album Kylie Minogue - 'Tension'

[helen2U]

2 hours ago, Dante Silva said:

Uh huh, but that was followed up with @RideOrDie’s comment (from the last page) in which they defined it as originating from the “X” era and intimated the full track is 3 mins, 37 secs in duration.

I apologize as I didn't see that one or forgot.

[RT Air]

42 minutes ago, Dante Silva said:

The public want LOSTBOY productions, not Biff Stannard. It’s natural to expect a first single to offer a glimpse of what further musical riches await the listener once they take that next step and invest in listening to an album.
 

Every creative who is attached to a big pop girl has his time and then burns out, it happened to William Baker and now it’s happened to Biff Stannard. “Tension” (the song) was a nice try but he didn’t offer the hot fresh sounds todays youth expect.

 

The zeitgeist has simply moved on and left Biff behind.

Kylie has been lowkey criticized among fans for a while for ‘settling for a Radio 2 audience’, but I think the only thing this era proved is that Team Kylie were actually right, and her album buying audience is indeed not the same as the one songs like Padam Padam or Tension appeals to. I do not believe for one second that she would have shifted more copies had there been more Lostboy productions on there, in fact her album buying demographic probably would have preferred Hold On To Now as the 2nd single.

 

Having said that, I am glad things turned out this way, because both Padam Padam and Tension are among Kylie’s finest singles ever, and singles success was long overdue for her.

[Antpamps]

Anyone have a zip file of the highest quality for all the outtakes of tension? Please and thank you! 

[ithinkheknowsoutsold]

Wait was Cheryl's Crazy Stupid Love meant for Kylie? Do we have a demo of her version?

[Frozen99]

5 hours ago, Dante Silva said:

Regarding, “Running” what are people’s thoughts on it here? Any time I cross paths with ahem.. older gheys, who possibly grew up when that style of production was a thing, all I hear is (and I paraphrase) “OMG that song is giving me life, she must have been on meth to put Hands on the album instead of that”.

 

Does that style of production really speak to those who are not decrepit?

is that condescending tone really necessary? the consensus is that majority loves the song and i seriously doubt the majority of kylie's fans here on atrl are decrepit.

 

4 hours ago, Dante Silva said:

There may be alt. versions of some tracks nestled amongst the remixes on Disc 2, with a couple of features, whom I suspect may (or may not) include Ellie Goulding, Troye Sivan and Cher.

 

they literally abandoned the era the week it dropped.. we don't even have a 3rd single  doubt they will invest any more, she's already talking about future albums...

 

5 hours ago, MilanY said:

why are u guys so sure that we are getting BL20 at all? in november is release od Kylie35, I dont think there will be BL re realese this year.

i was looking for info since everyone is treating the information as official but all i saw was the self-titled 35 anniversary.

 

7 hours ago, Popboi. said:

I think we’re getting more content for BL20 than we did for the anniversary releases of Fever and Impossible Princess, would explain why so many outtakes from it leaking recently too.

one LQ leak makes you think we'll get more? imo we'll be lucky if we get a re-pressing at all.

[helen2U]

36 minutes ago, Antpamps said:

Anyone have a zip file of the highest quality for all the outtakes of tension? Please and thank you! 

I can send what I have

[Dante Silva]

40 minutes ago, Frozen99 said:

is that condescending tone really necessary? the consensus is that majority loves the song and i seriously doubt the majority of kylie's fans here on atrl are decrepit.

 

 

It doesn’t take a genius to work out the reason I asked how younger demographics feel about “Running” is because I’ve mostly seen older gays praising it based purely on the fact its production style seems to make older gays feel nostalgic for a certain production style that was popular in chart music during their youth. 
 

I was merely trying to establish whether it has universal appeal to those who don’t feel nostalgic for that production.

 

Also, Ellie Goulding is a lot less in demand than Dua Lipa nowadays yet Ellie somehow gets by being considered in vaguely the same bracket as Dua, so it’s hardly unrealistic at all.

 

 

Edited October 18, 2023 by Dante Silva

[HonourableVomit]

5 hours ago, Mitsouko said:

Can't believe this album had a Top 10 hit and another Top 20, and Disco still outsold and outcharted wtf

 

Disco: 1-5-10-7-19-19-23-33-43-60-65

Tension: 1-8-36

Disco ate that hard? Wow 

[John Slayne]

not Disco charting higher in its 8th week than Tension in its 3rd 

 

she needs to release Hold On To Now, NOW!

