DevinWylde Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 Really like this, I feel like this is sort of her working around to explore different types of sounds. Sour was very polished and I imagine a very controlled experience so this being her way to get a longer leash makes sense. Also like that tracks that are the most Sour sounding are near the front, and it sort of deviates as you get to the end. It's definitely not my favorite album of the year but it continues to prove that she has a ton of potential and can provide some bops and hits while she reaches it.
Cruel Summer Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 So I liked Sour, and loved tracks like Favorite Crime and Jealousy, Jealousy, but… this is a significantly stronger album IMO. I saw someone recently say that Sour in comparison felt like an EP that was expanded in response to Driver’s License smashing, while this feels like its own holistic body of work, and in hindsight I can understand that perspective. I definitely went into this expecting a bunch of songs like the singles and maybe Good 4 U. And then I actually got things like All American *****, Lacy, and Logical - all excellent. I really think the singles, while good, didn’t quite set the same tone as the album as a whole, and I don’t rank them particularly high (not that they’re bad). AAB does kind of give Avril a little bit once it picks up the pace, and I mean that as a good thing since I loved Avril’s latest album. GHB needs to be a single. The bridge is the best part. I could see Love Is Embarrassing on radios, too, super catchy - might even be a better single choice than GHB. Pretty Isn’t Pretty is also good for this - similarly catchy, not too upbeat or downbeat, just the right energy. The discussions about the lyrics of The Grudge make my feelings about it it a little complex, but it’s just… very good. I guess that explains how I feel about the album as a whole. I was honestly ready to feel differently about it, especially since the singles didn’t really hit with me, but I think the album is good enough to be undeniable. It all just connects and makes sense and flows. It’s a very good album. 1
sh0ckw4ves Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 get him back! is really good but from first listen I heard the melody of 'Can't Stop' by Red Hot Chilli Peppers in the backing vocals Perched for the next drama
harry_bev Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 Is The Grudge actually about Taylor? That picture they had together is was posted in May 2021 (albeit on a Wednesday). I love them both but can’t with the fued’ing 😭
Nefertiti0 Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) Spotify - partial day streams all-american b*tch - 312,700 lacy - 242,300 ballad of a homeschooled girl - 224,956 making the bed - 221,541 logical - 202,820 get him back! - 234,475 love is embarrassing - 184,039 the grudge - 184,107 pretty isn’t pretty - 169,733 teenage dream - 160,817 Edited September 8, 2023 by Nefertiti0
byzantium Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Nefertiti0 said: Spotify - partial day streams lacy - 242,300 ballad of a homeschooled girl - 224,956 making the bed - 221,541 logical - 202,820 get him back! - 234,475 love is embarrassing - 184,039 the grudge - 184,107 pretty isn’t pretty - 169,733 teenage dream - 160,817 What is this from?
TalkThatRihanna Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nefertiti0 said: Spotify - partial day streams all-american b*tch - 312,700 lacy - 242,300 ballad of a homeschooled girl - 224,956 making the bed - 221,541 logical - 202,820 get him back! - 234,475 love is embarrassing - 184,039 the grudge - 184,107 pretty isn’t pretty - 169,733 teenage dream - 160,817 Smash update and very deserved
lacy Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) UK Store is doing signed inserts with vinyls and cassettes for a good price, I just cancelled my Red vinyl + signed insert from the german store as tha bihh hadn't even been dispatched yet and grabbed the white vinyl + signed insert and the UK exclusive cassette with a signed insert for almost the same price CANCELLED: New: Edited September 8, 2023 by lacy
wantedyoutogrow Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 i have to re-listen but i think all american b!cth is my fave anyways if y'all stream tinashe's album i will get on the frontlines and defend olivia against #them
Nefertiti0 Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, byzantium said: What is this from? it's from Spotify desktop app. these are streams that GUTS received before 00:00 UTC Edited September 8, 2023 by Nefertiti0
GAGAISTHEBESTYA Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nefertiti0 said: Spotify - partial day streams all-american b*tch - 312,700 lacy - 242,300 ballad of a homeschooled girl - 224,956 making the bed - 221,541 logical - 202,820 get him back! - 234,475 love is embarrassing - 184,039 the grudge - 184,107 pretty isn’t pretty - 169,733 teenage dream - 160,817 +2.13m partial day streams this insane as hell
byzantium Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, harry_bev said: Is The Grudge actually about Taylor? That picture they had together is was posted in May 2021 (albeit on a Wednesday). I love them both but can’t with the fued’ing 😭 There is not anything to support that it is about Taylor other than wishful thinking by some on ATRL. This site said Vampire was also about Taylor despite it clearly being about one of the older guys she dated so I would not trust this place’s word or intentions.
