halcyonday Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, MingYouToo said: Shake It Off was THE hit of 2014 be so ******* for real None of the other songs in the YE H100 Top 15 (SIO was #13) have the recurrent streams and the iconic YT power that SIO has what the ****? Shake It Off never made it to IFPI top 10 tbf
Badgalbriel Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Digitalism said: With her daily numbers? Yes it does You wanna talk about daily numbers? Blank Space is still top 40 WW after 10 years of release. Miley and Harry will never be doing that (PITUSA will do it once a year)
HappierJealousy Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Digitalism said: They say it's anti hero. But the numbers are not even close. With the numbers she has Anti Hero should be bigger than those songs. The truth is she is horrible with singles since 1989. It's her weak spot. it‘s not as big as AIW so it’s horrible?
Roberto Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 Several points were made in the OP. Spoiler But for real, you talking like she doesn't have massive singles when she clearly has a few ones.
luckythisway Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 Anti-Hero is serving longevity along the lines of both of those hits. Also, Blank Space is within 10 points of re-entering the Hot 100 this week, 9 YEARS after release. Mind you the song wasn’t even available to stream until 2017
wastedpotential Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 Harry’s House and ESV as eras and as albums were harmed by the strength of the lead, because AIW and Flowers sucked up all the attention, streams, and success that could’ve gone to other songs on the album. Even albums that spawned multiple major hits like FN and After Hours suffered in their sales because of the strength of their singles. Taylor has never suffered from that problem. Shake It Off and Blank Space were almost as inescapable, and yet 1989 moved 10M pure copies off their strength when practically no one else was doing that. Anti-Hero being a massive single didn’t keep every single standard track on Midnights from reaching (or from being projected to reach) 200 million streams on Spotify (with most hitting 300 or 400m) in less than a year. Taylor doesn’t need a singularly dominant song like that. 2
Mark Rih Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, FolkLover1989 said: And how many years did it take Levitating to take off? I think Taylor is fine. Weeknd atleast had multiple hits with AH , comparing Harry and Miley to Taylor is funny but well 🤷 And? It did in the end and that's all that matters Flowers will also end up bigger than any Taylor hit except maybe SIO/BS (it will depend on its longevity). That doesn't change the fact that Taylor is having another massive career repeak at the moment meanwhile Miley's era was a flop
Digitalism Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Badgalbriel said: You wanna talk about daily numbers? Blank Space is still top 40 WW after 10 years of release. Miley and Harry will never be doing that (PITUSA will do it once a year) And that is a monster hit. Everybody knows that. But as I said that was 1989 and she hasn't reached those heights again Matter of fact you're proving my point. She is so big atm that her 10 year old smash is still doing great. Yet the new singles are not. Something is not working in the singles department. She probably doesn't care but let's not act like she is handling singles well
YellowRibbon Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 Pathetic thread OP OT: BS is as big as AIW or Flowers
Hot Volcano Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 Swifties putting AH in the same category as As It Was and Flowers SIO and BS are the closest she got I guess.
Bosque Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 Honey, Flowers has yet to pass Blank Space (a song that was not on Spotify when it smashed) in total streams
MingYouToo Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, halcyonday said: Shake It Off never made it to IFPI top 10 tbf SIO never made it because it was released in mid August 2014, 4.5 months left in the year to track hits. And SIO to any sane mind is bigger than smashes like Problem and Fancy both of which are inferior to SIO in stats so to say SIO isn't a megahit bc it didn't enter the IFPI Top 10 when smaller hits did is a bad faith argument. Not to mention Blank Space went on to be a single early November 2014 and yet charted the IFPI Top 10 of 2015. So all it seems to me is that SIO isn't on the 2014 list because its units run was cut in half by the August release date. This is the same reason you wont find Taylor's IKYWT, Rihanna's WFL, Ariana's TUN on both the 2011, 2012 and 2013 FPI as well as the 2018 and 2019 charts despite being some of the defining megahits of the decade. The IFPI charts put songs released mid-late in the year at a disadvantage. Edited July 20, 2023 by MingYouToo 1 1 1
KingKhalid Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 Ummm I remember blank space was THAT GIRL in middle school I first found out about Taylor from how big it was
halcyonday Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, MingYouToo said: SIO never made it because it was released in mid August 2014, 4.5 months left in the year to track hits. And SIO to any sane mind is bigger than smashes like Problem and Fancy both of which are inferior to SIO in stats so to say SIO isn't a megahit bc it didn't enter the IFPI Top 10 when smaller hits did is a bad faith argument. Not to mention Blank Space went on to be a single early November 2014 and yet charted the IFPI Top 10 of 2015. So all it seems to me is that SIO isn't on the 2014 list because its units run was cut in half by the August release date. This is the same reason you wont find Rihanna's WFL on both the 2011 and 2012 IFPI charts despite being one of the defining megahits of the decade. That's not an excuse. Roar made it in 2013.
