book Why didn't The Hunger Games have the legacy Harry Potter & Twilight had?

[Josh]

Teenagers still read Harry Potter & Twilight books in 2023 but I very seldom hear talk about the Hunger Games books and very seldom are the movies talked about

[poki]

Relied too much on shock value for attention. The books are just not good. No room for cool fan fiction unlike Harry Potter and Twilight. 

[BrokenMachine]

The Hunger Games plot has been rehashed multiple times until the point it doesn't impact the GP anymore. I mean, Squid Game was basically Hunger Games but from a more sinister point of view

[Obsession]

I don't think the books were ever as much of a phenomenon, but also I think The Hunger Games's legacy has been swept up as part of the 2010s dystopia trend. Twilight had its copies and so did Harry Potter, but both remained head and shoulders above their competition - even in Twilight's case, its most successful copy is in a totally different genre. 

 

However, with The Hunger Games, you have stuff like Divergent, which wasn't as popular but was popular enough to get a film series.

 

[Blade Runner]

Poor and small worldbuilding. Plus, very bad last 2 movies. 

Edited April 28, 2023 by Blade Runner

[Robburro]

The last movie killed the franchise

 

ya ya books but Mockingjay 2 was AWFUL

[Aston Martin]

Most Hunger Games books are currently outselling most of the Twilight books on Amazon (looking at hardcover listings only for an even comparison)

Books by sales rank (how well the book sells within the book category, lower number means more sales):

The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes: 280

Hunger Games: 4,556

Midnight Sun: 7,186

Mockingjay: 11,085

Catching Fire: 26,853

Twilight: 33,583

Breaking Dawn: 54,165

Eclipse: 75,733

New Moon: 172,971 

 

Same situation at Barnes and Noble (I compared sales ranks of paperback versions this time as they were better across the board for each book).

Hunger Games: 474

The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes: 528 (though the B&N exclusive version is at 434)

Catching Fire: 1,374

Mockingjay: 1,663

Twilight: 3,469

New Moon: 4,639

Midnight Sun: 4,782

Eclipse: 5,324

Breaking Dawn: 6,045

 

So I would argue that The Hunger Games didn't fall behind Twilight (though it has the advantage of having a movie coming out this year). Obviously Harry Potter is still bigger than both put together. But there's currently a lot of hype for the BSS movie trailer that just dropped, so I would say HG still has a good sized fanbase. 

 

Edited April 28, 2023 by Aston Martin

[Iridesence]

I think other people have hit the nail on the head, but there are so many franchises that tell or have told the same story as The Hunger Games franchise now days, that deal with similar themes (Squid Game, Alice In Borderland, at the time Divergent, The Maze Runner). I don't think the series is completely forgotten, but it has definitely lost quite a significant amount of the popularity it used to have due to oversaturation. J-Law is still the biggest actress to come from any of the franchises tbh.

[BrokenMachine]

32 minutes ago, Obsession said:

I don't think the books were ever as much of a phenomenon, but also I think The Hunger Games's legacy has been swept up as part of the 2010s dystopia trend. Twilight had its copies and so did Harry Potter, but both remained head and shoulders above their competition - even in Twilight's case, its most successful copy is in a totally different genre. 

 

However, with The Hunger Games, you have stuff like Divergent, which wasn't as popular but was popular enough to get a film series.

 

There was also The Maze Runner, which also got a movie franchise. The dystopian trend felt so overused to the point Divergent final movie had to be cancelled altogether and the movie saga remains with open ending

Edited April 28, 2023 by BrokenMachine

[Da Vinci]

Harry Potter has that escapism factor, people wanna go to Hogwarts and do magic (that's why Hogwarts Legacy smashed)

You don't really wanna go to let alone live in the Hunger Games world

[BeingRicardo]

Last Hunger Games movie was horrible, they should just made one movie, not two parts.

[selena_lavigne]

In my opinion it's because dystopia is less permanent. You build the world to tear it all down.

That being said OF COURSE THE HUNGER GAMES HAS A MASSIVE LEGACY.

Harry Potter and Twilight have a forever factor to them in which you can come and go as you please.

