poll Xtina vs. Avril… Bigger career?

[Intuition]

1 minute ago, Both Sides Now said:

Yet its WW certs are 900k  Y’all are living in an alternative reality.
 

There’s no reason it should be pulling 107k streams on Spotify. On YouTube, it was streamed 14k yesterday. We Belong Together was streamed 213k on YouTube. 
 

Keep in mind, Xtina released a new Beautiful video last year with a remix from Benny Benassi. 

 

She's forgotten, I mean what do you expect? I don't know who Benny Benassi is.

And not I'm Alive outstreaming the Song of the Decade again on YT again

[Majka Jeżowska]

7 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said:

Yet its WW certs are 900k  Y’all are living in an alternative reality.
 

There’s no reason it should be pulling 107k streams on Spotify. On YouTube, it was streamed 14k yesterday. We Belong Together was streamed 213k on YouTube. 
 

Keep in mind, Xtina released a new Beautiful video last year with a remix from Benny Benassi. 

 

Are you playing dumb? Can't Hold Us Down has 3x more daily YouTube views than Beautiul. You know why? Because Beautiful is blocked in many countries. Secondly, did you know that certificates in many countries are not automatic? 

Thirdly, Beautiful sold over 900k units in the UK alone. 

[toxicgenie]

Avril is more successful as a musician/MPG and Xtina as an artist/celebrity. 

 

TBH Avril should be even more successful, considering she never had to take breaks to raise kids or juggle that + career. She should be bigger than all the MPGs from the 90s that did.

[Majka Jeżowska]

Top 10 in WW

Beautiful: 29 (10 #1)

We Belong Together (574k WW certs): 16 (2 #1)

 

[Majka Jeżowska]

3 minutes ago, toxicgenie said:

Avril is more successful as a musician/MPG and Xtina as an artist/celebrity. 

 

TBH Avril should be even more successful, considering she never had to take breaks to raise kids or juggle that + career. She should be bigger than all the MPGs from the 90s that did.

She is not

 

Albums:

Christina: 35m

Avril: 33,5m

 

Singles:

Christina: 84m

still Christina (without her collabs): 60m

Avril (all her career + her collabs): 50m

 

Streams:

Christina: 6,9B

still Christina (without her collabs): 5,3B

Avril: 4,9B

 

#1:

Christina:

US: 5

UK: 4

AUS: 4

NZ: 5 

GER: 1 

SPAIN: 5

CAN: 5

 

Avril:

US: 1

UK: 1

AUS: 2

NZ: 2

GER: 0

SPAIN: 1

CAN: 2

 

#10:

Christina:

US: 11

UK: 18

AUS: 18

NZ: 15 

GER: 12

SPAIN: 10

CAN: 15

 

Avril:

US: 5

UK: 7

AUS: 7

NZ: 5

GER: 3

SPAIN: 4

CAN: 7

 

Grammy:

Christina: 7

still Christina (without her collabs): 7

Avril: 0

 

Last Grammy nom:

Christina: 2022

still Christina (without her collabs): 2022

Avril: 2004

 

Last Grammy win:

Christina: 2022

still Christina (without her collabs): 2022

Avril: N/A

 

Platinum albums:

Christina: 5 (+Burlesque and KGB eligible for platinum)

Avril: 3

[ProudLBS]

2 minutes ago, Majka Jeżowska said:

She is not

studio albums:

Avril - 32,290,000 (5 albums)

Xtina - 30,400,000 (7 albums)

 

compilations / live albums:

Avril - 1,206,000

Xtina - 4,375,000

 

singles:

Avril - 49,670,000

Xtina - 82,690,000

 

singles (own albums):

Avril - 48,940,000

Xtina - 40,560,000

 

Albums' streaming units:

Avril - 6,763,000

Xtina - 3,741,000

 

Total album units:

Avril - 48,112,000 (7 albums)

Xtina - 44,577,000 (9 albums)

 

Avril has better stats in every metric except:

- compilations (she never released a greatest hits)

