igninton Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) Quote “The EBU has introduced a series of changes to the Junior Eurovision 2023 rules. It specifies that the performances on stage must be carried out live. In addition, no processor will be allowed for pitch corrections or full-screen insertion of video clips as part of stage performances.” This would be the first time that pre-recorded vocals are banned at Junior Eurovision. https://wiwibloggs.com/2023/05/31/junior-eurovision-2023-all-vocals-must-be-performed-live/277573/ No more backing tracks allowed girlies. This is BIG. I'm sure ESC 2024 will adapt this rule too, this was just introduced by the EBU and I just know some delegations are shaking from not being able to reproduce the shenanigans we've seen for the past 3 years. Edited June 5, 2023 by igninton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjorn Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 21 minutes ago, igninton said: https://wiwibloggs.com/2023/05/31/junior-eurovision-2023-all-vocals-must-be-performed-live/277573/ No more backing tracks allowed girlies. This is BIG. I'm sure ESC 2024 will adapt this rule too, this was just introduced by the EBU and I just know some delegations are shaking from not being able to reproduce the shenanigans we've seen for the past 3 years. Some “singers” are shaking in their boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevesy Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I am indifferent to backing tracks. It opens up the genre of music a bit but I also like the limitations because it forces creative staging, especially paired with the 6 people on-stage limit. I love seeing the backup dancers sing tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanspears Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, igninton said: https://wiwibloggs.com/2023/05/31/junior-eurovision-2023-all-vocals-must-be-performed-live/277573/ No more backing tracks allowed girlies. This is BIG. I'm sure ESC 2024 will adapt this rule too, this was just introduced by the EBU and I just know some delegations are shaking from not being able to reproduce the shenanigans we've seen for the past 3 years. This is a bit cruel on the kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZIVERT Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, igninton said: https://wiwibloggs.com/2023/05/31/junior-eurovision-2023-all-vocals-must-be-performed-live/277573/ No more backing tracks allowed girlies. This is BIG. I'm sure ESC 2024 will adapt this rule too, this was just introduced by the EBU and I just know some delegations are shaking from not being able to reproduce the shenanigans we've seen for the past 3 years. I honestly hate this rule. Imagine songs like Cha Cha Cha, In Corpore Sano, or Qami Qami with 100% vocals? It would be less powerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igninton Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 35 minutes ago, nathanspears said: This is a bit cruel on the kids 31 minutes ago, ZIVERT said: I honestly hate this rule. Imagine songs like Cha Cha Cha, In Corpore Sano, or Qami Qami with 100% vocals? It would be less powerful They'll just have to get backing singers to do the live backing track which is not really that hard to do and it's how it used to be prior to 2020. Doesn't mean that voice effects aren't allowed so they'll just have to focus more on putting on a LIVE performance rather than a choreographed lip sync for your life with occasional live vocals, me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illia Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I don't mind backing tracks being banned but ONLY as long as the number of people on stage will be more than 6 The huge ESC stages look so empty with 2 back-vocalists and only 3 dancers + 1 singer Are we in the 60s or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkAway Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 I don't mind the backing track but too many people abused it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZIVERT Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, igninton said: They'll just have to get backing singers to do the live backing track which is not really that hard to do and it's how it used to be prior to 2020. Doesn't mean that voice effects aren't allowed so they'll just have to focus more on putting on a LIVE performance rather than a choreographed lip sync for your life with occasional live vocals, me thinks. I know that’s how it was before, but I didn’t like it then either. For example, Saara Alto’s Monsters performance was ruined by the squeaky background singers trying to replicate the children’s-chorus vocal effect right before the drop. It made the performance and song sound cheap, so I’m not looking forward to more of this Unrelated note, I’m lowkey excited for Israel to return to this NF concept. It was so unique and fun https://twitter.com/escdiscord/status/1665633624799019010?s=46&t=jV5qWZ2-WAmndCkzDaNIIg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mordecai Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Thank god for that. I don't mind prerecorded vocals being used for stylistic purposes like In corpore sano and I would hope that the EBU would consider them in some capacity for that reason but some artists have been straight up