ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted April 16, 2023 ATRL Administrator Posted April 16, 2023 Really, Communion? 1) the Biden admin wouldn’t handle anything on this kind of granular level. 2) She violated the terms of her agreement when she was hired. As a former federal employee I can assure you she signed a policy and procedures manual for social media conduct and THIS is conduct unbecoming. 3) Blaming Biden for her OWN poor judgement shows she lacks accountability for getting herself fired.
Power love Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ryan said: Blaming Biden for her OWN poor judgement shows she lacks accountability for getting herself fired.
Ice Cream Skies Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 When the “Get Off Twitter Challenge” can save your career…
TheCheshireCat Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ryan said: Really, Communion? 1) the Biden admin wouldn’t handle anything on this kind of granular level. 2) She violated the terms of her agreement when she was hired. As a former federal employee I can assure you she signed a policy and procedures manual for social media conduct and THIS is conduct unbecoming. 3) Blaming Biden for her OWN poor judgement shows she lacks accountability for getting herself fired. Clocked.
Navy4Life Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 I love to see US people bring up dems vs. reps as if they are not the exact same twats whose only goal is to divide the masses and keep them at bay.
Into The Void Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 She should not have posted that especially as a federal employee people should know by now.
Bears01 Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 Back to stanning for China you go Communion, this is stupid
Communion Posted April 16, 2023 Author Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Ryan said: 1) the Biden admin wouldn’t handle anything on this kind of granular level. Accusing a trans woman of lying during such times sets a horrible precedent. That her supervisors and managers tried to retain her employment for such a low level agency - a subset division of the Department of Agriculture - emphasizes how reactionary it is to fire a trans person based on right-wing media articles. This was a Forest Service employee. Who wins from firing her? 16 minutes ago, Ryan said: 2) She violated the terms of her agreement when she was hired. Terms and agreement by which her employer - the federal government - has the right to decide to act or not act on. There's no excuse for a federal agency to fire a trans woman emphasizing her constitutionally protected rights to both 1) own a legal fire arm and 2) the right to self-defense - especially if the Biden administration would want people to believe it supports trans people against growing threats of violence. 16 minutes ago, Ryan said: 3) Blaming Biden for her OWN poor judgement I wouldn't say a trans woman vowing to protect herself in the face of fascist violence is holding poor judgement. How many public officials who are Republicans have done portraits with their families holding their massive gun collections promoting both the 2nd amendment and the right to self defense? This woman is still the governor of South Dakota: But a trans woman owning a gun is a problem for Biden? Edited April 16, 2023 by Communion
Ice Cream Skies Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) Key words: “Probationary period”, “Trainee” (in job title), “probationary employee” Posting a pic holding a gun while inferring retaliation and being readily identifiable… as a probationary Federal employee… yeah, I could not care less. Try logging off Twitter. Edited April 16, 2023 by Ice Cream Skies
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted April 16, 2023 ATRL Administrator Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Communion said: Accusing a trans woman of lying during such times sets a horrible precedent. A liar is a liar, trans or cis. The fact is her post garnered unflattering publicity that could be directly linked back to her job. The facts are what they are, even if it’s not conducive for the narrative she is trying to paint. She violated work policy, engaged in conduct unbecoming a government employee, while a TRAINEE (which means she has no civil service protection) — she deserved to be terminated.
HeavyMetalAura Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 On the one hand, she definitely shouldn’t have posted that on the grounds of it being unprofessional as a federal employee and I’m sure it violates the terms of her contract. I agree 100% with her firing, your public online activity represents your job. I’m sure I’d be fired from my job for posting something like that, as I should be. On the other hand, federal employees with Republican supervisors/under Republican leadership post stuff like that all the time and they get applauded for it from their base, so there is a double standard at play that’s important to acknowledge. But that’s a whole other issue.
FreeXone Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 “If you come for me im taking a few with me” That is what got you fired sis.