xXavril Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 I'm not worried about her not having a 'massive hit' (even though she has ) when she sells more with a rerecording than these 'hit' making artists are selling current records. 1
Just a Gay on ATRL Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 Literally false, SIO & Blank Space were both monstrous hits at their peak & still get crazy high streams. Anti-Hero just recently was a monster-sized hit as well. Love Story & You Belong With Me may not have peaked at #1 but became 2 of the most iconic pop songs of the 00s. You can argue about the others but those 5 are non-debatable.
airplane Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) She’s not really a hitmaker.. i mean her biggest hit in Europe and her highest certified hit since like 2014 in the US is thanks to Rihanna but ANTI-hero might take over in the USA (who knows) Edited July 20, 2023 by airplane 1
iamluisfelipe Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 she doesnt have one. she has several. close the thread
Cain Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 38 minutes ago, Musicmajor said: So, we are just pretending that any of the hits off of 1989 don't exit lol? Blank Space, Shake It Off and Bad Blood alone were massive. Are we pretending these were global monster smashes on the level of Flowers/As It Was/Despacito/Rolling In The Deep Cause
MingYouToo Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, halcyonday said: That's not an excuse. Roar made it in 2013. Another bad faith argument. 2013's #10 capped at 7.6M units, 2014's #10 started at 8M. The barrier to entry was way higher. You can complain about Roar pulling 9.9M units in 2013 alone but do note up to this point, Katy had NO other hit eating her numbers, Unconditionally was floundering below the Top 10, Walking on Air was just a promo single and Dark Horse wasn't the full fledged monster it was until it was sent to radio December 2013 and started destroying the format January 2014. By early November Shake It Off was already poised to lose out on numbers because Blank Space was gaining fast momentum, it went #1 in 3 weeks from release. Katy did not get that disadvantage. And even if you can refute that train of thought, the point is so many other megahits like We Found Love have all failed to hit the IFPI Top 10. To discredit my opinion would be to also imply these songs are not monster hits would be implying that We Found Love isn't the biggest hit of Rihanna's career (which, it objectively is). And even if we say SIO isn't as big as those other songs, then based on your logic, Blank Space IS the song that's as big as those because your whole argument rests on being on the IFPI Top 10 (it was #8) Edited July 20, 2023 by MingYouToo 1 1
lola4789 Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 46 minutes ago, dejmieeen said: Taylor Swift, American Sweetheart, is breaking records left & right. She has a lot of achievements, including Award for the Worst Dance Moves of 2023. Despite having hit after hit, she never had a song as big as "Flowers" or "As It Was". Why? Lack of talent? Mediocre music? Succeded only because high school nerds and gays buys her music, and GP doesn't care? Let's discuss. What a desperate attempt… correct she doesn’t have one song as big as those two, she has multiple. Stop embarrassing yourself and close the thread.
Badgalbriel Posted July 20, 2023 Posted July 20, 2023 30 minutes ago, Digitalism said: And that is a monster hit. Everybody knows that. But as I said that was 1989 and she hasn't reached those heights again Matter of fact you're proving my point. She is so big atm that her 10 year old smash is still doing great. Yet the new singles are not. Something is not working in the singles department. She probably doesn't care but let's not act like she is handling singles well She's not handling singles well? Isn't Anti-Hero huge?
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