poll Xtina vs. Avril… Bigger career?

[Intuition]

7 minutes ago, KCFan2014 said:

The only thing her fans use is streams when they aren't even impressive lmao and get her no where. Imagine trying to brag about streams that can't even get you to break the BB Top 100  They have nothing else to talk about and it's embarrassing lmao

Yeah, she has to be the most overrated "pop icon" on here. 
Though I do enjoy her early hits.

[ProudLBS]

21 minutes ago, Intuition said:

It's never those who Avril directly competed with like P!nk or Kelly Clarkson

Kelly and P!nk were not Avril's main competitors 

 

20 minutes ago, Majka Jeżowska said:

Will you still bring up Spotify*? Aguilera era did better than Love Sux, for example, on YouTube.

*it's not even the biggest streaming platform in the US.

feel free to add the the numbers to the Spotify numbers then.

 

and btw Love Sux peaked at #12 on US Apple Music, did AGUILERA even enter the top 100?

[Intuition]

Just now, ProudLBS said:

Kelly and P!nk were not Avril's main competitors 

 

feel free to add the the numbers to the Spotify numbers then.

 

and btw Love Sux peaked at #12 on US Apple Music, did AGUILERA even enter the top 100?

They all made similar Pop rock music and P!nk was seen as the Anti-Britney as well 

 

 

[Thief]

[Majka Jeżowska]

9 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

Kelly and P!nk were not Avril's main competitors 

 

feel free to add the the numbers to the Spotify numbers then.

 

and btw Love Sux peaked at #12 on US Apple Music, did AGUILERA even enter the top 100?

Top 40 (La Fuerza) on US Apple Music, if Aguilera had been released in one part, it might have debuted in the top ten.

[ProudLBS]

Just now, Intuition said:

They all made similar Pop rock music

on what planet does Let Go sound anything remotely like Missundaztood and Thankful? 

 

Let Go borrows from country, grunge, pop punk and alternative rock while Missundaztood is basically an R&B-infused teen pop album with more pronounced guitars 

 

9 minutes ago, Intuition said:

and P!nk was seen as the Anti-Britney as well 

PLEASE, even Eminem was seen as the anti-Britney  

[Intuition]

4 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

on what planet does Let Go sound anything remotely like Missundaztood and Thankful? 

 

Let Go borrows from country, grunge, pop punk and alternative rock while Missundaztood is basically an R&B-infused teen pop album with more pronounced guitars 

 

PLEASE, even Eminem was seen as the anti-Britney  

Missundaztood is not R&B and what Christina album sounds like Avril that they are more comparable? 

Obviously I was talking about Breakaway.

Mess at Let Go "borrowing from country"

Only a European would believe this 

[Blankspace2010]

1 hour ago, Intuition said:

I mean you can always tell whose fave has had a lackluster career when they go after the lowest common denominator (Christina Aguilera).

It's especially strange when I don't think X has even acknowledged A's existence (I could be wrong).

It's never those who Avril directly competed with like P!nk or Kelly Clarkson or even who she was compared to in the media more (Britney Spears) or even the girls that debuted after, because let's be honest, everyone has surpassed her (even Ariana and Miley)

Just my additional two cents

Embarrassingly, when Christina was forced into reality TV thanks to her career bombing into oblivion, she had to acknowledge Avril when the winner of a The Voice sang with Avril in the finale as Avril was her main influence on her music. So while Xtina worked in reality TV, she watched Avril be an influential pop star for the winning contestant of the reality show that Xtina now worked on full time. So embarrassing for her. Humiliating. Jesus Christ. I felt sorry for her that day. Tragic. 

[Intuition]

6 minutes ago, Blankspace2010 said:

Embarrassingly, when Christina was forced into reality TV thanks to her career bombing into oblivion, she had to acknowledge Avril when the winner of a The Voice sang with Avril in the finale as Avril was her main influence on her music. So while Xtina worked in reality TV, she watched Avril be an influential pop star for the winning contestant of the reality show that Xtina now worked on full time. So embarrassing for her. Humiliating. Jesus Christ. I felt sorry for her that day. Tragic. 

 

 

[Power love]

1 hour ago, ProudLBS said:

Kelly and P!nk were not Avril's main competitors

Imagine thinking this 

[Homebrand]

It’s so funny when stans start using the “acclaim” card when nobody is even consuming their music despite all those “Grammys”

[ProudLBS]

1 hour ago, Intuition said:

Missundaztood is not R&B and what Christina album sounds like Avril that they are more comparable? 

