John Slayne Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 52 minutes ago, BeenTheShit said: Think about it logically from a fight or flight, life and death, standpoint. If there are fewer living people inside the vessel that means more oxygen, food, and water to keep yourself alive long enough to potentially be rescued. In that intense of a situation, all bets are off and it's every man for himself. None of them can be thinking rationally at this point. they probably ate the CEO if I had to guess lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harwee Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 The construction of the submarine Its giving carnival ride. They could not have seen a bigger red flag than a death waiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shookspeare Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 the search area being twice the area of Connecticut... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Slayne Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, Adam’s Eve said: Any thoughts on who should play him in the live action remake? Daniel Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suburbannature Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Those people clawing on the metal frame of that submarine trying to escape as they run out of oxygen while people are on tiktok making memes about them suffocating to death. What a strange world we live in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otter Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, State of Grace. said: Well for me it's not really irrelevant to the situation. Once again, this is not the same as boarding a plane. Commercial aviation is FAR more regulated and safer. Millions of people climb on airplanes and fly daily with little concern. More people have literally walked on the moon/been to space than to the deepest part of the Pacific Ocean/the Mariana Trench. Yes, we can die anywhere and at any given moment but these guys willingly jumped in an experimental deep-sea homemade sub. They weren't even competent scientists/oceanographers/researchers/sub-experts expanding their knowledge/know what they're doing. You asserted they should have... at least made sure that there were proper safety measures and procedures in case of an emergency." But what exactly do you know of the safety measures and procedures, or those they checked for? What are the safety measures of a descending plane? Probably none of any meaning. There's definitely an energy of people trying assert superiority and gloat over the situation meanwhile having very little nautical knowlege. Before the news reported on the safty, most of the sentiments were merely about the cost or the irony. Suddenly now it's "duh, of course it was going to sink" Working within certain parameters, there are only so many safety measures that you could deploy in set circumstances and being real, we know people mostly put faith in others entities who will proclaim expertise in those topics. As you said, they're not scientists, just like the average plane passenger is not an aerospace engineer. Equally we don't know what actually happened yet. People keep stating a plane is safer, but what is the statistical safety of such a deep sea deep dive? People don't actually operate on this level of statical references in their head, they trust in others & base it off observation, experience & history. Given the public operation of the company, their claims to "meet or exceed" DNV-GL certification, very little in the way of deep sea tragedies (if it was a death trap, surely it'd be shut down/ Not allowed to operate), hundreds of safe descents claimed by the company, and other obvious marketing materials which make light of the declaimer etc ,(I.e most casual drugs come with a disclaimer of potential death). It's not hard to see why they wouldn't see it as a walking death trap. You guys are obviously approaching it with more skepticism on safty then you would if you had heard about the expedition through their marketing materials as opposed to a news report of it already being missing. Edited June 21, 2023 by Otter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandeVersace Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 I know they're stupid and people are cruel and hate the rich but turning this into a meme contest is just tasteless. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Otter said: You asserted they should have... at least made sure that there were proper safety measures and procedures in case of an emergency." But what exactly do you know of the safety measures and procedures, or those they checked for? What are the safety measures of a descending plane? Probably none of any meaning. There's definitely an energy of people trying assert superiority and gloat over the situation meanwhile having very little nautical knowlege. Before the news reported on the safty, most of the sentiments were merely about the cost or the irony. Suddenly now it's "duh, of course it was going to sink" Working within certain parameters, there are only so many safety measures that you could deploy in set circumstances and being real, we know people mostly put faith in others entities who will proclaim expertise in those topics. As you said, they're not scientists, just like the average plane passenger is not an aerospace engineer. Equally we don't know what actually happened yet. People keep stating a plane is safer, but what is the statistical safety of such a deep sea deep dive? People don't actually operate on this level of statical references in their head, they trust in others & base it off observation, experience & history. Given the public operation of the company, their claims to "meet or exceed" DNV-GL certification, very little in the way of deep sea tragedies (if it was a death trap, surely it'd be shut down/ Not allowed to operate), hundreds of safe descents claimed by the company, and other obvious marketing materials which make light of the declaimer etc ,(I.e most casual drugs come with a disclaimer of potential death). It's not hard to see why they wouldn't see it as a walking death trap. You guys are obviously approaching it with more skepticism on safty then you would if you had heard about the expedition through their marketing materials as opposed to a news report of it already being missing. Oh you really aren't getting the difference 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 this is what it looks like inside, like can u imagine sitting like this for 3 days? my god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Cowboy Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, suburbannature said: Those people clawing on the metal frame of that submarine trying to escape as they run out of oxygen while people are on tiktok making memes about them suffocating to death. What a strange world we live in They most likely died instantly as the submarine probably imploded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam’s Eve Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, John Slayne said: Daniel Craig Him coming out the sea at the end of the film as the only survivor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xclusivestylesz Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, Starshine said: this is what it looks like inside, like can u imagine sitting like this for 3 days? my god Do you know how they were viewing the shipwreck? Like were they taking turns kneeling by the small ass window? Was there an onboard camera system? 