poll Most successful 8th album: Anti x folklore x Music?

[istan4badgalriri]

1 hour ago, Artistofthedecade said:

Objectively 

 

Music - 13,963,000 (+110)

Folklore - 10,838,000 (+9,790)

Anti - 10,593,000 (+3,040)

 

 

Lemme guess… chartmasters.org ?

[istan4badgalriri]

56 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

"objectively" when there's not a single objective metric where Anti is ahead of folklore  folklore has already overtaken Anti's total worldwide units and is STILL top 10 on the Billboard 200. You are the one who needs to be serious 

 

55 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said:

Objectively Anti has less units than Folklore and even less units if subtract US which you all consider Taylor's biggest market

 

44 minutes ago, Raspberries said:

folklore has already moved more units WW than ANTI despite coming out 4.5 years later  In what reality are you being objective?

Shall we compare the global certified units ladies ?

[The Music Industry]

42 minutes ago, Love Again said:

@The Music Industry you need to accept that Taylor can’t have all her albums be the most succesful of all time. I know that that is a hard concept for you to grasp since you have no personality aside from shoving Taylor’s numbers down everyone throats but the sooner you accept it the better. You look delusional downvoting anyone who doesnt kiss your faves ass 

? The meltdown because I disagreed with your post 

 

You quoted a post using data to prove folklore is bigger and then just basically replied "I don't care it's not bigger end of story". Like... Why are you so gagged that people are using actual facts and objective metrics to give a sensible answer to the question the OP asked? "No personality aside from shoving Taylor's numbers" when the OP is quite literally asking which album is bigger. What do you want us to use? Vibes? Personal feelings? Would you like that? 

[The Music Industry]

Just now, istan4badgalriri said:

Shall we compare the global certified units ladies ?

And why would we do that when only a handful of countries actually have certifications, and more often than not they are not automatic/not updated?  Simply using certifications would paint an obvious inaccurate picture, depicting only partial out-of-date units from only a selected few markets around the globe. Be so for real 

[istan4badgalriri]

Certified units (units that are, you know… actually official)

 

Anti - 7,375m (1,375m outside the US)

folklore - 2,518m (518m outside the US)

 

💀 but I thought…? 

[Solaria]

7 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

? The meltdown because I disagreed with your post 

 

You quoted a post using data to prove folklore is bigger and then just basically replied "I don't care it's not bigger end of story". Like... Why are you so gagged that people are using actual facts and objective metrics to give a sensible answer to the question the OP asked? "No personality aside from shoving Taylor's numbers" when the OP is quite literally asking which album is bigger. What do you want us to use? Vibes? Personal feelings? Would you like that? 

Objective metrics

Chartmasters

 

11

Music

10,700,000

1,723,000

1,452,000 (4,840,000)

201,000 (1,340,000)

232,000 (07/23/23)

Av.: 90 LD: 110

13,963,000

 

9

Folklore

2,951,000

1,142,000

9,000 (30,000)

82,000 (550,000)

6,700,000 (07/23/23)

Av.: 8,930 LD: 9,790

10,838,000

 

 

There you go! 

[The Music Industry]

Just now, istan4badgalriri said:

Certified units (units that are, you know… actually official)

 

Anti - 7,375m (1,375m outside the US)

folklore - 2,518m (518m outside the US)

 

💀 but I thought…? 

folklore moved 4,660,000 units based solely on Billboard, and is still gaining rapidly every single week. Do you not realize how cretinous it sounds to then go ahead and argue that we should use out-of-date certifications where folklore's worldwide total is barely half of its actual, factual, US units?  Surely you can find something better and less botched to push for your fav's album? 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Love Again said:

Objective metrics

Chartmasters

 

11

Music

10,700,000

1,723,000

1,452,000 (4,840,000)

201,000 (1,340,000)

232,000 (07/23/23)

Av.: 90 LD: 110

13,963,000

 

9

Folklore

2,951,000

1,142,000

9,000 (30,000)

82,000 (550,000)

6,700,000 (07/23/23)

Av.: 8,930 LD: 9,790

10,838,000

 

 

There you go! 

Why yes, this objective metric is quite literally showing you that in less than a year, Folklore, a 3 year-old album, will have moved more global units already than Music, a 23 year-old album. Thanks for pointing it out! 

[FolkLover1989]

12 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said:

 

 

Shall we compare the global certified units ladies ?