Obviously I was talking about Breakaway.

Mess at Let Go "borrowing from country"

Only a European would believe this 

R&B-induced. What would you classify Family Portrait as then?

 

I never said their music had to sound similar for them to be peers  Kelly and P!nk are Avril’s peers, as are all the late 90s-early 2000s TRL girls.

 

It just doesn’t make any sense to put those 3 in a special box based off nonsensical criteria, especially when Kelly and P!nk had way more in common with each other (believe it or not, down to the amount of support they got from radio lol) than with Avril.

 

By the time Kelly dropped Breakaway, Avril had already dropped a grunge / alternative rock / nu metal album that had even less in common with Breakaway  

 

Complicated’s country influences are  a bit obvious, but if you can’t hear them, let this random country band enlighten you:

 

 

40 minutes ago, Power love said:

Imagine thinking this 

Imagine thinking they had anything in common other than debuting more or less at the same time and having guitars in their songs 

[Intuition]

4 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

R&B-induced. What would you classify Family Portrait as then?

 

I never said their music had to sound similar for them to be peers  Kelly and P!nk are Avril’s peers, as are all the late 90s-early 2000s TRL girls.

 

It just doesn’t make any sense to put those 3 in a special box based off nonsensical criteria, especially when Kelly and P!nk had way more in common with each other (believe it or not, down to the amount of support they got from radio lol) than with Avril.

 

By the time Kelly dropped Breakaway, Avril had already dropped a grunge / alternative rock / nu metal album that had even less in common with Breakaway  

 

Complicated’s country influences are  a bit obvious, but if you can’t hear them, let this random country band enlighten you:

 

 

Imagine thinking they had anything in common other than debuting more or less at the same time and having guitars in their songs 

You can make a country version of literally any song, there is nothing "country" about Complicated. 

They claim that the lyrics and form could mean it's similar to country, but it's a pop song. Sorry there's still no country influence sonically

[brazil]

Avril duh

[KKCuteCat]

7 hours ago, Mr. Stratus said:

Following the trend, thought these two could make a good discussion 

How is it a good discussion when Avril outsold and outstreamed?

[ttsmu]

Avril and it's not even close.

 

Let Go alone is bigger than Xtina's entire career.

[ProudLBS]

28 minutes ago, Intuition said:

You can make a country version of literally any song, there is nothing "country" about Complicated. 

They claim that the lyrics and form could mean it's similar to country, but it's a pop song. Sorry there's still no country influence sonically

that’s the textbook definition of “influence”  and surprise surprise, guess who started in country music.

Edited April 17, 2023 by ProudLBS

[Intuition]

Just now, ProudLBS said:

that’s the definition of “influence”  and surprise surprise, guess who started in country music

You literally claimed it "borrowed from country" because you have zero clue about country music and probably thought the opening "sounds country".
Face it hun, there's nothing "country" about anything in her career. And her "starting in country music" is irrelevant when her entire career has pretty much been pop/pop rock.

[Into The Void]

6 hours ago, R. Ramirez said:

 

 

Moves Like Jagger - 1,066,848,489

Say Something - 946,158,909

 

Avril could only dream of pulling these numbers. 

Looks to me like Maroon 5 is the reason Moves Like Jagger has 1b streams based on their recurrents

 Nice try.

 

 

Song Title	Streams	Daily ▾
Payphone	1,379,395,613	1,047,406
Maps	1,223,803,823	971,023
Moves Like Jagger - Studio Recording From "The Voice" Performance	1,067,772,673	924,184
Sugar	1,552,389,096	679,733
Animals	1,083,743,583	671,311
Memories	1,721,608,942	605,146
She Will Be Loved	1,160,183,354	534,201
This Love	795,097,950	509,608
One More Night	664,072,807	472,997
Beautiful Mistakes (feat. Megan Thee Stallion)	592,676,295	376,205

 

 

Song Title	Streams	Daily ▾
* Moves Like Jagger - Studio Recording From "The Voice" Performance	1,064,125,078	827,999
* Feel This Moment (feat. Christina Aguilera)	504,540,704	328,304
* Say Something	945,010,986	263,161
Lady Marmalade - From "Moulin Rouge" Soundtrack	347,892,377	182,330
Genie In a Bottle	295,817,448	148,077
Beautiful	278,980,125	95,511
Dirrty (feat. Redman)	196,273,443	73,789
Fighter	181,618,441	68,684
Candyman	128,975,468	66,876

[Into The Void]

6 hours ago, R. Ramirez said:

 

Grammys (The Oscars' Music) whose committee is made up of highly-skilled music peers >>>>>>>>> some paid journalists website

 

 

These highly skilled music peers nominated Yummy for Best Pop Solo Performance.  R they really that credible?