🥴 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starshine Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 minute ago, xclusivestylesz said: Do you know how they were viewing the shipwreck? Like were they taking turns kneeling by the small ass window? Was there an onboard camera system? 🥴 They probably had to crawl to the end and switch turns looking through the window (literally the only seat onboard and is actually a toilet with the cover) or look at the live camera on a monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoPapi Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 9 minutes ago, Space Cowboy said: They most likely died instantly as the submarine probably imploded. That sounds horrible but probably the quickest and less painful way to die if death is inevitable. I would rather this than slowly starve or suffocate to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ94 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 The best hope for these people is that the submarine imploded and they all died instantly cause there is no way they are gonna survive this I would rather died instantly than being alive all this time suffering and dying in the end anyways 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DONTYELLATME Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistedInnocence Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, cat1867 said: Contrary to the dailymail and other vulture new sites, the most likely scenario is that all on board died within seconds of the sub losing contact. The most likely scenario is that the sub depressurized due to a failure of the carbon fiber hull. That would have led to the sub imploding instanteously killing everyone on board in less than a second. The hull wasn't properly rated for those depths and they had an haphazard in house way for checking fatigue cracks (when metal is pressurized and depressurized small cracks form and then lead to the metal failing. tons of aircraft accidents and other collapses are caused by metal fatigue). The second most likely scenario is that there was a hole in the sub which would led to the sub getting completely flooded in the less than a second. If the sub was just lost, they would have simply released their ballast and risen to the top of the ocean extremely quickly. For them to be still alive, the sub would have had to both lose communications and get stuck on debris in a manner that didn't cause a leak or depressurization event which is pretty unlikely. Oceanographers said on the news that if it’s lost communication power and rose to the surface, after 24 hours, that it would still be just as difficult to find them because only the top would show and it’s white in the middle of the ocean. They very well could be floating at the surface but still in the same peril of losing oxygen with no way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitsouko Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Everything about this is appalling, from the stupid concept to the obscene price to the jokes and memes in response. If they’re not dead, they’re dying right now. And we’re so desensitized that we’re joking about humans dying in real time. Rich or not. It’s all so ugly. 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwendolyn Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 his son is TRASH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jotham Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Wow... the irony. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/21/us/wendy-stockton-rush-titanic-missing-submersible.html Quote The submersible pilot’s spouse is descended from a famous couple who died on the Titanic. Wendy Rush, the wife of Stockton Rush, the OceanGate chief executive who was piloting the submersible that disappeared Sunday during a dive to the Titanic wreckage, is a descendant of two first-class passengers who died when the ocean liner sank in 1912, archival records show. Ms. Rush is a great-great-granddaughter of the retailing magnate Isidor Straus and his wife, Ida, two of the wealthiest people aboard the Titanic for its first voyage. Mr. Straus, born in 1845, was a co-owner of Macy’s department store. Ms. Rush, born Wendy Hollings Weil, married Stockton Rush in 1986, according to a New York Times wedding announcement. Her LinkedIn page says that she has participated in three OceanGate expeditions to the Titanic wreckage in the last two years; that she serves as the company’s communications director; and that she is a longtime board member of the company’s charitable foundation. Ms. Rush could not immediately be reached for comment for this item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimenawa Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 That racist guy is not his biological son, just a stepson who has probably no emotional connection to his stepdad. I don't get why people give him so much importance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Save-Me-Oprah Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 31 minutes ago, Starshine said: literally the only seat onboard and is actually a toilet with the cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeenTheShit Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Gwendolyn said: his son is TRASH I guess being racist is another one of his coping mechanisms. Now he’s trying to back track and justify. Edited June 22, 2023 by BeenTheShit Tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almodusa Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 If they are alive, I can’t imagine all that fecal matter that has accumulated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeenTheShit Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Almodusa said: If they are alive, I can’t imagine all that fecal matter that has accumulated At this point it’s probably all contained in the small portable toilet. You’re told to eat lightly before going on the trip, and they only brought a small amount of food so more than likely they’ve all probably only gone one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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