base talk Bigger Peak: Lady Gaga vs Taylor Swift

[Lorenzo22]

as a celebrity gaga, as a musician taylor

[Gagacharts]

3 hours ago, FightDragonsWithMe said:

Taylor has like 3 peaks while Gaga burned out musically by 2011 to comeback with Celine Dion type music with ASIB so Taylor. 

Well, the OP saked who has the biger peak not who has the most peaks.

 

OT: Gaga´s peak was bigger. She had everything (Massive sales & chart success, iconic live performances, timeless music videos, media presence, critical acclaim, touring success and so on). 

[downtown]

I would say gaga

[Kiss It Better]

Gaga's peak was soooo huge, everybody and their mothers who didn't even listen to radio or watch TV knows her or heard of her song(s)

[Otter]

Taylor where numbers are concerned, Gaga in terms of impact 

[Mr. Stratus]

2 minutes ago, Otter said:

Taylor where numbers are concerned, Gaga in terms of impact 

even numbers would be a stretch outside Anglosphere. according to CM, Gaga is still well above her sales in Europe and Asia - and tha'ts down to her initial 3 years.

[Axelios]

1 minute ago, Mr. Stratus said:

even numbers would be a stretch outside Anglosphere. according to CM, Gaga is still well above her sales in Europe and Asia - and tha'ts down to her initial 3 years.

You mean pure sales?

[zzmyth]

Gaga's peak by far

[Popboi.]

5 hours ago, thetea said:

she's used so many gimmicks. 

not to mention how she constantly claims things are limited, but then releases more copies in the following weeks 

 

Chromatica also has a huge amount of vinyl versions, merch bundles, tour bundles, etc and sold next to nothing compared to Midnights. So no, this kind of gimmick is not a determined factor. 
 

 

Taylor is bigger right now than Gaga ever was.

Edited May 19, 2023 by Popboi.

[thetea]

3 minutes ago, Popboi. said:

Chromatica also has a huge amount of vinyl versions, merch bundles, tour bundles, etc and sold next to nothing compared to Midnights. So no, this kind of gimmick is not a determined factor. 
 

 

Taylor is bigger right now than Gaga ever was.

that's not the point. that user is trying to claim that gaga used gimmicks as if taylor hasn't used them as well. 

 

only a delusional person would seriously think that taylor had the bigger peak. taylor has had consistent huge success, gaga doesn't have consistent success but her 2009 - 2012 peak has been unmatched by any artist after her

[Into The Void]

5 hours ago, Marry Illusion Glory said:

 

I'd say it's still Gaga by far.

 

Her peak was a perfect storm made up of multiple powerful factors that she perfected and used to her advantage – media frenzy, celebrity, superstardom, shock value, a rapidly changing internet landscape with all the giant social media platforms like YouTube, Facebook and Twitter on the rise. All of that afforded her a very unique window of opportunity to reach and traverse multiple generations at an almost unprecedented scale in a short amount of time.

 

She was ubiquitous. Massive albums, massive singles, massive tours. Music video premieres that were cultural events. Iconic red carpet appearances that instantly found their way to full-page coverage. And this wasn't just happening disproporionately in pockets around the world, this was happening everywhere, daily and uniformly. Nowadays, we can curate our social experiences on our TikTok and Instagram feeds based on what we like or not but back then that wasn't possible as much, which made her even more inescapable and fueled her rise even further. To this day, that kind of cultural saturation that she attained as a result of simultaneous penetration (depth) and permeation (breadth) worldwide has not been matched by anyone after her, tbh. It's why so many publications refer to her as "Pop's last great superstar" or a variation of that.

 

She could easily retire today and she will still remain a household name forever with what she accomplished early on in her career.

 

Gaga peak bigger proven by Google trends 

[Marry The Gods]

5 hours ago, Marry Illusion Glory said:

 

I'd say it's still Gaga by far.

 

Her peak was a perfect storm made up of multiple powerful factors that she perfected and used to her advantage – media frenzy, celebrity, superstardom, shock value, a rapidly changing internet landscape with all the giant social media platforms like YouTube, Facebook and Twitter on the rise. All of that afforded her a very unique window of opportunity to reach and traverse multiple generations at an almost unprecedented scale in a short amount of time.