Edited April 17, 2023 by Insanity

[ProudLBS]

53 minutes ago, Intuition said:

You literally claimed it "borrowed from country" because you have zero clue about country music and probably thought the opening "sounds country".

Where did I claim it was sonically?
 

But if you don’t hear any country influences in the melody and the lyrics, fine. Your fave did when she made The Way I Loved You 😉 

Edited April 17, 2023 by ProudLBS

[Repelex]

These threads are so fun

 

OT: The one who can chart and solo tour in countries other than the USA.

 

[ninetiesceline]

Youtube career views:

6.05B — Avril (12.3M subscribers)

4.12B — Xtina (5.5M subscribers) 

 

Spotify career views:

6.65B — Xtina (3.07M daily)

4.91B — Avril (2.60M daily)

(via Kworb - 04/12/23)

[FightDragonsWithMe]

I would give it to Avril. 

[DestroyAndSmile]

8 hours ago, Majka Jeżowska said:

Weekly charts

 

Chart (2022)	Peak position
Argentina Latino (Monitor Latino)[50]	19
Chile Pop (Monitor Latino)[51]	10
Costa Rica Latino (Monitor Latino)[52]	18
Dominican Republic Pop (Monitor Latino)[53]	7
Ecuador Pop (Monitor Latino)[54]	16
El Salvador (Monitor Latino)[38]	6
El Salvador Pop (Monitor Latino)[55]	5
Germany (Official German Charts)[56]	80
Guatemala (Monitor Latino)[31]	3
Guatemala Pop (Monitor Latino)[32]	1
Hungary (Rádiós Top 40)[57]	38
Hungary (Single Top 40)[42]	17
Latin America (Monitor Latino)[29]	6
Latin America (Latino) (Monitor Latino)[30]	6
Mexico Airplay (Billboard)[58]	22
Mexico Espanol Airplay (Billboard)[59]	8
Mexico Pop (Monitor Latino)[60]	13
Nicaragua Pop (Monitor Latino)[61]	14
Panama (Monitor Latino)[36]	6
Panama (PRODUCE)[37]	7
Panama Pop (Monitor Latino)[62]	4
Panama Urbano (Monitor Latino)[63]	6
Peru (Monitor Latino)[39]	9
Peru Pop (Monitor Latino)[64]	4
Peru Urbano (Monitor Latino)[65]	5
Puerto Rico (Monitor Latino)[33]	6
Puerto Rico Pop (Monitor Latino)[34]	1
Puerto Rico Urbano (Monitor Latino)[35]	7
Spain (PROMUSICAE)[43]	72
Suriname (Nationale Top 40)[66]	21
Venezuela Pop (Monitor Latino)[67]	9
Venezuela Urbano (Monitor Latino)[68]	12
US Hot Latin Songs (Billboard)[24]	24
US Latin Airplay (Billboard)[25]	12
US Latin Pop Airplay (Billboard)[26]	3
US Latin Rhythm Airplay (Billboard)[27]	7

Year-end charts

 

Chart (2022)	Position
US Latin Rhythm Airplay (Billboard)[78]	45
US Latin Pop Airplay (Billboard)[77]	24
Puerto Rico Pop (Monitor Latino)[76]	20
Puerto Rico (Monitor Latino)[75]	78
Paraguay Pop (Monitor Latino)[74]	77
Panama (Monitor Latino)[73]	34
Guatemala (Monitor Latino)[40]	20
El Salvador Pop (Monitor Latino)[72]	83
Dominican Republic (Monitor Latino)[41]	24
Chile Pop (Monitor Latino)[71]	38
Bolivia (Monitor Latino)[70]	58
Argentina (Monitor Latino)[69]	67

Germany #80 in 2022? And which song is that supposed to be exactly? She didn't have a single charting in Germany since 2013 

 

LMAO I just looked it up. Not Xtina fans trying to make people believe she could chart with a Spanish song on the Official German charts in 2022 when it was just the download charts 

Edited April 17, 2023 by DestroyAndSmile