- singles (and 40% of Xtina's sales - 31,900,000 - come from Moves Like Jagger, Feel This Moment and Say Something)

 

Bonus:

1. Let Go - 1,542,085,276
2. The Best Damn Thing - 875,486,265
3. Stripped - 847,655,624
4. Goodbye Lullaby - 722,143,327
5. Christina Aguilera - 589,043,766
6. Avril Lavigne - 539,263,647
7. Back To Basics - 456,251,259
8. Under My Skin - 451,326,410
9. Burlesque - 371,583,258
10. Head Above Water - 366,247,597
11. Love Sux - 251,759,251
12. My Kind of Christmas - 221,333,686
13. Mi Reflejo - 190,023,691
14. Lotus - 189,447,476
15. Liberation - 172,815,191
16. Bionic - 137,983,419
17. AGUILERA - 95,995,131
18. Just Be Free - 1,459,716

Avril: 4,748,311,773 (7 albums, 115 songs)
Xtina: 3,273,592,217 (11 albums, 177 songs)

[Majka Jeżowska]

Just now, ProudLBS said:

studio albums:

Avril - 32,290,000 (5 albums)

Xtina - 30,400,000 (7 albums)

 

compilations / live albums:

Avril - 1,206,000

Xtina - 4,375,000

 

singles:

Avril - 49,670,000

Xtina - 82,690,000

 

singles (own albums):

Avril - 48,940,000

Xtina - 40,560,000

 

Albums' streaming units:

Avril - 6,763,000

Xtina - 3,741,000

 

Total album units:

Avril - 48,112,000 (7 albums)

Xtina - 44,577,000 (9 albums)

 

Avril has better stats in every metric except:

- compilations (she never released a greatest hits)

- singles (and 40% of Xtina's sales - 31,900,000 - come from Moves Like Jagger, Feel This Moment and Say Something)

 

Bonus:

 

1. Let Go - 1,542,085,276
2. The Best Damn Thing - 875,486,265
3. Stripped - 847,655,624
4. Goodbye Lullaby - 722,143,327
5. Christina Aguilera - 589,043,766
6. Avril Lavigne - 539,263,647
7. Back To Basics - 456,251,259
8. Under My Skin - 451,326,410
9. Burlesque - 371,583,258
10. Head Above Water - 366,247,597
11. Love Sux - 251,759,251
12. My Kind of Christmas - 221,333,686
13. Mi Reflejo - 190,023,691
14. Lotus - 189,447,476
15. Liberation - 172,815,191
16. Bionic - 137,983,419
17. AGUILERA - 95,995,131
18. Just Be Free - 1,459,716

Avril: 4,748,311,773 (7 albums, 115 songs)
Xtina: 3,273,592,217 (11 albums, 177 songs)

Albums:

Christina: 35m

Avril: 33,5m

 

Singles:

Christina: 84m

still Christina (without her collabs): 60m

Avril (all her career + her collabs): 50m

 

Streams:

Christina: 6,9B

still Christina (without her collabs): 5,3B

Avril: 4,9B

 

#1:

Christina:

US: 5

UK: 4

AUS: 4

NZ: 5 

GER: 1 

SPAIN: 5

CAN: 5

 

Avril:

US: 1

UK: 1

AUS: 2

NZ: 2

GER: 0

SPAIN: 1

CAN: 2

 

#10:

Christina:

US: 11

UK: 18

AUS: 18

NZ: 15 

GER: 12

SPAIN: 10

CAN: 15

 

Avril:

US: 5

UK: 7

AUS: 7

NZ: 5

GER: 3

SPAIN: 4

CAN: 7

 

Grammy:

Christina: 7

still Christina (without her collabs): 7

Avril: 0

 

Last Grammy nom:

Christina: 2022

still Christina (without her collabs): 2022

Avril: 2004

 

Last Grammy win:

Christina: 2022

still Christina (without her collabs): 2022

Avril: N/A

 

Platinum albums:

Christina: 5 (+Burlesque and KGB eligible for platinum)

Avril: 3

[ProudLBS]

14 minutes ago, Majka Jeżowska said:

(blah blah blah)

apart from the several lies, not you still hanging on to the radio-fueled chart peaks of songs that are completely forgotten 

 

ffs Avril has 75 songs outstreaming one of Xtina’s top 10s 

Edited April 20, 2023 by ProudLBS

[#Beautiful]

not 13 pages

 

[Diocles]

IDK, maybe Avril i guess. 