 

She was ubiquitous. Massive albums, massive singles, massive tours. Music video premieres that were cultural events. Iconic red carpet appearances that instantly found their way to full-page coverage. And this wasn't just happening disproporionately in pockets around the world, this was happening everywhere, daily and uniformly. Nowadays, we can curate our social experiences on our TikTok and Instagram feeds based on what we like or not but back then that wasn't possible as much, which made her even more inescapable and fueled her rise even further. To this day, that kind of cultural saturation that she attained as a result of simultaneous penetration (depth) and permeation (breadth) worldwide has not been matched by anyone after her, tbh. It's why so many publications refer to her as "Pop's last great superstar" or a variation of that.

 

She could easily retire today and she will still remain a household name forever with what she accomplished early on in her career.

 

[aesthetic bih]

I really wanna witness another Gaga type of peak in 2020s, the GagaMania of 2009-2010 was just phenomenal

 

[WEEKND]

Obviously Taylor lol 

 

She occupied the entire top 10 of the hot 100 

 

Gaga could never 

[WEEKND]

You guys are letting nostalgia get in the way. Gaga at her peak wasn’t the biggest touring act Madonna was. She wasn’t the biggest digital seller Rihanna was. 
 

in 2023 Taylor is the queen of streaming the queen of touring and the reigning queen of the b200 and the hot 100 

 

how is that not bigger than whatever 99 cent deals Gaga had to make to clear 1M in a week. 

[HausOfPunk]

5 hours ago, Marry Illusion Glory said:

 

 

It's funny how the Swifties like to claim that Taylor is some massive cultural force while Gaga has dropped off the face of the earth post-2012, when in fact this chart proves that their baseline level of relevance is about the same.

[Erreur2 La Nature]

Lady Gaga’s peak was MUCH bigger. 

[littlebodybigheart]

y’all 40 year old gays will say gaga’s peak was bigger than any and everything  like give it up. it’s okay, i promise. the fame/monster was released well over a decade ago.

[Steve Johnson]

38 minutes ago, WEEKND said:

You guys are letting nostalgia get in the way. Gaga at her peak wasn’t the biggest touring act Madonna was. She wasn’t the biggest digital seller Rihanna was. 
 

in 2023 Taylor is the queen of streaming the queen of touring and the reigning queen of the b200 and the hot 100 

 

how is that not bigger than whatever 99 cent deals Gaga had to make to clear 1M in a week. 

This totally. 

[Kill Me]

The one that is big enough to not fizzle out a couple years later...

[Steve Johnson]

35 minutes ago, HausOfPunk said:

It's funny how the Swifties like to claim that Taylor is some massive cultural force while Gaga has dropped off the face of the earth post-2012, when in fact this chart proves that their baseline level of relevance is about the same.

You really think Gaga has same relevance as Taylor these days? 

[Axelios]

44 minutes ago, HausOfPunk said:

It's funny how the Swifties like to claim that Taylor is some massive cultural force while Gaga has dropped off the face of the earth post-2012, when in fact this chart proves that their baseline level of relevance is about the same.

She did drop off the face of the Earth musically. Chromatica was a non event despite all the gimmicks and Shallow was just a fluke. She is not comparable to Taylor who had non stop success since 2006.

Edited May 19, 2023 by Axelios

[byzantium]

7 minutes ago, Steve Johnson said:

You really think Gaga has same relevance as Taylor these days? 

Let the monsters have this one.  They don’t have much else.  

[Kill Me]

Ofc little mistakes are bringing up wiki reciepts which peaked at nearly the same time as their fave's peak LMAO...

Taylor peaked in the age of Social Media and comparing her to hags who peaked in the dinosaur age is pitiful.

Reminder that Taylor was the most followed woman in IG during its hipster peak...

[FSXP]

US: Taylor 

WW: Gaga

 

I think Taylor’s peak in the US both times were bigger than Gaga. 1989 and Fearless both were inescapable in a way that I don’t think TF/TFM we’re here. But WW,  Gaga is definitely bigger.