Good Vibes Festival in Malaysia Cancelled Because of The 1975

[Born to Run]

7 minutes ago, Simple said:

literally nothing will change for the LGBT+ scene there

Good, then stop blaming Matty Healy.

 

8 minutes ago, Simple said:

some people just want to have and not go to concerts for statements and politics. get out of your bubbles and see the real world not the stan ATRL world 

That's not a bubble? *plays Chained to the Rhythm*

[Cloröx]

Just now, Born to Run said:

Good, then stop blaming Matty Healy.

 

That's not a bubble? *plays Chained to the Rhythm*

Do you still live in China, and fight for queer community there?

[réveuse]

13 minutes ago, Simple said:

People came to the festival to have fun and enjoy the music, no one is there to see Matty kiss other guys for “activism”. He ruined it for the citizens and literally nothing will change for the LGBT+ scene there. Stop acting like the government needs celebs to tell them what to do and Matty needs to respect the country that paid him to perform there, if you have issues you could’ve easily issued a statement and rejected their offer. But going there, taking their money and disrespecting them is way too stupid and rude.

 

it’s not always about being “shocking” and provocative, you guys have to understand that some people just want to have and not go to concerts for statements and politics. get out of your bubbles and see the real world not the stan ATRL world 

Exactly! Laws are there in place for you to respect them.

[fais_2311]

28 minutes ago, Cloröx said:

Nah, people will react the same. If those artists are genuine to help queer community here, they should live and join the local activists to educate not a few seconds of performative activism which expose the community to greater harm then leave them to deal with the aftermath. You guys are lucky to deal with more tolerate gov instead of more draconian one who don't hesitate to put you in jail or even execute you, it's totally different situation. 

Yeah. I don’t think people outside our country will understand the current situation in our country which is a Muslim country and how extra careful we had to be. Like you said, they will not hesitate to put us in jail and it will be even worse if the extremist take control of our country. 

[Born to Run]

1 minute ago, Cloröx said:

Do you still live in China, and fight for queer community there?

What does that have to do with you and your fellows trying to shift the blame to Matty Healy?

 

For China’s LGBTQ community, safe spaces are becoming harder to find (nbcnews.com)

 

There are no rights in the first place to fight for, I will NOT die for your stupid patriotism and to quote Virginia Woolf: 

 

As a woman I have no country. As a woman I want no country. As a woman, my country is the whole world.

 

You guys trying to silence Matty and everyone "who doesn't understand the situtation" is RIDICULOUS.

 

There's nothing wrong with two men kissing no matter how hard you try to twist it, good bye!

[Born to Run]

7 minutes ago, réveuse said:

Exactly! Laws are there in place for you to respect them.

Stop trolling. Last time I check you claimed to be a black person with a swift avi. 

[réveuse]

3 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

Stop trolling. Last time I check you claimed to be a black person with a swift avi. 

I'm not attempting to troll, this is my personal opinion.

[Cloröx]

1 minute ago, Born to Run said:

What does that have to do with you and your fellows trying to shift the blame to Matty Healy?

 

For China’s LGBTQ community, safe spaces are becoming harder to find (nbcnews.com)

 

There are no rights in the first place to fight for, I will NOT die for your stupid patriotism and to quote Virginia Woolf: 

 

As a woman I have no country. As a woman I want no country. As a woman, my country is the whole world.

 

You guys trying to silence Matty and everyone "who doesn't understand the situtation" is RIDICULOUS.

 

There's nothing wrong with two men kissing no matter how hard you try to twist it, good bye!

People not blaming Matt because of his LGBTQ agenda, it's simply his white savior complex/performative activism that brings more damage instead of benefits. Stop twisting our words. Since the incident there's no words from him nor his band asking how the queer community in Malaysia dealing with the aftermath. 

[Simple]

9 minutes ago, Born to Run said:

Good, then stop blaming Matty Healy.

