Selegend Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 Beyonce is the bigger legend. Taylor is coming (as a legend -- cuz "out of this world successful" she already is) in a way we wouldn't expect until Folklore tho. Since that she's becoming more and more a legend with every move she makes.
Brikenbur Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Robyn. said: When will some of you understand that no regular person has any knowledge on numbers, sales, chart runs, etc. I highly doubt someone would use sales as a metric, the truth is it's all about image and status. And Beyoncé has solidified her status with consistent success, quality and acclaim while proving herself as one of the best performers of all time throughout the entirety of 20+ years of career. No one will reference Beyoncé as the girl who sold 300k first week with Renaissance, because it's not what people remember. /endthread
Vrx. Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 Beyoncé, with ease Shes influenced a lot of people in terms of vocal ability and performance. KPop alone sites her along with Tinashe (whom she has influenced as well) as major inspirations for their performances. Taylor has sold a lot yes, but her contemporaries don’t really site her as an influence. Beyoncé is respected amongst critics, artists, and the public.
Glam Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 Beyonce isn't the most legendary artist of our time. But she's more legendary than T-Swfit.
vuelve88 Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 Taylor She doesn’t have the same queen image and media narrative around her, and that’s intentional. Most prolific Pop songwriter of her generation.
Kingdom Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 17 minutes ago, vuelve88 said: Taylor She doesn’t have the same queen image and media narrative around her, and that’s intentional. Most prolific Pop songwriter of her generation. Taylor cares more about her image and pushes more narrative about herself than any other artist. She also can't sing, a terrible performer. The media isn't going to go crazy over a non-singing offbeat dancing girl.
BGKC Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) Im surprised this is still going on… like Destiny’s child alone was a major flex whether you want to separate that piece from Bey’s career or not. She carried the group and led on to major things as a solo artist. Everything about Beyoncé is just a staple in black culture. Taylor is clearly the biggest thing to cross over from country to pop music, but idk, Beyoncé had a this phase where she was the go to in regards to covering/tributing all the greats be it Barbara, Prince, MJ, Etta, Tina etc etc. she was pushed as the all around standard entertainer ever since she went solo. Sales are one thing, but it’s not as if Bey kept it safe and cute for the teenie boppers in the last 10+ years. Conservatives absolutely hate her (from doing bold moves Taylor never in a million years would ever risk doing unless one is willing to argue that her reputation era was riskier than something like tributing black panther at the superbowl). There’s just certain things that pink twinks will scoff and belittle as an irrelevant factor when talking about cultural impact, but the fact will always remain on a global scale… Bey has risked 10x as much as an artist compared to Taylor, who is the queen of keeping it just safe enough with a butter knife edge. That “conservative” demographic is something Taylor has always benefitted from in a way that Beyoncé absolutely doesn’t, but I if you wanna push that that as something worth bragging about when it comes to “the GP” then go ahead… ATRL and their obsession with the “GP” will always be a self drag in itself though. Edited May 4, 2023 by BGKC 5 1
Mystic Boy Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 2 hours ago, BGKC said: Im surprised this is still going on… like Destiny’s child alone was a major flex whether you want to separate that piece from Bey’s career or not. She carried the group and led on to major things as a solo artist. Everything about Beyoncé is just a staple in black culture. Taylor is clearly the biggest thing to cross over from country to pop music, but idk, Beyoncé had a this phase where she was the go to in regards to covering/tributing all the greats be it Barbara, Prince, MJ, Etta, Tina etc etc. she was pushed as the all around standard entertainer ever since she went solo. Sales are one thing, but it’s not as if Bey kept it safe and cute for the teenie boppers in the last 10+ years. Conservatives absolutely hate her (from doing bold moves Taylor never in a million years would ever risk doing unless one is willing to argue that her reputation era was riskier than something like tributing black panther at the superbowl). There’s just certain things that pink twinks will scoff and belittle as an irrelevant factor when talking about cultural impact, but the fact will always remain on a global scale… Bey has risked 10x as much as an artist compared to Taylor, who is the queen of keeping it just safe enough with a butter knife edge. That “conservative” demographic is something Taylor has always benefitted from in a way that Beyoncé absolutely doesn’t, but I if you wanna push that that as something worth bragging about when it comes to “the GP” then go ahead… ATRL and their obsession with the “GP” will always be a self drag in itself though.
