poll Who's more of a legend: Taylor Swift or Beyoncé?

[Rev8]

Yea, what is this about awards,sales,grosses etc?

This isn't about who is playing the game better and more, this is about who is more of a Legend.

 

I like them both tho

so..I guess one is a Legend of success

while the other is more of a Legend of influence ?

[Bears01]

42 minutes ago, Bonicap said:

The one that has more sales, more streams and more touring demand. The rest are just opinions and undefined concepts.

So, by your metrics, Taylor swift is a bigger legend than people like Stevie Wonder, Aretha Franklin, and Prince…. Gay pop Stan’s aren’t qualified whatsoever to determine who’s a legend 

[Gorjesspazze9]

Taylor is obviously gonna be the biggest female artist behind Madonna at the end of the day. Beyoncé is more of a Legend now because she has twice the Longevity.  there is a difference 

[FolkLover1989]

5 minutes ago, blackoutbaby said:

The way this isn’t even true

 

Y’all just come on atrl and lie. Show actual receipts and numbers before you wanna claim this.

Was Bey at Age 33 getting 1m+ debuts and 700m gross tour just in US?

[QueenBeyoncé]

Taylor would also say Beyoncé, she’s a fan 

[FolkLover1989]

The so called impace , legendary carrer blah blah

 

Multiple Countries President, In Latam , Asia etc.. are referencing Taylor  

She is breaking every record possible

Tour demand is insane

Her tracks are more famous than Beyonce's singles 

 

 

But as per atrl Beyonce is legend lol

[Feanor]

9 minutes ago, blackoutbaby said:

The way this isn’t even true

 

Y’all just come on atrl and lie. Show actual receipts and numbers before you wanna claim this.

Sure.

 

 

In 2014, when Beyoncé was 32/33 years old, she was less successful than Katy Perry and Taylor Swift, in addition to several male acts. Ditto touring-wise, where she was behind Katy and other male acts as well.

 

 

 

In 2022, when Taylor herself was 32/33 years old, no one was bigger than her. Not a female artist, not a male artist, not any group. And the success of her current tour is known widely.

 

When Beyoncé was Taylor's age, she was just one of the lesser artists in the game. But Taylor is the game. That's the difference.

Edited April 29, 2023 by Feanor

[GoatGly]

Stupid thread both are legends obviously 

[Phaunzie]

Beyonce clearly.

[Otter]

53 minutes ago, GardenPanty said:

 

Midnights first week sales - 1.14mil

Renaissance first week sales - 332k

 

I must say it's quite impressive that Taylor Swift is outselling legends

It is mainly because Taylor also debuted a long ago. But go to the definition of Legend and it's not "artist with highest sales" although that in itself can be legendary.

 

I don't think Taylor and Bey need to compete in this category, these are subjective things to different demographics. I literally was not exposed to Taylor's music until 1989 and Reputation was kind of a massive decline and Lover never really got started. 

[byzantium]

Both are legends and the two biggest female artists of the last 25 years.  I can see why fans of other girls who can only dream of similar careers want to attack these two.  

[Chris]

Very original thread.

[FolkLover1989]

8 minutes ago, Feanor said:

Sure.

 

 

In 2014, when Beyoncé was 32/33 years old, she was less successful than Katy Perry and Taylor Swift, in addition to several male acts. Ditto touring-wise, where she was behind Katy and other male acts as well.

 

 

 

In 2022, when Taylor herself was 32/33 years old, no one was bigger than her. Not a female artist, not a male artist, not any group. And the success of her current tour is known widely.

 

When Beyoncé was Taylor's age, she was just one of the lesser artists in the game. But Taylor is the game. That's the difference.

Many artists over the year had longevity

But very few like Madonna and Taylor were able to dominate the landscape 

Beyonce solo career started like 3-4 years before Taylor's but I don't see Taylor slowing down to Bey level in that same timeframe

[XAMJ]

I would have said Beyonce but this year without a doubt shows its Taylor.

[Otter]

13 minutes ago, Feanor said:

Sure.

 

 

In 2014, when Beyoncé was 32/33 years old, she was less successful than Katy Perry and Taylor Swift, in addition to several male acts. Ditto touring-wise, where she was behind Katy and other male acts as well.

 

 

 

In 2022, when Taylor herself was 32/33 years old, no one was bigger than her. Not a female artist, not a male artist, not any group. And the success of her current tour is known widely.

 

When Beyoncé was Taylor's age, she was just one of the lesser artists in the game. But Taylor is the game. That's the difference.

Edit: you correctly changed your statement about her being one of the lessor acts of the time.

 

She was number 10 IFPI's global album list of 2023 with just a few weeks sales. But yeah her decided maltreatment of single let her down in overall ranking, but doesn't take the achievements elsewhere 

Edited April 29, 2023 by Otter

[BGKC]

Beyoncé. 

[Bonicap]

11 minutes ago, Bears01 said:

So, by your metrics, Taylor swift is a bigger legend than people like Stevie Wonder, Aretha Franklin, and Prince…. Gay pop Stan’s aren’t qualified whatsoever to determine who’s a legend 

On the other hand you are qualified to determine who is a legend, based on your opinion and feelings. Commercial success is a measurable metric just like in sports they use statistics instead of choosing the one who is a bigger celebrity. Facts and numbers.

[Taylena]

10 minutes ago, GoatGly said:

Stupid thread both are legends obviously 

 

2 minutes ago, byzantium said:

Both are legends and the two biggest female artists of the last 25 years.  I can see why fans of other girls who can only dream of similar careers want to attack these two.  

[The Music Industry]

Taylor on a global scale, of course. Especially in Asia where most of the world lives

[elincomprendid]

Oh someone created the weekly "impact" thread thanks for reminding us how beyhive has no actual stats to justify beyonce's status other than "impact"

[The Music Industry]

1 minute ago, elincomprendid said:

Oh someone created the weekly "impact" thread thanks for reminding us how beyhive has no actual stats to justify beyonce's status other than "impact"

It's the way they know they can't use "who's bigger" because the answer would be too obvious so instead they use terms like "who's more of a legend"

[Devin]

Not #that Swiftie in here acting up again.

 

Mind u when Taylor reach Bey’s age them streams and sales are gonna wrinkle and dry up like her skin. And the NEXT sad white girl will blossom. 

[BGKC]

2 minutes ago, Bonicap said:

On the other hand you are qualified to determine who is a legend, based on your opinion and feelings. Commercial success is a measurable metric just like in sports they use statistics instead of choosing the one who is a bigger celebrity. Facts and numbers.

Beyoncé was the lead singer of one of the best selling girl groups of all time on top of her incredible solo career as the biggest black touring act of all

time. There’s facts and numbers as well as what one does for the culture, which is where Beyoncé excels. 

[Axelios]

3 minutes ago, Devin said:

Not #that Swiftie in here acting up again.

 

Mind u when Taylor reach Bey’s age them streams and sales are gonna wrinkle and dry up like her skin. And the NEXT sad white girl will blossom. 

It doesn't really matter. Taylor already surpassed Beyonce whole career despite having shorter time. She could retire tomorrow and she would still remain bigger. In fact, Bey at 33 was nowhere close to how succesful Taylor currently is.

[45seconds]

1 hour ago, Bonicap said:

The one that has more sales, more streams and more touring demand. The rest are just opinions and undefined concepts.

So Katy Perry is more of a legend than Aretha Franklin?  Help me understand your logic bonicap