Communion Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, Sombre said: Can someone explain why this would ultimately make Biden lose in 2024? Biden promised people $20k in forgiveness. He delivered $0 in forgiveness. Why would people male the effort to vote for someone who couldn't deliver on what they promised? 3
Sazare Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, wish said: whatever this means We’re finally getting this 5
Domination Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 Just now, Sazare said: We’re finally getting this I cannot believe she ran on this 1
Sazare Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 Just now, Domination said: I cannot believe she ran on this I admire her for not deleting that tweet tbh, it’s so funny 1
Hector Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 More proof that elections have consequences. 2016 will haunt this country forever. 3 2
nadiamendell Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sazare said: We’re finally getting this She's truly a parody.
BeyIridescent Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 36 minutes ago, Elusive Chanteuse said: :( I’ll never own a house now * yes I’m aware no one forced me to take out loans you are not alone. I’m swimming in debt and this just adds to my burdens. I’m an old millennial and I feel the American dream will never come to fruition for me. 1
Communion Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Hector said: More proof that elections have consequences. This is such a sillly comment because it then suggests there is no purpose anymore in voting post-2016 despite you trying to dunk on non-voters. So people who couldn't even vote due to age in 2016 and who did vote in 2020 don't get what Biden promised because of a SCOTUS that Biden doesn't want to reform? The SCOTUS majority won't change from 2024-2028 so I guess no point in voting in 2024? You're going to finger-wag your way into a 2nd Trump presidency instead of actually improving people's lives. 3
BeyIridescent Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hector said: More proof that elections have consequences. 2016 will haunt this country forever. I said this. I’m black and I cautioned all of my family and friends that overwhelmingly supported Obama that their failure to embrace Hillary Clinton would have dire consequences to our community. Republicans would erase any trace that there was a progressive man of color as President. Little did I know, that they would set us back over fifty years. It’s hard to believe that this country is less progressive now than it was in the 80’s when I was born. Edited June 30, 2023 by BeyIridescent 1 1
LustSpell Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 Like this pisses me of specifically because this was going to be the one thing that got my sister out of debt so she could turn her life around. But noooo rich people can get free money but poorer and middle class need to foot the bill. **** anyone who dares thinking of saying they're Republican or they would vote for one. You are lower than scum. Calling you a human is an honor.
Sazare Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, Pheromosa said: i went back to school so I wont have to pay. wonder how long I can keep that up Will your loans still accrue interest while you’re in school? I know they’ve been paused for the last three years but I’m curious about once that expires in a few months
nadiamendell Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 Biden better do something drastic or he's for sure not winning in 2024.
TiaTamera Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 52 minutes ago, Marvin said: If Biden actually lets the student loan payments resume without providing any relief, he 100% will lose in 2024. I don’t know why anyone thought we would get student loans forgiveness in the first place. Do people not know what country they live in
Cruel Summer Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, luckythisway said: Good. Overpaying for unnecessary education has become such an epidemic in the United States. All you need to be successful is a solid education (which you can get from a much cheaper state school), real-world experience, and drive. Other people’s mistakes/misunderstandings of what you need to extract from a college education shouldn’t be a federally controlled, financial responsibility for taxpayers State schools are not always cheaper, many employers require bachelor's degrees, and we're talking about people who are largely 18 and often 17 when they are pressured to make these decisions. The cost of education today, and the predatory student loan system, is literally founded upon extracting as much money as possible from very young and often economically disadvantaged people. These are loans you cannot get discharged under normal circumstances even in filing for bankruptcy. They are loans for which normal forgiveness programs require a decade or more of payments. We should be paying more in taxes to cover the costs of education, open up significant opportunity for everyone, and move forward as a society; as such, providing forgiveness for people who have had to borrow for what they were told was the pathway to the "American dream" seems completely reasonable. We dump hundreds of billions of dollars, nearly a trillion now, into the military and defense every year. We forgave hundreds of billions of PPP Loans, which a much higher average amount of over $72k per loan, that have been demonstrated to be rife with abuse and fraud, yet we can't forgive honest American taxpayers who simply wanted an education to try to make it in life? 8
TiaTamera Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sazare said: Will your loans still accrue interest while you’re in school? I know they’ve been paused for the last three years but I’m curious about once that expires in a few months It depends on the type of loan. Subsidized loans don’t accrue interest but unsubsidized and most private do.
Sazare Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 1 minute ago, TiaTamera said: It depends on the type of loan. Subsidized loans don’t accrue interest but unsubsidized and most private do. Oh that’s right. I remember I had both and had a few hundred dollars in interest on the unsubsidized loans by the time I graduated. Sad!
Headlock Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, Rotunda said: Phermosa, MPP, MPA, MSW, MFA, MPH, JD, PhD Throw an MD in there to complete the doctorate trifecta
CandleGuy Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 52 minutes ago, Sannie said: This logic just does not make sense to me because it is basically saying "people will be so mad at Biden for the GOP striking down his plan that they will let the GOP take control". Gen Z and the younger voting population are much more in tune with what is going on right now and they understand the problem standing in their way is the GOP. They are not going to sit back and let the GOP take over when the GOP is who are making these horrible decisions. I have faith in this kids because they know this is what their future holds if they sit back and do nothing, and nothing points to them not doing anything. They will just get angrier than ever before. This is what happened in 2016 though. Bernie Bros so mad at the DNC (with reason, admittedly) for sabotaging Bernie's chances that they stayed at home, therefore handing the election to Trump and the GOP. We can only hope that Gen Z is smarter than Millennials were. 1
Sazare Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, CandleGuy said: This is what happened in 2016 though. Bernie Bros so mad at the DNC (with reason, admittedly) for sabotaging Bernie's chances that they stayed at home, therefore handing the election to Trump and the GOP. We can only hope that Gen Z is smarter than Millennials were. Didn’t polling indicate that more Bernie supporters voted for Hillary in 2016 than Hillary supporters turned out for Obama in 2008? 2
nadiamendell Posted June 30, 2023 Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, CandleGuy said: This is what happened in 2016 though. Bernie Bros so mad at the DNC (with reason, admittedly) for sabotaging Bernie's chances that they stayed at home, therefore handing the election to Trump and the GOP. We can only hope that Gen Z is smarter than Millennials were. 4 minutes ago, Sazare said: Didn’t polling indicate that more Bernie supporters voted for Hillary in 2016 than Hillary supporters turned out for Obama in 2008? This. Just admit Hillary was a terrible candidate and move on. The only people that liked her were the hardcore dems. Edited June 30, 2023 by nadiamendell 3
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