[John Slayne]

8 hours ago, Dante Silva said:

Regarding, “Running” what are people’s thoughts on it here? Any time I cross paths with ahem.. older gheys, who possibly grew up when that style of production was a thing, all I hear is (and I paraphrase) “OMG that song is giving me life, she must have been on meth to put Hands on the album instead of that”.

 

Does that style of production really speak to those who are not decrepit?

I'm a young gay and I actually think Hands and Running are both good. I would actually love to have Drum and Running on the album over some other songs, but it is what it is.

[Antpamps]

2 hours ago, helen2U said:

I can send what I have

Yes please!  I messaged!

[John Slayne]

On 10/17/2023 at 11:22 PM, stupidjock said:

your reception few weeks after release?

tbh I only listen to a few songs. I feel like I was obsessed with Disco more at this point, it works better as an album and has less filler than Tension. Tension has pretty much only the singles, Hold On To Now, Vegas High, and Hands. the rest is fine, but nothing to write home about.

[Achilles.]

Does Kylie’s label know that Somebody to Love is going to spend ten weeks at #1 on AC radio?

 

[Dante Silva]

On 10/17/2023 at 11:22 PM, stupidjock said:

more Tension posts please

 

 

chart position? sales? upcoming single? tour tea? your reception few weeks after release?

I saw somewhere that the album is the 15th best selling album of the year and has gone silver. I was a little surprised that it came in at 59k and never quite broke the 60k of “Disco” in its first week.

 

She has a view (and there is truth to it), that fans like her to have one foot in the past and one in the present and I think this album is a reasonably successful attempt at her channeling that expectation in to her music.

 

I know certain ‘plot tracks’ of classic hits were banded about in the studio as reference points for certain tracks on the album.

 

This being a reference point for “Things We Do For Love”.

 

This being a reference point for

 “You Still Get Me High”.

 

This being a reference point for “Story”.

If I’m disappointed in the numbers the album is doing, I put that down to a continuing trend of diminishing album sales patterns for all but the largest international superstars of this time period.

 

I personally am not particularly nostalgic for music of the 1980’s (any nostalgia I may have for music from that time period, is not for the songs Kylie and her team identified as being reference points) and it’s my personal view that Kylie’s natural home is ‘dance pop’ as opposed to just ‘pop’.

 

I would have preferred the default reference point across the album to have been 90’s house and 00’s trance, with more focus on that (and practically no influences from 80’s pop).

 

As Kylie went off on an experimental tangent in the early 90’s after leaving SAW, she largely sidestepped the commercial dance trends of that time period (that would have been a perfect fit for her) and I don’t think she’s truly gone there since. Instead engaging with the campery of “Light Years” when she finally decided to re-embrace the mainstream.

 

There is an argument that she channeled dance music a little more on “Fever”, but not to the extent I would have liked.

 

It is my understanding that Kylie’s team have been caught a little off guard by what they consider to be the underwhelming performance on streaming of “Hold On To Now”, as it has been a default contender for single all through this album campaign cycle.

 

Alternatively, the overwhelmingly positive reception to “Story” was not something anyone saw coming, but I still believe her team have a fixed view that HOTN is a safe choice, a view they have held ever since the album was still in production and are having a hard time considering that it might not be the best choice, given that they had a lot of faith in that track for months prior to the public reveal of the album launch.

 

Who knows what they are going to do in the end, but it’s the not knowing that (in part) continues to make this album campaign interesting and one day in the distant future decisions taken in the present era, will be viewed in direct context of the overarching legacy of Kylie’s singles discography as a whole.

 

Overall (for me) the album is okay, I understand why they took the direction they took but I find the production a little claustrophobic and too much ‘on the nose’.

Edited October 19, 2023 by Dante Silva

[Popboi.]

Situation with DISCO was much different though, it benefited from Christmas sales (and Kylie is the type of artist that sells pure sales - so getting a boost), and the third and fourth weeks were helped by late shipments of the webstore deluxe CD and the Amazon exclusive vinyl. Also it was during the second UK lockdown, she was giving the perfect album for escapism and competition was rather slow as not many artists had albums ready to go.

 

After the Christmas sales, the album collapsed until the re-release gave it a couple more weeks. Then most of it's sales came from streams after it exited the chart, because yes she gets some streams but not enough to fight back the total chart domination of Greatest Hits or younger artists, but they're not negligible to the point the album is dead in the water when not top 100. Her team is probably expecting catalogue streams alone to push Tension to Gold (it will 100% happen) cause otherwise can't tell what their approach is.

[Kern]

Loving all the tea here 

[campelo]

has any demos leaked after that big tension sessions leak?

