base talk Does ATRL put too much on focus on daily streams of old songs on Spotify?

[Click Clack]

4 hours ago, Donquizote said:

No. 

Only stans with faves who dont have classic will think so

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[Erreur2 La Nature]

It honestly makes zero sense to even look at streams for songs that were released prior like... 2017

[Gaia]

Streaming is carried and too heavily influenced by playlisting. It makes it a meaningless thing to track honestly. When a song is getting 1M recurrent streams as a 10 year old song but has a playlist reach of 150M then it's not impressive

 

If a song is getting 1M daily streams with like 5M playlisting THEN it's impressive. 

Edited May 4, 2023 by Gaia

[Hector]

 

The posters that weaponize streams just for the purpose of trolling in particular. Streams don't change the fact that songs were classics well before them. 

[Badgalbriel]

15 minutes ago, Erreur2 La Nature said:

It honestly makes zero sense to even look at streams for songs that were released prior like... 2017

What? 2017 is pretty much waaaay into the streaming era. 

[Bey_Rihstan]

It’s a good indicator for what songs are remembered but not a good indication of a classic. 
 

Like Square Biz is a huge classic and I’m sure it doesn’t have a million streams per day

[Armani?]

2 minutes ago, Bey_Rihstan said:

It’s a good indicator for what songs are remembered but not a good indication of a classic. 
 

Like Square Biz is a huge classic and I’m sure it doesn’t have a million streams per day

Square Biz is a local niche classic

 

It's guaranteed bigger on Apple Music than Spotify

 

It might be near Platinum eligible from the streaming/digital era units

[FSXP]

Yes, but I also argue adding streaming metrics to albums like pre-2016 is absolutely crazy. That’s like adding digital song sales to an album that was released in 1991.

[Oktober Knight]

Absolutely. 

It's a joke when they compare 80s and 90s songs to a recent hit and claim that's confirmation enough that the current song is bigger. Like that's not how it works, we had to rely strictly on radio, MTV, and pure physical sales back then. 

[Bey_Rihstan]

28 minutes ago, Armani? said:

Square Biz is a local niche classic

 

It's guaranteed bigger on Apple Music than Spotify

 

It might be near Platinum eligible from the streaming/digital era units

Exactly 

 

which dismantles the white washed theory that Spotify streams makes a classic 

[Vrx.]

I mean what are the thresholds? Seems like there’s no definition of what the ideal amount is to define a classic per decade/era

Edited May 4, 2023 by Vrx.

[Mystic Boy]

It remains a good indication of which songs stood the test of time BUT for a long period not just few weeks cause it went viral at one point.

[Mr. Duff]

The daily streams say something of course, but there are so much different other factors to gauge a song's longevity. With massive CD/vinyl/digital sales, some classic songs will struggle to get streams because they are still being played on CDs/record players/iTunes. The playlisting is also a factor that we cannot absolutely determine how impactful to certain classic songs. And possibly hundred more factors.