Mr. Stratus Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 Following the trend, thought these two could make a good discussion
shyboi Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) Avril was the most influential 2000s pop girl AFTER Britney and Beyoncé. You can still see their influence everywhere. Also, her streams still pretty solid as well. So, Avril and not even close. Edited April 16, 2023 by shyboi
ProudLBS Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) not this thread again Avril: bigger peak, bigger sales (of her own material and despite having a shorter discography), more longevity, bigger impact. The streaming numbers don't lie: Let Go - 1,542,085,276 The Best Damn Thing - 875,486,265 Stripped - 847,655,624 Goodbye Lullaby - 722,143,327 Christina Aguilera - 589,043,766 Avril Lavigne - 539,263,647 Back To Basics - 456,251,259 Under My Skin - 451,326,410 Burlesque - 371,583,258 Head Above Water - 366,247,597 Love Sux - 251,759,251 My Kind of Christmas - 221,333,686 Mi Reflejo - 190,023,691 Lotus - 189,447,476 Liberation - 172,815,191 Bionic - 137,983,419 AGUILERA - 95,995,131 Just Be Free - 1,459,716 Avril: 4,748,311,773 (7 albums, 115 songs) Xtina: 3,273,592,217 (11 albums, 177 songs) Edited April 16, 2023 by ProudLBS
R. Ramirez Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: not this thread again Avril: bigger peak, bigger sales (of her own material and despite having a shorter discography), more longevity, bigger impact. Christina is a 7 time GRAMMY winning artist (mind you she has a MAJOR field), considering one of the best voices in the music industry by the likes of Whitney Houston, Tina Turner, Cher, Celine, etc.. There's no way in hell Avril is more ACCLAIMED than her... Also Xtina is FAR more influential.
collin Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 Omg the quarterly resurgence of this topic It’s close but Avril.
Erreur2 La Nature Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 Great thread idea ! Avril stomps on Christina Aguilera !
R. Ramirez Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 Last decade, Xtina has spawned MUCH more impressives accolades than Xtina. A DIAMOND song being one of the most successful hits in history according to BH100 All-Time Chart, a 6x platinum song that won a GRAMMY, another quadruple platinum single released the same year. Like when was the last time the Complicated singer had a top 10? Christina stayed a successful businesswoman despite her decline, she could buy two AvrilS and still remain a multimillionaire. I'd rather go with the girl with 20 weeks atop of BH100 than the one who only has one chart-topper.
Robburro Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 can someone please tell me when was the last time Xtina charted on the hot 100 alone? oh yeah, almost 11 years ago. 9 minutes ago, R. Ramirez said: Christina is a 7 time GRAMMY winning artist (mind you she has a MAJOR field), considering one of the best voices in the music industry by the likes of Whitney Houston, Tina Turner, Cher, Celine, etc.. There's no way in hell Avril is more ACCLAIMED than her... Also Xtina is FAR more influential. lol
Both Sides Now Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, ProudLBS said: not this thread again Avril: bigger peak, bigger sales (of her own material and despite having a shorter discography), more longevity, bigger impact. The streaming numbers don't lie: Let Go - 1,542,085,276 The Best Damn Thing - 875,486,265 Stripped - 847,655,624 Goodbye Lullaby - 722,143,327 Christina Aguilera - 589,043,766 Avril Lavigne - 539,263,647 Back To Basics - 456,251,259 Under My Skin - 451,326,410 Burlesque - 371,583,258 Head Above Water - 366,247,597 Love Sux - 251,759,251 My Kind of Christmas - 221,333,686 Mi Reflejo - 190,023,691 Lotus - 189,447,476 Liberation - 172,815,191 Bionic - 137,983,419 AGUILERA - 95,995,131 Just Be Free - 1,459,716 Avril: 4,748,311,773 (7 albums, 115 songs) Xtina: 3,273,592,217 (11 albums, 177 songs) To add to this, Let Go alone (~942k daily) nearly outstreams all Xtina albums (~1.081M daily)!