 

That's not a bubble? *plays Chained to the Rhythm*

There are two things that we need to separate here and people in this thread don’t seem to understand them. 
 

1- the country being homophobic, that’s something the country needs to change by itself, not sure how things are there but if there are elections or things the citizens can do to change the landscape there. They don’t need singers to kiss and f*ck on stage to change laws, that never changes anything

 

2- Matty is being disrespectful and he clearly wants to be on the news and get some publicity, that’s a fact. You go to a country you respect them, It’s very simple, if I go to a homophobic country I won’t kiss my bf in a mosque and then call the country homophobic for kicking me out. I don’t get it it’s a very simple logic ? If you don’t like it just don’t go and issue a statement that way you’ll have more impact 

even Nicki Minaj gets this, when there were rumors that she would perform in Saudi , she simply said I will not go since she doesn’t agree with the country’s laws for women and gays. 

[réveuse]

2 minutes ago, Simple said:

There are two things that we need to separate here and people in this thread don’t seem to understand them. 
 

1- the country being homophobic, that’s something the country needs to change by itself, not sure how things are there but if there are elections or things the citizens can do to change the landscape there. They don’t need singers to kiss and f*ck on stage to change laws, that never changes anything

 

2- Matty is being disrespectful and he clearly wants to be on the news and get some publicity, that’s a fact. You go to a country you respect them, It’s very simple, if I go to a homophobic country I won’t kiss my bf in a mosque and then call the country homophobic for kicking me out. I don’t get it it’s a very simple logic ? If you don’t like it just don’t go and issue a statement that way you’ll have more impact 

even Nicki Minaj gets this, when there were rumors that she would perform in Saudi , she simply said I will not go since she doesn’t agree with the country’s laws for women and gays. 

Thisss!

[Letemtalk]

3 hours ago, Dephira said:

After weeks of dragging Matty for being homophobic, ATRL is now dragging him for being too gay

Matty Healy was mostly being dragged for being racist, including his participation in a racist podcast that included mocking the accents of Asian people. Then he turned around and said he didn't need to apologise to anyone, because he didn't think his jokes affected anyone.

 

Now he goes to a conservative Asian country and instead of talking and listening to the local LGBTQ+ community, he does his piece of performative activism and gets praised by white people on social media, without having to live with the consequences.

[Raptus]

1 hour ago, Cloröx said:

Nah, people will react the same. If those artists are genuine to help queer community here, they should live and join the local activists to educate not a few seconds of performative activism which expose the community to greater harm then leave them to deal with the aftermath. You guys are lucky to deal with more tolerate gov instead of more draconian one who don't hesitate to put you in jail or even execute you, it's totally different situation. 

Western gov  were the same. UK, germany and USA were literally   putting gays in prisons like 50 years ago. Queer comunity fought for what we have now in the west.  Waiting politely for better gov  will get you nowhere. So maybe stop putting head in the sand and do something for queer comunity in your country. 

Edited July 22, 2023 by Raptus

[Vermillion]

3 hours ago, Dephira said:

After weeks of dragging Matty for being homophobic, ATRL is now dragging him for being too gay

Less than half a dozen posters don't speak for the forum either way.

 

Matty Healy is an ambulance chaser outside any forms of LGBT protest. It's hard to accept his sincerity given that context.

 

Calling him out is not the equivalent of kowtowing to the Malaysian government. A broken clock is right twice a day.

[Exzime.]

6 minutes ago, Raptus said:

Western gov  were the same. UK, germany and USA were literally   putting gays in prisons like 50 years ago. Queer comunity fought for what we have now in the west.  Waiting politely for better gov  will get you nowhere. So maybe stop putting head in the sand and do something for queer comunity in your country. 

Countries you mentioned were already practicing secularism 50 years ago. 

[Cloröx]

2 minutes ago, Raptus said:

Western gov  were the same. UK, germany and USA were literally  putting gays in prisons like 50 years ago. Queer comunity fought for what we have now in the west.  Waiting politely for better gov  will get you nowhere. So maybe stop putting head in the sand and do something for queer comunity in your country. 