[Majka Jeżowska]

18 minutes ago, ProudLBS said:

blah blah blah

Xtina (with or without her smash hit collabs released 15 years in her career) still outsold Avril 

 

But your attempt to portray Xtina as a flop is quite funny. 

Live in your bubble, you'll be fine 

[Majka Jeżowska]

In sum:

 

Albums:

Christina: 35m

Avril: 33,5m

 

Singles:

Christina: 84m

still Christina (without her collabs): 60m

Avril (all her career + her collabs): 50m

 

Streams:

Christina: 6,9B

still Christina (without her collabs): 5,3B

Avril: 4,9B

 

#1:

Christina:

US: 5

UK: 4

AUS: 4

NZ: 5 

GER: 1 

SPAIN: 5

CAN: 5

 

Avril:

US: 1

UK: 1

AUS: 2

NZ: 2

GER: 0

SPAIN: 1

CAN: 2

 

#10:

Christina:

US: 11

UK: 18

AUS: 18

NZ: 15 

GER: 12

SPAIN: 10

CAN: 15

 

Avril:

US: 5

UK: 7

AUS: 7

NZ: 5

GER: 3

SPAIN: 4

CAN: 7

 

Grammy:

Christina: 7

still Christina (without her collabs): 7

Avril: 0

 

Last Grammy nom:

Christina: 2022

still Christina (without her collabs): 2022

Avril: 2004

 

Last Grammy win:

Christina: 2022

still Christina (without her collabs): 2022

Avril: N/A

 

Platinum albums:

Christina: 5 (+Burlesque and KGB eligible for platinum)

Avril: 3

 

CSPC:

 

Xtina - 57,189,000

Avril - 47,999,000

 

Spotify:

1B:

Christina: 1

Avril: N/A

 

500m:

Christina: 3

Avril: 1

 

+100m:

Christina: 13

Avril: 11

 

+50m

Christina: 28

Avril: 17

 

+30m:

Christina: 37

Avri: 28 

 

+10m:

Christina: 66

Avril:  71

 

Grammy noms:

9 - Aguilera (2022)

5 - Stripped (2002)

5 - Let Go (2002)

4 - Mi Reflejo (2000)

3 - Back To Basics (2006)

3 - Christina Aguilera (1999)

3 - Under My Skin (2004)

2 - Liberation (2018)

1 - Burlesque (2010)

0 - Bionic (2010)

0 - Lotus  (2012) (but in this era she managed to win a Grammy for Say Something)

0 - The Best Damn Thing (2007)

0 - Goodbye Lullaby (2011)

0 - Avril Lavigne (2013)

0 - Head Above Water

0 - (2019) Love Sux (2022)

 

[Power love]

1 hour ago, Both Sides Now said:

Daily Spotify Streams
Halo - 589k

If I Ain’t Got You - 460k

We Belong Together - 319k

Because of You - 258k

Bleeding Love - 258k

Big Girls Don’t Cry (Personal) - 220k

I’m With You - 155k

Beautiful - 107k 
Everytime - 81k

 

I think you’re the one with some comprehension issues if you think Beautiful was massive or among the biggest ballads of the 00s!  It is literally at Everytime - Britney levels of remembered. 
 

Mind you, it’s Xtina’s second biggest song on the platform! 

Again, comprehension.

 

 That Avril stan said Xtina Stan’s said Beautiful was the biggest ballad of the 00s. Literally nobody said that! 
 

Even the proof you posted made no sense to that statement. Whether or not beautiful was a massive hit to you, is irrelevant to what that user said because regardless nobody said beautiful was the biggest hit/Ballad of the 00s

 

 Your strange obsession with Spotify stats. Make it make sense.

