bad guy Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 The rollout was not controlled by Interscope but by Billie. They basically give her free reign to do whatever. This is good for her artistic integrity but bad if you care about the Hot 100, which she doesn’t. She still holds the most liked Instagram post for a female album announcement with HTE so clearly the hype was there. Despite all the self-sabotage and lack airplay (big difference between Olivia and Billie) HTE has ended up being a big success for her. I think people don’t realize just what a massive phenomena her EP/debut were despite none of the singles off those having any notable airplay besides bad guy, and a little with WTPO after bad guy exploded. That is something Olivia has a greater edge with, since Interscope makes sure she gets played. SOUR was massive yet still hasn’t hit the overall units WWAFA pushed globally so that tells you all you need to know. Billie plays the long game. If she wanted a #1 hit she would’ve just dropped the collab with Drake or make Tiktok/radio fodder but she doesn’t. Personally I find her switching sounds and experimenting with music much more interesting than doing rehashes of what you’ve done before. When you look at all the respected music icons/legends of the 70s they did the same and success followed them anyway. Maybe that’s why boomers like her But to answer OP Billie is doing right. She makes what she wants and isn’t a chart chaser. That’s always been her brand. Sidenote: Vampire had less YT views in 24h than Your Power. Billie has debut power. The subject matter however is just not as relatable.
AvadaKedavra Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) Billie changed her image too abruptly. She was serving something different-spooky and really cool. Like some kind of new Gaga from the Gen Z Thats why people started to notice her Then she went blonde and turned into another basic balladist with retro vibes. All the magic she had was almost lost. Songs like Your Power and Lost cause were so basic The interesting songs from the record like happier than ever were released too late This could be the album cover of any american idol contestant If we compare her youtube views from her first and second album u can notice how much power she lost She was everywhere and now people dont talk that much about her Billie really needs to step up in her third era or she will be another Lana del Rey-Lorde type of artist..... Meanwhile if Olivia plays her cards right she can turn into a Taylor type of artist with huge mainstream success for years Edited July 5, 2023 by AvadaKedavra 3 2
katara Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 Some of yall are really short sighted. Olivia will continue to fade away slowly because she will likely keep it safe and samey while Billie will come back with a smasha era because she set herself up as a versatile girl. 1
Starkboy Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 Billie would have smashed if she had released the titletrack as the lead single. the rest of the album, the other singles especially, were lackluster tbh. I doubt it was a problem of image. people were stanning blonde Billie back then. it was just the music that didn't connect as good as her previous work.
LustSpell Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) Billie would've came harder if she did the title track and NDA as the only droplets from the album instead of some random forgettable ballad Olivia Rodrigo is safe and samey, still making music for girls who peaked in high school. She'll thankfully fade when the whiny people finally grow up. Edited July 4, 2023 by LustSpell
JoJo Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, bad guy said: Sidenote: Vampire had less YT views in 24h than Your Power. Billie has debut power. The subject matter however is just not as relatable. Tbf YouTube has become less and less relevant when it comes to music over the years.
50thStateofMind Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 HTE was such a lackluster album, literally nothing else on that album would be a hit. 1 2
La Reina Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 Olivia plays it safe while Billie reinvented too quickly and didn't deliver a strong enough lead single to justify the change. Many people loved her EP/debut eras and green hair edgy look and sound because it made her unique. With HTE, the rollout was a mess, she received lots of hate, and she became a blonde just like any other standard pop girl. It kinda stripped away her identity and originality a bit. I have no idea where she's going to go from here tbh. That being said, "Happier Than Ever" the song is a masterpiece.
Beyonnaise Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 Billie is bigger than Olivia. Vampire is debuting high based on the Sour hype but after only a few days, it’s not showing signs of being anywhere near as big as Drivers License or Good 4 U. She’ll probably fade after this album, the teens will outgrow her.