 

Edited April 28, 2023 by selena_lavigne

[Walk_Away21]

The new movie is COMING.

[ProudLBS]

YA dystopian got old quickly because every publisher started chunking out their own series and there’s only so much you can do with that genre.

 

The series also suffers from poor worldbuilding, and its main setting being something as generic as a battle royale arena doesn’t help.
 

The Hunger Games books (well… the first 2) are better than all of Twilight and just as good as the best Harry Potter books.

Edited April 28, 2023 by ProudLBS

[chiliam]

The Hunger game is clearly bigger and better and still more talk about than Twilight.

 

Twilight`s movies just became cult classic because how`s bad the acting was, its a case of its so bad it became camp and will have a cult following. No one seriously like Twilight.

 

 

[rac7d]

1 hour ago, BrokenMachine said:

The Hunger Games plot has been rehashed multiple times until the point it doesn't impact the GP anymore. I mean, Squid Game was basically Hunger Games but from a more sinister point of view

There was like 6 dystopian book movies happening 

 

maze runner

vampires assistant

Divergent 

percy Jackson

there was more but god that era dragged on

 

now we’re at the tail end of the comic book phase 

 

wonder what’s next 

[fridayteenage]

15 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

YA dystopian got old quickly because every publisher started chunking out their own series and there’s only so much you can do with that genre.

 

The series also suffers from poor worldbuilding, and its main setting being something as generic as a battle royale arena doesn’t help.
 

The Hunger Games books (well… the first 2) are better than all of Twilight and just as good as the best Harry Potter books.

hg: book 1 good

book 2 ok

book 3 bad

book 0 terrible

 

still a phenomenon though

 

  

Just now, rac7d said:

There was like 6 dystopian book movies happening 

 

vampires assistant

percy Jackson

what? 

Edited April 28, 2023 by fridayteenage

[halcyonday]

twilight has a legacy of being trash, not sure if this is something that a respected franchise like THG would want. 

 

THG is still doing fine, the theme was overdone by the other movies, but it found its place in the YA movies/books and will be there for a long time

 

HP will always be the #1 girlie of them all  

[ProudLBS]

Just now, fridayteenage said:

hg: book 1 good

book 2 ok

book 3 bad

book 0 terrible

 

still a phenomenon though

I disliked book 3 so much the franchise died right there for me and I have not gone back since 

[Danny789]

Not people saying it’s about quality when ALL the Twilight movies were bad. 

[Gorjesspazze9]

Cuz it was a Fad. 🤷‍♀️ 

[Katamari]

59 minutes ago, Aston Martin said:

Most Hunger Games books are currently outselling most of the Twilight books on Amazon (looking at hardcover listings only for an even comparison)

Books by sales rank (how well the book sells within the book category, lower number means more sales):

The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes: 280

Hunger Games: 4,556

Midnight Sun: 7,186

Mockingjay: 11,085

Catching Fire: 26,853

Twilight: 33,583

Breaking Dawn: 54,165

Eclipse: 75,733

New Moon: 172,971 

 

Same situation at Barnes and Noble (I compared sales ranks of paperback versions this time as they were better across the board for each book).

Hunger Games: 474

The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes: 528 (though the B&N exclusive version is at 434)

Catching Fire: 1,374

Mockingjay: 1,663

Twilight: 3,469

New Moon: 4,639

Midnight Sun: 4,782

Eclipse: 5,324

Breaking Dawn: 6,045

 

So I would argue that The Hunger Games didn't fall behind Twilight (though it has the advantage of having a movie coming out this year). Obviously Harry Potter is still bigger than both put together. But there's currently a lot of hype for the BSS movie trailer that just dropped, so I would say HG still has a good sized fanbase. 

 

Oh wow 

[Kylizzle]

Twilight movies are bad but in an appealing way that makes you want more. The last 2 Hunger Games movies are just frustrating.

[VOSS]

I didn’t think the world or characters in THG were particularly compelling, the hunger games shtick was the main draw

[khalyan]

Harry Potter books are older so more nostalgia, but I don't think Twilight is bigger than Hunger Games really.