We are currently in this stage so you should understand why you guys simply can't put us in the same situation as yours right now. Are you trying to blame us for being afraid for real? Like I said earlier, the current gov have started working on queer community to give them more rights, it worked before until the opposition toppled the gov and everything went downhill. Now the opposition will repeat the same thing, weaponize this issue and we are phucked once again. We can't let that happen but Matt simply gives the opposition benefit with narrative prior to the state election. 

[Rep2000]

1 hour ago, réveuse said:

Exactly! Laws are there in place for you to respect them.

Sure thing, Hanna Schmitz.

[thefreak]

13 minutes ago, Raptus said:

Western gov  were the same. UK, germany and USA were literally   putting gays in prisons like 50 years ago. Queer comunity fought for what we have now in the west.  Waiting politely for better gov  will get you nowhere. So maybe stop putting head in the sand and do something for queer comunity in your country. 

Yes and you have proven our point by exactly what you are writing here. It's our fight, not Matty Healy's. And we don't fight the phobia by kissing another person of the same gender in front of everyone and shouting profanity and saying they suck. If anything that gives the homophobes the ammunition to claim that LGBT communities are extremists. What we need is a moderate approach that's acceptable for everyone, and time, just as you said. The UK, Germany and the USA are not Muslim majority and their cultures are vastly different from ours. It's gonna take more time for them to open up.

[Simple]

16 minutes ago, Raptus said:

Western gov  were the same. UK, germany and USA were literally   putting gays in prisons like 50 years ago. Queer comunity fought for what we have now in the west.  Waiting politely for better gov  will get you nowhere. So maybe stop putting head in the sand and do something for queer comunity in your country. 

Exactly the queer community, is Matty a gay Malaysian? 

also the comparison of the LGBTQ+ progress in the west to islamic countries is so embarrassing and clearly shows that you don’t understand how the situation is there

[Born to Run]

6 minutes ago, thefreak said:

If anything that gives the homophobes the ammunition to claim that LGBT communities are extremists. What we need is a moderate approach that's acceptable for everyone, and time, just as you said.

We as gay people, should be nice, smile and sit down, while enable and promote oppression for another thousand years?

 

Matty Healy or not, the government don't need a reason to justify the oppression towards LGBTQ people. They are doing it DAILY. To say Matty Healy did more harm than just silence is DISGUSTING.

 

Lemme spell it louder for you. WE SHOULD NOT FIGHT BACK THE NAZIS BECAUSE WE ARE EXTREMISTS, WTF am I reading today.

[Daddy]

1 hour ago, réveuse said:

I'm not attempting to troll, this is my personal opinion.

Respect the government killing queer people in the name of homophobia! Respect apartheid! Respect not being able to vote! Respect Jewish people being deported with a train! Respect being stoned to death for being gay or a woman in general! 

 

RESPECT THE LAW! 

[réveuse]

Just now, Daddy said:

Respect the government killing queer people in the name of homophobia! Respect apartheid! Respect not being able to vote! Respect Jewish people being deported with a train! Respect being stoned to death for being gay or a woman in general! 

 

RESPECT THE LAW! 

I believe you misinterpreted my opinion.

[Sugden]

all that over a  kiss

conservative religious people are really mentally ill

[Starshine]

They need to worry less about the gays and more bout them planes. 

[Daddy]

3 minutes ago, Starshine said:

They need to worry less about the gays and more bout them planes. 

[Gwendolyn]

I understand he had good intentions but all he did is give conservatives even more ammo for the upcoming elections in Malaysia it seems like. I know most users here are from countries that don't have to fear for their lives;  all he has done is made it worse for LGBT Malaysians, he can go home, return to the UK and live a wonderful life as a white man while LGBT+ people in religious majority countries are gonna be punished with their lives.