Dula Peep Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 Billie took the Gaga route, Olivia is taking the Katy Perry route
La Reina Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 38 minutes ago, bad guy said: The rollout was not controlled by Interscope but by Billie. They basically give her free reign to do whatever. This is good for her artistic integrity but bad if you care about the Hot 100, which she doesn’t. 39 minutes ago, bad guy said: Personally I find her switching sounds and experimenting with music much more interesting than doing rehashes of what you’ve done before. 40 minutes ago, bad guy said: She makes what she wants and isn’t a chart chaser. The Xtina Stripped-print shining through. They share the same birthday for a reason. Sag power.
unclefloprry Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 do basic generic pop music for white teenage girls
thatsmydemi Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 HTE was still a successful era but the marketing, especially before the album dropped, was so weird. She kept dropping songs (and not the best choices).
bad guy Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 32 minutes ago, JoJo said: Tbf YouTube has become less and less relevant when it comes to music over the years. I don't think YT matters much these days either but it does prove she has debut power. 22 minutes ago, La Reina said: The Xtina Stripped-print shining through. They share the same birthday for a reason. Sag power.
chosensparkles Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 30 minutes ago, La Reina said: The Xtina Stripped-print shining through. They share the same birthday for a reason. Sag power. the biggest insult you could throw at Billie... ouch 1
La Reina Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 1 minute ago, chosensparkles said: the biggest insult you could throw at Billie... ouch Stripped remains the blueprint album for pop girls doing whatever they want, including the "sang off-key in my chorus" girl in your sig who used it for her own album, Revival. Anyways, the person I quoted clearly wasn't insulted by the comparison so you can move along now. 1
chosensparkles Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, La Reina said: Stripped remains the blueprint album for pop girls doing whatever they want, including the "sang off-key in my chorus" girl in your sig who used it for her own album, Revival. Anyways, the person I quoted clearly wasn't insulted by the comparison so you can move along now. wishing anyone the Xtina route must be ill spirited... forgotten albums, always in the shadow of another blonde popstar, no artistic direction, relegated to a tv judge, and now flopping even more with each new releases... 1 1 1
La Reina Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 1 minute ago, chosensparkles said: wishing anyone the Xtina route must be ill spirited... forgotten albums, always in the shadow of another blonde popstar, no artistic direction, relegated to a tv judge, and now flopping even more with each new releases... Xtina remains one of the best-selling female artists of all-time. A 7x-GRAMMY winner who took her career into her own hands early on to avoid being controlled or bossed around in order to maintain her happiness, love for music, and the ability to do whatever the **** she wants, when she wants. Not every artist can relate. Do you get it now or should I repeat it in simpler terms, "kindness punk"?
chosensparkles Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, La Reina said: Xtina remains one of the best-selling female artists of all-time. A 7x-GRAMMY winner who took her career into her own hands early on to avoid being controlled or bossed around in order to maintain her happiness, love for music, and the ability to do whatever the **** she wants, when she wants. Not every artist can relate. Do you get it now or should I repeat it in simpler terms, "kindness punk"? 57M in 25 years is good now?
badgirlriri Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, CandleGuy said: The single rollout was extremely messy. Everything I Wanted, Your Future, and Therefore I Am were all marketed as droplets at the time of release. Your Power was marketed as the lead single. Then it flopped hard, so they scrambled and retroactively made My Future the lead single and TIA the second single. Meanwhile, Everything I Wanted was not included despite being the biggest smash of all of them and fitting the best into the album's theme and sound. When Your Power flopped she started rapid firing singles and none of them stuck until the HTE title track saved the album (which should have been the second single to EIW being the lead). Long story short, Billie is what happens when the artist has too much creative control. Olivia clearly has a huge team guiding her and as a result, Vampire is a perfectly executed sophomore album lead single. What in the fan fiction is going on here, the entire album was completed months before Your Power was released and always included my future and Therefore I Am. Everything I Wanted was already placed on physical deluxe editions of WWAFA people so there was never any true question about its inclusion. And thank the lord for Billie’s creative control granting her another acclaimed, successful album. Edited July 4, 2023 by badgirlriri 1
La Reina Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, chosensparkles said: 57M in 25 years is good now? What a limp response. Anyways, we love to see women like Billie (and Xtina) get creative control in order to create their best albums. As someone once said, "I write for the music not the charts"
chosensparkles Posted July 4, 2023 Posted July 4, 2023 1 minute ago, La Reina said: What a limp response. Anyways, we love to see women like Billie (and Xtina) get creative control in order to create their best albums. As someone once said, "I write for the music not the charts" that's not even a drag, Olivia is in full control of her art too, she literally made a deal at 17 to own her music and be in control
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