 

9 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

And why would we do that when only a handful of countries actually have certifications, and more often than not they are not automatic/not updated?  Simply using certifications would paint an obvious inaccurate picture, depicting only partial out-of-date units from only a selected few markets around the globe. Be so for real 

I gave them benefit of doubt cause they don't care about chartmasters

 

But @istan4badgalriri you do care about official charts no

 

I checked and UWC which only tracks official charts. Folklore has been making Top 40 every year and Anti only did one year 

[FolkLover1989]

9 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said:

Certified units (units that are, you know… actually official)

 

Anti - 7,375m (1,375m outside the US)

folklore - 2,518m (518m outside the US)

 

💀 but I thought…? 

I checked official charts for you around the world 

 

And guess what Folklore won even without China and many Asian countries which you all don't count

[Solaria]

Just now, The Music Industry said:

Why yes, this objective metric is quite literally showing you that in less than a year, Folklore, a 3 year-old album, will have moved more global units already than Music, a 23 year-old album. Thanks for pointing it out! 

Yes. But as of right now. Music is bigger! Thanks. You lost, like you always do  salty tears yes yes

[The Music Industry]

Just now, Love Again said:

Yes. But as of right now. Music is bigger! Thanks. You lost, like you always do  salty tears yes yes

? Are you ok sis 

[ImsoLOUD]

ANTI >>>>>>>

[Hunter_13]

folklore 

[Solaria]

1 minute ago, The Music Industry said:

? Are you ok sis 

Stream Taylord's best song

 

 

[The Music Industry]

2 minutes ago, Love Again said:

Stream Taylord's best song

 

 

That's not august or State Of Grace. Time to book an ear appointment sis! 

[FolkLover1989]

Mediatraffic that only counts official charts around the world 

 

Anti  2016 : 1.46m

2017: NA

2018: NA

2019: NA

2020:NA

 

 

Folklore 2020: 3.18m

 2021 : 1.54m

 2022: 1.6m

 

@istan4badgalriri hope this helps. Ig it's just every metric and not just Swifties making things up

 

 

[FolkLover1989]

Considering Taylor is bigger in Asia where official charts are not there for many countries and despite that it did better than Anti on UWC 

 

Demn 

[tshwark]

Music for sure, not only sold more but it had an amazing 1 2 3 punch.

[The Music Industry]

Just now, FolkLover1989 said:

Considering Taylor is bigger in Asia where official charts are not there for many countries and despite that it did better than Anti on UWC 

 

Demn 

Right. And most Asian countries don't have music certifications. By limiting ourselves to certifications, not only are we using out-of-date stats, but we're also excluding much of the biggest continent of Earth where more than half of the population lives. Like... 

[FolkLover1989]

1 minute ago, The Music Industry said:

Right. And most Asian countries don't have music certifications. By limiting ourselves to certifications, not only are we using out-of-date stats, but we're also excluding much of the biggest continent of Earth where more than half of the population lives. Like... 

Soon they will start saying IFPI is wrong cause where are certifications

[airplane]

anti: more streams across every platform, more sales, bigger and more hits (work, needed me, lotb (something taylor hasn’t achieved on an album since 2014))

 

 

[airplane]

8 minutes ago, The Music Industry said:

Right. And most Asian countries don't have music certifications. By limiting ourselves to certifications, not only are we using out-of-date stats, but we're also excluding much of the biggest continent of Earth where more than half of the population lives. Like... 

It’s not our problem those countries don’t have certifications  Maybe when they do, they can be part of the conversation. Certifications are the only legitimate way to validate and verify music sales.

Edited July 25, 2023 by airplane

[Axelios]

1 minute ago, airplane said:

anti: more streams across every platform, more sales

 

Proof? Folklore outperformed Anti globally

[ninasayers]

1 hour ago, wastedpotential said:

but Cardigan (1.7M) does more streams than LOTB (600k), Needed Me (450k), Work (300k), and KIB (250k) on Spotify every day combined, so those big hits have obviously not lasted.

Those songs do more streams most days (you literally chose Monday numbers), and comparing anyone's numbers to Taylor's rn is unfair lol. LOTB and Needed Me have great recurrents, imagine saying they "haven't lasted". 

[The Music Industry]

Just now, airplane said:

It’s not our problem those countries don’t have certifications 

And it's not our problem y'all have to rely on outdated certifications that only capture partial units from a selected few countries instead of relying on actual global numbers