing to say.

 

 

the amount of brain cells I lost reading this

[Selaphiel]

33 minutes ago, Jjang said:

careful they will call you antisemitic in 3,2,1… 

People who single out Israel and disproportionately criticize the only Jewish country compared to other countries tend to be antisemitic, yes.

[Jjang]

the law clearly stating that Palestinian raping a Jewish person is classified as “national security” and hence deserves harsher punishment than a Jew committing the same act because then it’s only classified as a “criminal act” or whatnot 

 

the same members now threatening to pass a law to take away citizenships and deport Palestinians (from their own homeland that Israelis colonized, mind you) for committing the same crime Jews commit routinely 

 

Zionists on ATRL: oh wow, Israel taking another step towards full equality 

 

7 minutes ago, Selaphiel said:

People who single out Israel and disproportionately criticize the only Jewish country compared to other countries tend to be antisemitic, yes.

go blow a cactus 

Edited August 5, 2023 by Jjang

[Dialamba]

Can we ban Israel supporters here  

[Jjang]

Just now, Dialamba said:

Can we ban Israel supporters here  

seriously. literally contemporary fascists. it’s gonna be incredible to witness how history will eventually serve justice and how unkindly everyone will remember them when moral clarity is achieved in the future. 

[Selaphiel]

8 minutes ago, Dialamba said:

Can we ban Israel supporters here  

Do you want just Israelis to banned or also people from other Middle Eastern countries (which all have MUCH worse human rights records than Israel)?

 

hmm

[Communion]

45 minutes ago, Selaphiel said:

Because this thread is literally fake news. Under this law, a rapist will face a harsher punishment if the assault was committed for political reasons, regardless of ethnicity or religion. So an Arab man who assaults a Jewish woman and a Jewish man who assaults an Arab woman for nationalistic reasons would face the same punishment. What the article is implying is that that Arabs disproportionately rape Jews compared to the other way around, and that’s a horrible thing to say.

 

 

Zionism is a form of nationalism. Will every rape committed by a Zionist be treated as sexual terrorism? If no, then how do you explain the likely reality that teens catcalling a woman - the example given by parliament - should also be seen as "nationalist terrorism experienced by Israeli women" and the up-charge of "nationalism" will be applied if they can simply find evidence of the Palestinian charged holding the (correct) view that Israel is an apartheid state?  

 

If the belief Israel shouldn't exist is nationalism, how is the belief it should exist not nationalism?

Edited August 5, 2023 by Communion

[Jjang]

21 minutes ago, Selaphiel said:

Do you want just Israelis to banned or also people from other Middle Eastern countries (which all have MUCH worse human rights records than Israel)?

 

hmm

“apartheid, military occupation, segregation, colonization and colonial rules, land theft and the halting of fundamental human rights for 10+ million Palestinians (male, female, cis, non binary, straight gay and bi) is ok because other countries are homophobic and sexist” 

 

also, I don’t see members from other middle eastern countries here defending their homophobic laws etc the way you defend Israeli policies (literally celebrating an apartheid rule as some sort of beacon of equality in this very thread) 

 

we see you for what you are and no amount of empty whataboutism is gonna serve you as a free get away from jail card. 

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[Selaphiel]

2 minutes ago, Communion said:

Zionism is a form of nationalism. Will every rape committed by a Zionist be treated as sexual terrorism? If no, then how do you explain the likely reality that teens catcalling a woman - the example given by parliament - should also be seen as "nationalist terrorism experienced by Israeli women" and the up-charge of "nationalism" will be applied if they can simply find evidence of the Palestinian charged holding the (correct) view that Israel is an apartheid state?  

 

If the belief Israel shouldn't exist is nationalism, how is the believe it should exist not nationalism?

Zionism may be a form of nationalism, but it is also an indigenous liberation movement. The belief that Israel shouldn’t exist is imperialism, because you’re denying an indigenous people the right to live in their homeland.

[Communion]

22 minutes ago, Selaphiel said:

Do you want just Israelis to banned or also people from other Middle Eastern countries (which all have MUCH worse human rights records than Israel)?

 

hmm

Most people posting from homophobic Middle Eastern countries you seem to be referencing are gay minorities oppressed by anti-LGBT laws and thus do not defend the laws that they suffer under.

 

From the implication of your post, if you were posting from Israel, you'd be posting as a settler illegally occupying others' land and boasting about how great it is other ethnicities have been pushed out of the country due to your ethno-state.

 

How many Russian users are allowed to freely post that Ukrainians deserve to be subjugated?

What would be the reaction if a Han Chinese member said all Uyghurs are low income thugs who just cause problems?

 

You're the modern-day equivalent of if an American settler was proudly boasting smallpox did the native people a favor.

[Communion]

4 minutes ago, Selaphiel said:

Zionism may be a form of nationalism

I'm glad you agree. It should be unequivocal that ethnicity quotas to maintain an ethno-state are fascist. 

[Jjang]

1 minute ago, Selaphiel said:

Zionism may be a form of nationalism, but it is also an indigenous liberation movement. The belief that Israel shouldn’t exist is imperialism, because you’re denying an indigenous people the right to live in their homeland.

an ancient kingdom =/= a militarized apartheid state that appropriated the name of that kingdom. 

 

I’m not gonna get into the rabbit hole of discussing the context of indignity with you because I know you use it as a dishonest distraction tactic so I’ll continue the statement for you: Zionism is the belief that Jewish people should build their homeland on top of another indigenous community’s graves and human rights. That’s the full context. hence why Zionism manifests in military occupation in violation of international law at the expense of Palestinian land, hence why Zionism manifests in apartheid rules to keep one population above the other, hence why Zionism manifests in refusing Palestinians right of return in direct violation of international law, hence why Zionism manifests in adapting colonial Britains 1940s colonial laws as collective punishment against Palestinians to this very day, hence why Zionism manifests in continuous ethnic cleansing projects that is seemingly endless. 

 

but cute that you think you fooled anyone. 

[Selaphiel]

8 minutes ago, Communion said:

Most people posting from homophobic Middle Eastern countries you seem to be referencing are gay minorities oppressed by anti-LGBT laws and thus do not defend the laws that they suffer under.

 

From the implication of your post, if you were posting from Israel, you'd be posting as a settler illegally occupying others' land and boasting about how great it is other ethnicities have been pushed out of the country due to your ethno-state.

 

How many Russian users are allowed to freely post that Ukrainians deserve to be subjugated?

What would be the reaction if a Han Chinese member said all Uyghurs are low income thugs who just cause problems?

 

You're the modern-day equivalent of if an American settler was proudly boasting smallpox did the native people a favor.

From the implication of your post, you seem to consider all of Israel proper as ‘occupied land’ and not just the West Bank, and that all Israeli citizens (majority of whom descend from Holocaust survivors and Jews expelled from Muslim countries) as ‘settlers’. This is extremely problematic, because since you consider armed resistance a right, you’re basically justifying violence against all Israelis.