Edited April 20, 2023 by Power love

[ProudLBS]

studio albums:

Avril - 32,290,000 (5 albums)

Xtina - 30,400,000 (7 albums)

 

compilations / live albums:

Avril - 1,206,000

Xtina - 4,375,000

 

singles:

Avril - 49,670,000

Xtina - 82,690,000

 

singles (own albums):

Avril - 48,940,000

Xtina - 40,560,000

 

Albums' streaming units:

Avril - 6,763,000

Xtina - 3,741,000

 

Total album units:

Avril - 48,112,000 (7 albums)

Xtina - 44,577,000 (9 albums)

 

Avril has better stats in every metric except:

- compilations (she never released a greatest hits)

- singles (and 40% of Xtina's sales - 31,900,000 - come from Moves Like Jagger, Feel This Moment and Say Something)

 

Bonus:

 

1. Let Go - 1,542,085,276
2. The Best Damn Thing - 875,486,265
3. Stripped - 847,655,624
4. Goodbye Lullaby - 722,143,327
5. Christina Aguilera - 589,043,766
6. Avril Lavigne - 539,263,647
7. Back To Basics - 456,251,259
8. Under My Skin - 451,326,410
9. Burlesque - 371,583,258
10. Head Above Water - 366,247,597
11. Love Sux - 251,759,251
12. My Kind of Christmas - 221,333,686
13. Mi Reflejo - 190,023,691
14. Lotus - 189,447,476
15. Liberation - 172,815,191
16. Bionic - 137,983,419
17. AGUILERA - 95,995,131
18. Just Be Free - 1,459,716

Avril: 4,748,311,773 (7 albums, 115 songs)
Xtina: 3,273,592,217 (11 albums, 177 songs)

[toxicgenie]

Out of curiosity, I just glanced at their career touring data. I expected Avril to be on top since her steams are better, but Christina has better numbers for everything before the pandemic. The data after that hasn't been updated yet. And I found out Avril also opened for the Backstreet Boys in the 2010s. 

 

So maybe Avril is having a resurgence, with Olivia and Billie fans streaming her music now?

[ProudLBS]

7 minutes ago, toxicgenie said:

Out of curiosity, I just glanced at their career touring data. I expected Avril to be on top since her steams are better, but Christina has better numbers for everything before the pandemic. The data after that hasn't been updated yet.

Avril has a LOT of stats missing, but Xtina probably has higher earnings in that department.

 

Xtina’s known for her expensive tickets and her shows are always pop extravaganzas: lots of dancers, costume changes, props, etc.

 

Avril’s shows are just her, her band and a screen (when there is one). Her second most complex staging of her career is her current one: a screen, a bunch of balloons and 2 ramps. Accordingly, her tickets have always been more affordable.

 

[Majka Jeżowska]

15 minutes ago, toxicgenie said:

Out of curiosity, I just glanced at their career touring data. I expected Avril to be on top since her steams are better, but Christina has better numbers for everything before the pandemic. The data after that hasn't been updated yet. And I found out Avril also opened for the Backstreet Boys in the 2010s. 

 

So maybe Avril is having a resurgence, with Olivia and Billie fans streaming her music now?

 

Are we surprised?

 

Albums:

Christina: 35m

Avril: 33,5m

 

Singles:

Christina: 84m

still Christina (without her collabs): 60m

Avril (all her career + her collabs): 50m

 

Streams:

Christina: 6,9B

still Christina (without her collabs): 5,3B

Avril: 4,9B

 

#1:

Christina:

US: 5

UK: 4

AUS: 4

NZ: 5 

GER: 1 

SPAIN: 5

CAN: 5

 

Avril:

US: 1

UK: 1

AUS: 2

NZ: 2

GER: 0

SPAIN: 1

CAN: 2

 

#10:

Christina:

US: 11

UK: 18

AUS: 18

NZ: 15 

GER: 12

SPAIN: 10

CAN: 15

 