Not Like The Movies Posted May 5, 2023 Posted May 5, 2023 On 5/4/2023 at 1:11 AM, BGKC said: Im surprised this is still going on… like Destiny’s child alone was a major flex whether you want to separate that piece from Bey’s career or not. She carried the group and led on to major things as a solo artist. Everything about Beyoncé is just a staple in black culture. Taylor is clearly the biggest thing to cross over from country to pop music, but idk, Beyoncé had a this phase where she was the go to in regards to covering/tributing all the greats be it Barbara, Prince, MJ, Etta, Tina etc etc. she was pushed as the all around standard entertainer ever since she went solo. Sales are one thing, but it’s not as if Bey kept it safe and cute for the teenie boppers in the last 10+ years. Conservatives absolutely hate her (from doing bold moves Taylor never in a million years would ever risk doing unless one is willing to argue that her reputation era was riskier than something like tributing black panther at the superbowl). There’s just certain things that pink twinks will scoff and belittle as an irrelevant factor when talking about cultural impact, but the fact will always remain on a global scale… Bey has risked 10x as much as an artist compared to Taylor, who is the queen of keeping it just safe enough with a butter knife edge. That “conservative” demographic is something Taylor has always benefitted from in a way that Beyoncé absolutely doesn’t, but I if you wanna push that that as something worth bragging about when it comes to “the GP” then go ahead… ATRL and their obsession with the “GP” will always be a self drag in itself though. Cleared
Mr. Loco Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 On 5/3/2023 at 11:11 PM, BGKC said: Im surprised this is still going on… like Destiny’s child alone was a major flex whether you want to separate that piece from Bey’s career or not. She carried the group and led on to major things as a solo artist. Everything about Beyoncé is just a staple in black culture. Taylor is clearly the biggest thing to cross over from country to pop music, but idk, Beyoncé had a this phase where she was the go to in regards to covering/tributing all the greats be it Barbara, Prince, MJ, Etta, Tina etc etc. she was pushed as the all around standard entertainer ever since she went solo. Sales are one thing, but it’s not as if Bey kept it safe and cute for the teenie boppers in the last 10+ years. Conservatives absolutely hate her (from doing bold moves Taylor never in a million years would ever risk doing unless one is willing to argue that her reputation era was riskier than something like tributing black panther at the superbowl). There’s just certain things that pink twinks will scoff and belittle as an irrelevant factor when talking about cultural impact, but the fact will always remain on a global scale… Bey has risked 10x as much as an artist compared to Taylor, who is the queen of keeping it just safe enough with a butter knife edge. That “conservative” demographic is something Taylor has always benefitted from in a way that Beyoncé absolutely doesn’t, but I if you wanna push that that as something worth bragging about when it comes to “the GP” then go ahead… ATRL and their obsession with the “GP” will always be a self drag in itself though. Taylor hasn't played conservative at all, specially in the last few years, she has gone hard against patriarchy, Trump, and high ranked corporations like Spotify, Ticketmaster and her own manager who was the most powerful manager of the 2010s. Only Tay could've pulled off something like the re-recordings as succesfully as she did.
EmailMySwift Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 Obviously Taylor Beyonce is (a distant) second, though.
littlebodybigheart Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 taylor. beyonce is smoke and mirrors
worldwide angel Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 OT: given that beyoncé is a living legend at this point, i'm going to answer with beyoncé
Kimbra Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 What kind of LOSER bumps a months old thread? 6
Badgalbriel Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 Just now, Kimbra said: What kind of LOSER bumps a months old thread? This is so old, omg. Why would anyone try to find a thread like this
Katamari Posted September 3, 2023 Posted September 3, 2023 This isn’t a serious thread so I will say Lykke Li 1
Enrique523 Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 The fact that so many more people voted Beyonce really shows how out of touch this forum is with reality 1 5
CaptainMusic Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Enrique523 said: The fact that so many more people voted Beyonce really shows how out of touch this forum is with reality No, the fact that Taylor even has that many votes shows how out of touch Swifties are with reality. Being more commercially successful =/= being a bigger legend It’s been explained many times throughout this thread why Beyoncé is the bigger legend. - The answer is still Beyoncé as the poll correctly shows. 6
Bmezy Posted September 6, 2023 Posted September 6, 2023 Swifties low key got ate up in this thread tbh
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