fraudulent using them. Plus imo it makes performances a bit too manufactured, people need to stop trying to recreate music videos onstage and just deliver a good performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted June 5, 2023 ATRL Moderator Share Posted June 5, 2023 I wish there was a way to still allow/encourage the originality that comes with performances like In Corpore Sano or Cha Cha Cha but be able to penalize entries like Cyprus this year for their blatant lip syncing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola Bracho Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, khalyan said: I wish there was a way to still allow/encourage the originality that comes with performances like In Corpore Sano or Cha Cha Cha but be able to penalize entries like Cyprus this year for their blatant lip syncing. So "clowns + lip syncing" >>>> "lip syncing"? ok! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted June 5, 2023 ATRL Moderator Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Paola Bracho said: So "clowns + lip syncing" >>>> "lip syncing"? ok! I could always hear the vocals being performed by Kaarija and Konstrakta (outside of Konstrakta's intro) There were times were I could not hear any vocals being performed by Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimberly Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 3 hours ago, ZIVERT said: Unrelated note, I’m lowkey excited for Israel to return to this NF concept. It was so unique and fun https://twitter.com/escdiscord/status/1665633624799019010?s=46&t=jV5qWZ2-WAmndCkzDaNIIg I remember when the US tried to make this show a thing, Kesha was one of the judges. It wasn't bad but it didn't take off. I think they thought they could replace X-Factor USA but that show died for a reason. So they've only ever done that one season over the summer of 2014. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rising_Star_(American_TV_series) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gogetonthebus Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 4 hours ago, khalyan said: I wish there was a way to still allow/encourage the originality that comes with performances like In Corpore Sano or Cha Cha Cha but be able to penalize entries like Cyprus this year for their blatant lip syncing. I would almost rather them just go back to live vocals again, since it's so hard to create a consistent rule around this. I know they de-emphasized the vocal performance in the jury instructions this year, but I wish there was like a consideration for 'Use of Effects' or something that did what you said: Penalize lip syncing and promote creative use of effects. I wouldn't trust this stodgy group of jury members to effectively apply it though. Juries should be larger and much more 'expert' and more diverse in expertise overall also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fevesy Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Unicorns get in here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abelfenty Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Fevesy said: Unicorns get in here! The way this is better than Unicorn. We were truly robbed of seeing her perform a Hebrew BOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anti-bitch Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Lol, the Danish twink dropped a new song too. I think this is better than his ESC song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anti-bitch Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 On 6/5/2023 at 12:38 AM, JennyWayne said: The way this entry ended the rest of the competition in 2001 (and Helena's solo entry in 2005 too) I love the mix of traditional Greek instruments with Swedish pop production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 The way Nina allegedly had a meltdown and changed the entire concept before the jury show Still one of my fave Croatian entries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 On 6/5/2023 at 2:53 PM, khalyan said: but be able to penalize entries like Cyprus this year for their blatant lip syncing. Wasn’t there a mic feed that proved Andrew absolutely killed it vocally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiercE Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 4 hours ago, Hurem said: Wasn’t there a mic feed that proved Andrew absolutely killed it vocally? This one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 59 minutes ago, fiercE said: This one? The one I saw was one Twitter with much clearer feed. You can still hear backing vocals in this one. That being said, his backing vocals were too loud for sure, but it was not to hide his vocal abilities cause the guy can sing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted June 8, 2023 ATRL Moderator Share Posted June 8, 2023 https://twitter.com/amyf67/status/1666479730533580800?s=46&t=6YFDEg1nFEg89AEouG3A3w Cha Cha Cha (Alan Walker Remix) coming soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrantino Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Israel 2017 singer Imri came out as gay..shocking also, I just read that Marija Šerifović and Slavko Kalezić (Montenegro 2017 hair ghey) pretended to be a couple after her victory at Eurovision, is that true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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