Avril:

US: 5

UK: 7

AUS: 7

NZ: 5

GER: 3

SPAIN: 4

CAN: 7

 

Grammy:

Christina: 7

still Christina (without her collabs): 7

Avril: 0

 

Last Grammy nom:

Christina: 2022

still Christina (without her collabs): 2022

Avril: 2004

 

Last Grammy win:

Christina: 2022

still Christina (without her collabs): 2022

Avril: N/A

 

Platinum albums:

Christina: 5 (+Burlesque and KGB eligible for platinum)

Avril: 3

 

CSPC:

 

Xtina - 57,189,000

Avril - 47,999,000

 

Spotify:

1B:

Christina: 1

Avril: N/A

 

500m:

Christina: 3

Avril: 1

 

+100m:

Christina: 13

Avril: 11

 

+50m

Christina: 28

Avril: 17

 

+30m:

Christina: 37

Avri: 28 

 

+10m:

Christina: 66

Avril:  71

 

Grammy noms:

9 - Aguilera (2022)

5 - Stripped (2002)

5 - Let Go (2002)

4 - Mi Reflejo (2000)

3 - Back To Basics (2006)

3 - Christina Aguilera (1999)

3 - Under My Skin (2004)

2 - Liberation (2018)

1 - Burlesque (2010)

0 - Bionic (2010)

0 - Lotus  (2012) (but in this era she managed to win a Grammy for Say Something)

0 - The Best Damn Thing (2007)

0 - Goodbye Lullaby (2011)

0 - Avril Lavigne (2013)

0 - Head Above Water

0 - (2019) Love Sux (2022)

 

Touring:

Xtina - best-selling female tour of 2007>>> Avril - opening act for BSB and unknown rapper

 

 

 

[ProudLBS]

4 minutes ago, Majka Jeżowska said:

Are we surprised?

Did you forget your fave canceled the Bionic tour cause no one was buying tickets 

[Majka Jeżowska]

Just now, ProudLBS said:

Did you forget your fave canceled the Bionic tour cause no one was buying tickets 

You know that's not true. She cancels the tour before the official ticket sales start. 

 

Burlesque promo + divorce were more of a priority for her.

 

 

[Raphy23]

Avril is on a massive worldwide area tour 23 years into her career.

 

I'm surprised this thread has more than 3 comments because it's not even a debate. 

[Majka Jeżowska]

3 minutes ago, Raphy23 said:

Avril is on a massive worldwide area tour 23 years into her career.

 

I'm surprised this thread has more than 3 comments because it's not even a debate. 

You're surprised? Just go out to people instead of sitting in the basement.

[Rv1709]

Are we combining Avril and Melissa’s stats or just Avril?

 

@ProudLBS

Edited April 20, 2023 by Rv1709

[ProudLBS]

46 minutes ago, Rv1709 said:

Are we combining Avril and Melissa’s stats or just Avril?

 

@ProudLBS

both, they're

 

[Both Sides Now]

6 hours ago, Power love said:

Again, comprehension.

 

 That Avril stan said Xtina Stan’s said Beautiful was the biggest ballad of the 00s. Literally nobody said that! 
 

Even the proof you posted made no sense to that statement. Whether or not beautiful was a massive hit to you, is irrelevant to what that user said because regardless nobody said beautiful was the biggest hit/Ballad of the 00s

 

 Your strange obsession with Spotify stats. Make it make sense.

Sorry that actual receipts make you upset 

 

Beautiful: 2.9M in certifications

WBT: 7.6M in certifications

 

Streaming Daily

WBT: 320k Spotify / 220k YT

Beautiful: 107k Spotify / 14k YT

 

But you’re right, I’m lacking comprehension. Beautiful is way bigger because it went #7 in Lichtenstein while WBT went #8. 
 

Anyway, back to topic: Why does What The Hell have more daily streams than all of Xtina’s releases post 2010?!

[SinnerCity]

Do you guys still need me to chip in or has it been established that Avril has the bigger career?