Orsay Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) ok i love this album A LOT so no shade but the opening strings to all american ***** sound just like Gaga’s Joanne and it’s sendiiing, also the chorus sounds a lot like Miley’s Start All Over love is embarrassing is far and away the best track Edited September 8, 2023 by Orsay
Uncatena Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 22 minutes ago, Cruel Summer said: I saw someone recently say that Sour in comparison felt like an EP that was expanded in response to Driver’s License smashing, while this feels like its own holistic body of work, and in hindsight I can understand that perspective. thats soon on!
harry_bev Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 1 minute ago, byzantium said: There is not anything to support that it is about Taylor other than wishful thinking by some on ATRL. This site said Vampire was also about Taylor despite it clearly being about one of the older guys she dated so I would not trust this place’s word or intentions. Thank goodness. I’m a massive Swiftie and also a big fan of Olivia - the copyright thing is awkward but I just can’t imagine her being THAT offended about it. But it definitely is strange that she’s gone so quiet about Taylor ever since.
jonapova Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 Hated both of the singles. Listened to the album today, very impressed with the 1-2-3-4 punch of logical, GHB!, LIE and the grudge.
PurrKaty Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Black Jesus said: I still can't understand how or why this girl got so famous for the LIFE of me but I decided to give this a listen and I actually liked some of it. Why are her radio singles so terrible compared to her album tracks?? She had hype from staring in High School Music the Series, Drivers License went viral on tiktok, the writing/vocals/production/visuals were all great, and the break up storyline with her co-star really propelled her from the start. Reminds me of Ariana Grande debuting top 10 with her first ever single The Way, cause she too had a fan base from her show and her relationship with Mac Miller as a feature on the song. Olivia delivered amazing follow up singles that also went viral, and delivered a great first album. She wrote or co-wrote all her songs, had huge influence in production, and great vocals. She expressed her love for Taylor Swift and was being called the next Taylor with her pen game, and had a friendship with her at the time. Then won a bunch of awards. She also is a huge role model for Gen Z and relates very much to her generation. There’s much more I could add, but I’m not surprised at all she’s this big tbh. I love her single choices but to each their own Edited September 8, 2023 by PurrKaty
Saintlor Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, lacy said: UK Store is doing signed inserts with vinyls and cassettes for a good price, I just cancelled my Red vinyl + signed insert from the german store as tha bihh hadn't even been dispatched yet and grabbed the white vinyl + signed insert and the UK exclusive cassette with a signed insert for almost the same price CANCELLED: New: Shame you didn't order a few weeks back. I ordered on Bad Idea Right release date and I got that + the cassette for £28.99 (they had the other colours instock too) I was kinda shook at how good the price was for this bundle Edited September 8, 2023 by Saintlor
lacy Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 Just now, Saintlor said: Shame you didn't order a few weeks back. I ordered on Bad Idea Right release date and I got that + the cassette for £28.99 That's a different insert, thats the 5 inch insert, i already have one of those framed with a cd, the new one is the 11 inch insert, i only really needed one but i got two so i can display whichever has the prettier signature and keep one in storage or see if my niece wants it or something
byzantium Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, harry_bev said: Thank goodness. I’m a massive Swiftie and also a big fan of Olivia - the copyright thing is awkward but I just can’t imagine her being THAT offended about it. But it definitely is strange that she’s gone so quiet about Taylor ever since. We don’t know 95% of what happened. The entire industry is rather screwed up after the blurred lines case. However it’s a little telling that there are weekly 20 page threads about Olivia and Taylor but radio silence on Olivia and Paramore. Quite honestly, I think she was a little bothered in general by plagiarism narrative that started arising and was advise by her lawyers/pr team to stop mentioning a lot of artists. Plus when you are starting out in the industry you don’t want to live in the shadow of another artist anyways.
Saintlor Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 1 minute ago, lacy said: That's a different insert, thats the 5 inch insert, i already have one of those framed with a cd, the new one is the 11 inch insert, i only really needed one but i got two so i can display whichever has the prettier signature and keep one in storage or see if my niece wants it or something I see I didn't know there was a difference! I got an ugly and lazy signature
PurrKaty Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, harry_bev said: Thank goodness. I’m a massive Swiftie and also a big fan of Olivia - the copyright thing is awkward but I just can’t imagine her being THAT offended about it. But it definitely is strange that she’s gone so quiet about Taylor ever since. I believe her and Taylor did have somewhat of a falling out, but I don’t see Olivia or Taylor really putting that into their music. It’s not like the Kanye situation that was so public and truly offensive and filled with lies. These 2 girls know they share a lot of fans too and wouldn’t want to divide that. Even if they truly don’t talk anymore behind the scenes I think they’d love for people to support each other still. I’m a Taylor stan and a huge fan of Olivia as well.
brooklyndaddy Posted September 8, 2023 Posted September 8, 2023 I don't know much about this girl but is she like a Taylor protege? I'm not a fan of Taylor but I can see how influenced she is! It sounds like if Taylor's writing was put over Miley or Avril pop punk runofff... cute but not much more. She sounds best when she goes less down the middle Disney rock
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