Gwendolyn Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Turkey comeback year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaria Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 Kaarija stans already fuming on Twitter, let me bathe in their delicious tears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbhmatt Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 31 minutes ago, khalyan said: I wonder if they’ll do anything to decrease the jury percentage after this They should keep the juries but increase the number of jurors. I don’t see how the small number of people that the juries are currently made up of can be considered a fair & accurate representation of music industry professional opinion. Aren’t there like… 5 people in the jury? There needs to be more diverse opinions if we’re going to give their scores so much weight. Like… imagine if one jury is comprised of 5 white men all aged 50+? Some acts would *never* stand a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellenthin Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, karma police said: the way Sweden payola'd their way to the top Finland, the televote's winner can't and don't have to relate to these desperate antics And making a meme song isn't a desperate antic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 34 minutes ago, khalyan said: I wonder if they’ll do anything to decrease the jury percentage after this Imagine Beyoncé competes against BTS and loses because of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevesy Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Love Again said: Kaarija stans already fuming on Twitter, let me bathe in their delicious tears Girl go on Reddit for the real kii, just a tip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konril Posted May 13, 2023 Share Posted May 13, 2023 I'm just here for the return of 5x winner Luxembourg. 🇱🇺🇱🇺🇱🇺 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusional Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 7 minutes ago, Konril said: I'm just here for the return of 5x winner Luxembourg. 🇱🇺🇱🇺🇱🇺 And it’ll remain as that title! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylenaStan Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) A top 5 eurovision hit Edited May 14, 2023 by TaylenaStan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUA LIPA Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Queen Conchita said: EUROVISION SONG CONTEST 2024 SWEDEN Confirmed Countries well i guess u can add luxemburg to the confirmed countries list no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyWayne Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) Let's hope ErdoGONE loses the elections and we will see a Turkey comeback along with Luxembourg and the (alleged) Monaco and Macedonia comebacks Edited May 14, 2023 by JennyWayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miichael Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Such a great winner Congratulations Loreen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaledKalil Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 It's what she deserves. Congrats queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twittgoo Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) let's hope slovenia's vocalist returns without pants this time Edited May 14, 2023 by twittgoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miichael Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 30 minutes ago, tbhmatt said: They should keep the juries but increase the number of jurors. I don’t see how the small number of people that the juries are currently made up of can be considered a fair & accurate representation of music industry professional opinion. Aren’t there like… 5 people in the jury? There needs to be more diverse opinions if we’re going to give their scores so much weight. Like… imagine if one jury is comprised of 5 white men all aged 50+? Some acts would *never* stand a chance. Well a female woman of colour won the jury vote tonight so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimberly Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 47 minutes ago, tbhmatt said: Like… imagine if one jury is comprised of 5 white men all aged 50+? Some acts would *never* stand a chance. to be fair most of these participating countries are like >90% white but yeah I get what you're saying, more jurors would bring is more diversity in opinions. the complaint with jury I don't understand is I feel like some people want the jury vote to be exact/similar to the public vote... but the whole point of the jury is to reward technical performance, songwriting, and composition as opposed to the public who watches Eurovision while getting shitfaced drunk and vote for the most camp/ridiculous performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Conchita Posted May 14, 2023 Author Share Posted May 14, 2023 37 minutes ago, DUA LIPA said: well i guess u can add luxemburg to the confirmed countries list no? yeee there's a few confirmed ATRL crashed so i couldn't edit x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karma police Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonturn Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, kimberly said: to be fair most of these participating countries are like >90% white but yeah I get what you're saying, more jurors would bring is more diversity in opinions. the complaint with jury I don't understand is I feel like some people want the jury vote to be exact/similar to the public vote... but the whole point of the jury is to reward technical performance, songwriting, and composition as opposed to the public who watches Eurovision while getting shitfaced drunk and vote for the most camp/ridiculous performance. Problem is, they don't. They would literally always vote for the 08/15 pop songs and would engange in political voting. The juries are absolutely pointless at this point. The Semis this year proved very well that 100% televote brings out absolutely reasonable results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonTiger Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 the best song won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimberly Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Moonturn said: Problem is, they don't. They would literally always vote for the 08/15 pop songs and would engange in political voting. The juries are absolutely pointless at this point. The Semis this year proved very well that 100% televote brings out absolutely reasonable results. I disagree, having juries would have likely resulted in Latvia qualifying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZIVERT Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 I hope we have a mass Balkan return next year. Imagine if Macedonia, Montenegro, AND Bosnia was able to come back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted May 14, 2023 ATRL Moderator Share Posted May 14, 2023 I hope Sweden can use some of their payola coins on incentives for the other countries to come back because I'd love a big contest after this one being relatively small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevesy Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 I still want TaP to handle the UK selection. Mae was not a bad choice by any means. I actually think she was screwed since we were hosting and tbh the song is better for the radio, not to watch a performance of. If that makes any sense. The performance wasn’t that great vocally either. We will send a male artist again with some jury bait. The excitement in the UK was amazing to see and I don’t want Mae’s result + the jury/public discourse to set us back to what we were in the 2010s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimberly Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 15 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: I hope we have a mass Balkan return next year. Imagine if Macedonia, Montenegro, AND Bosnia was able to come back Bulgaria too and Turkey when they elect a new president tomorrow I want Eurovision to go back up to 42-43 contestants with tougher semi finals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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