ProudLBS Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 Just now, Both Sides Now said: To add to this, Let Go alone (~942k daily) nearly outstreams all Xtina albums (~1.081M daily)! actually Let Go has been getting 1M+ updates lately it hit 1,058,012 on Friday
shyboi Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said: To add to this, Let Go alone (~942k daily) nearly outstreams all Xtina albums (~1.081M daily)! 1 minute ago, ProudLBS said: actually Let Go has been getting 1M+ updates lately it hit 1,058,012 on Friday
R. Ramirez Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, Erreur2 La Nature said: Great thread idea ! Avril stomps on Christina Aguilera ! Well.. Doesn't look like it.
Power love Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 All I’m seeing is streams to prove Avril is bigger but with basic elementary school comprehension it’s “CAREER”. Xtina has found success in music, (more #1s hits), television (the voice is a success), soundtrack(Burlesque & reflection, LRB), movies (burlesque), & she’s a seven time Grammy winner & in the top 10 of best Grammy performances. Christina has never been an opening act for anyone. Christina has the #1 tour of 2007. Xtina has a diamond certified single in Spanish and English. Xtina has never been dropped from a label Christina had a successful Vegas residency. I could go on & on Xtina career is much more impressive & this is coming from someone who loves both.
legendlavigne Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) This again OT: The one currently on the sold out European tour: Avril Lavigne. Edited April 16, 2023 by legendlavigne
R. Ramirez Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Both Sides Now said: To add to this, Let Go alone (~942k daily) nearly outstreams all Xtina albums (~1.081M daily)! Moves Like Jagger - 1,066,848,489 Say Something - 946,158,909 Avril could only dream of pulling these numbers. Edited April 16, 2023 by R. Ramirez
ProudLBS Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 Just now, R. Ramirez said: Christina is a 7 time GRAMMY winning artist (mind you she has a MAJOR field), considering one of the best voices in the music industry by the likes of Whitney Houston, Tina Turner, Cher, Celine, etc.. There's no way in hell Avril is more ACCLAIMED than her... idk why you're bringing "acclaim" into this conversation, but since you wanna go there: Average score: Xtina - 61 Avril - 64 Highest score: Xtina - 71 Avril - 74 Green scores: Xtina - 2/6 Avril - 5/7 Yellow scores: Xtina - 4/6 Avril - 2/7 5 minutes ago, R. Ramirez said: Also Xtina is FAR more influential. Who was the blueprint for Olivia and Billie, the Disney girls of the 2000s, Paramore, etc?
Intuition Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, ProudLBS said: idk why you're bringing "acclaim" into this conversation, but since you wanna go there: Average score: Xtina - 61 Avril - 64 Highest score: Xtina - 71 Avril - 74 Green scores: Xtina - 2/6 Avril - 5/7 Yellow scores: Xtina - 4/6 Avril - 2/7 Who was the blueprint for Olivia and Billie, the Disney girls of the 2000s, Paramore, etc? Alanis. Just as she was for Avril, Pink, Michelle Branch, etc.
ProudLBS Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, R. Ramirez said: Moves Like Jagger - 1,066,848,489 Say Something - 946,158,909 Avril wishes she could pull these numbers. and Xtina too with her solo material
Smarticle Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 be careful i got a trolling wp for doing kelly vs. avril
vale9001 Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 As "non fan" of both but casual listener who appreciate both i can't really decide. Seems to me they have similar years of success- Number of hits etc .
naval23 Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 They seem pretty equal. Avril had more commercial success though
ProudLBS Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Power love said: Xtina has never been dropped from a label you've been called out multiple times for spreading that outright LIE. 8 minutes ago, Power love said: more #1s hits that are very well remembered Complicated - 643,529,048 Sk8er Boi - 442,894,828 Girlfriend - 357,680,068 What the Hell - 315,363,583 Genie In a Bottle - 296,329,294 I'm with You - 219,300,913 Head Above Water - 211,368,439 Here's to Never Growing Up - 196,423,004 When You're Gone - 193,731,351 My Happy Ending - 176,595,733 Wish You Were Here - 126,343,825 Keep Holding On - 102,208,517 What a Girl Wants - 89,723,137 Smile - 86,201,206 Bite Me - 85,954,175 Come on over Baby (All I Want Is You) - 85,585,171
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