[helen2U]

18 minutes ago, campelo said:

has any demos leaked after that big tension sessions leak?

there were a few, like colour my life from BL era

[Frozen99]

12 hours ago, Dante Silva said:

It doesn’t take a genius to work out the reason I asked how younger demographics feel about “Running” is because I’ve mostly seen older gays praising it based purely on the fact its production style seems to make older gays feel nostalgic for a certain production style that was popular in chart music during their youth. 
 

I was merely trying to establish whether it has universal appeal to those who don’t feel nostalgic for that production.

 

Also, Ellie Goulding is a lot less in demand than Dua Lipa nowadays yet Ellie somehow gets by being considered in vaguely the same bracket as Dua, so it’s hardly unrealistic at all.

again with the condescending tone  well you genius, we answered you that people of all ages love running because it's actually an amazing song, if older gays enjoy it because of nostalgia, good for them.

 

that random jab at ellie with the dua comparison  anyway, what's unrealistic is the fact you think they'll do anything when they left the album the week after it dropped. 4 discs and a cher collab...

 

[Dante Silva]

55 minutes ago, Frozen99 said:

again with the condescending tone  well you genius, we answered you that people of all ages love running because it's actually an amazing song, if older gays enjoy it because of nostalgia, good for them.

 

that random jab at ellie with the dua comparison  anyway, what's unrealistic is the fact you think they'll do anything when they left the album the week after it dropped. 4 discs and a cher collab...

 

Look, there’s obviously an undertone to your posts and it’s got nothing to do with Kylie.  I’m not interested in processing your toxicity. Kylie is many things to many people and we are each free to have and express our own opinions about individual aspects of her work and history.

 

I’m kind of expecting you to have an issue with any opinion I have of Kylie at this point but you really shouldn’t let opinions that contrast to your own get to you so much, it’s absolutely nothing personal.

 

The facts are there is a remix package for ‘Tension’ (the single) dropping tonight and the knowledge there is at least one other music video that has been filmed (and presently held back from release), makes it pretty clear they never “dropped the album the week after it dropped” at all.
 

That you couldn’t be bothered to properly define and extrapolate what you were trying (and failing) to express with regard to a specific, other artist last time tells me all I need to know. 
 

And as for condescending, it really is quite egotistical, not to mention a poor usage of grammar to use the word ‘we’ in reference to yourself.

Edited October 19, 2023 by Dante Silva

[helen2U]

24 minutes ago, Dante Silva said:

Look, there’s obviously an undertone to your posts and it’s got nothing to do with Kylie.  I’m not interested in processing your toxicity. Kylie is many things to many people and we are each free to have and express our own opinions about individual aspects of her work and history.

 

I’m kind of expecting you to have an issue with any opinion I have of Kylie at this point but you really shouldn’t let opinions that contrast to your own get to you so much, it’s absolutely nothing personal.
 

The fact you couldn’t be bothered to properly define and extrapolate what you were trying (and failing) to express with regard to a specific, other artist last time tells me all I need to know. 
 

And as for condescending, it really is egotistical to use the word ‘we’ in reference to yourself.

I stand by RUNNING as absolutely fabulous and I am unfortunately straight but an ally to all LGTBQIA, so we as in there's plenty of folks here who love it, and hello, who've both been on freakin repeat since I found 'em. God bless whom leaked 'em

[Dante Silva]

11 hours ago, John Slayne said:

I'm a young gay and I actually think Hands and Running are both good. I would actually love to have Drum and Running on the album over some other songs, but it is what it is.

 

36 minutes ago, helen2U said:

I stand by RUNNING as absolutely fabulous and I am unfortunately straight but an ally to all LGTBQIA, so we as in there's plenty of folks here who love it, and hello, who've both been on freakin repeat since I found 'em. God bless whom leaked 'em

Thank you both kindly for your responses. This track does appear to have become something of a barometer in terms of how this specific album era relates to different demographics in the wider fanbase and I suspect the now apparent, universal love of this track, will help Kylie’s team plot the way forward in context of what production flavors to cherry pick (and exclude) from a provisional re-pack next spring.

[BraveNewSeth]

Running never really clicked for me until the final version leaked. It’s definitely a bop, but I prefer other Tension outtakes more (Hello, Water, Stars In Our Eyes, More Than A Feeling…).

[voiceofTreason]

Only leaks I'd tag on Xtension is More than a feeling and Unlimited Love. Maybe Water too but that's it. Running is cute too but doesn't really fit the album

[Dante Silva]

I know we’ve heard “Go To” (and obviously nobody is impressed with that), but the other unreleased ‘Tension’ material that partly comes from that locked file is certainly stacking up:

 

 

I assume “Heart Of Gold” and “Just My Luck” are from the same sessions.