Bears01 Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 Just now, Ryan said: A liar is a liar, trans or cis. The fact is her post garnered unflattering publicity that could be directly linked back to her job. The facts are what they are, even if it’s not conducive for the narrative she is trying to paint. She violated work policy, engaged in conduct unbecoming a government employee, while a TRAINEE (which means she has no civil service protection) — she deserved to be terminated. It’s like these people have never even grasped the concept of a professional setting in their lives, and it’s gross I even have to defend Biden’s **** regime, but plenty of employers don’t want you out there posting a gun for the world to see then again, that user spends his time online trying to convince everyone their country should be ran like the CCP ran China, so….
liver Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 another day, another embarrassing thread by the #1 CCP stan
Communion Posted April 16, 2023 Author Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Ryan said: A liar is a liar, trans or cis. And a transphobic institution is a transphobic institution, whether run by Team Blue or Team Red. There's already historical cases of the Biden administration operating under a conservative mindset, like firing federal employees for smoking weed despite such being perfectly legal within D.C.: And just like in those cases - the Biden admin's claim to support marijuana legalization being discredited by actively punishing federal employees for having partaken in legal use of marijuana - the decision of the Biden admin to use their outdated rights to fire employees reflects on what the Biden admin will prioritize and do. The Biden administration granting itself the ability to *legally* do things - like firing people for past *legal* drug usage or blanket vague social media clauses - doesn't then excuse the ethical implications for the Biden admin and its decision to push such right-wing actions. Unless the Biden admin is planning to censure the various Republicans who have posted with their guns on social media? Edited April 16, 2023 by Communion
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted April 16, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted April 16, 2023 She's only receiving as much publicity and pushback from her social media post because she's trans. If a cis person who worked in the department of agriculture posted a picture of them with a gun, nobody would bat an eyelash. The US government does not care about people bearing arms as we've seen by the amount of right-wing Republicans who pose with them in their Christmas cards each year.
ATRL Moderator khalyan Posted April 16, 2023 ATRL Moderator Posted April 16, 2023 Obviously, I don't think Biden really had anything to do with this. "A call from Washington" could mean anything and I doubt Biden is too concerned with this himself. However, it's a pretty obvious double standard between how this woman was punished and how every Republican in government at the moment is applauded for the same action.
loveisdead9582 Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 23 minutes ago, Ryan said: Really, Communion? 1) the Biden admin wouldn’t handle anything on this kind of granular level. 2) She violated the terms of her agreement when she was hired. As a former federal employee I can assure you she signed a policy and procedures manual for social media conduct and THIS is conduct unbecoming. 3) Blaming Biden for her OWN poor judgement shows she lacks accountability for getting herself fired. Literally everything you just said.
JustHoran Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 35 minutes ago, Ryan said: Really, Communion? 1) the Biden admin wouldn’t handle anything on this kind of granular level. 2) She violated the terms of her agreement when she was hired. As a former federal employee I can assure you she signed a policy and procedures manual for social media conduct and THIS is conduct unbecoming. 3) Blaming Biden for her OWN poor judgement shows she lacks accountability for getting herself fired.
Harrier Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 "Biden Admin" oh yes I'm sure the white house signed off on this plus as the other members have argued, her employers were well within their rights. As a non-American, the gun obsessed left is almost as foreign to me as the right. Literally what do the girls think is going to happen, if there is some kind of worst case scenario trans genocide, owning guns isn't going to help you. It's just aesthetics and posturing, contributing to a culture of fear and violence. Guns never make communites safer and that includes guns owned by leftists.
WildAmerican Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 28 minutes ago, Ice Cream Skies said: When the “Get Off Twitter Challenge” can save your career… seems like the OP could learn this too
Communion Posted April 16, 2023 Author Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, khalyan said: Obviously, I don't think Biden really had anything to do with this. "A call from Washington" could mean anything and I doubt Biden is too concerned with this himself. However, it's a pretty obvious double standard between how this woman was punished and how every Republican in government at the moment is applauded for the same action. Yeah, the only defense being put forward being "do you think Biden himself has the time for this??" is - and I hate the term - obviously done in bad faith. Presidents reside over administrations as their figurehead. Administrations are made-up of countless bodies and departments. In the same way that Trump didn't need to personally write deregulation rules or visit the border himself, it was still "Trump's DoJ" or "Trump's DoE", etc. Forest Services is a child agency under the Department of Agriculture. There's no reason to believe a trans woman is lying that her firing came from pressure from Biden's USDA unless one thinks that trans people are not at a heightened degree of being victim to threats of violence compared to cis people. Edited April 16, 2023 by Communion
ClashAndBurn Posted April 16, 2023 Posted April 16, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Bears01 said: it’s gross I even have to defend Biden’s **** regime You really don’t HAVE to do anything of the sort. You are making the choice to defend Biden in a stan war type fashion. Biden has also made the choice to continue firing staff for marijuana possession, even though it’s under his sole discretion. 20 minutes ago, khalyan said: Obviously, I don't think Biden really had anything to do with this. "A call from Washington" could mean anything and I doubt Biden is too concerned with this himself. However, it's a pretty obvious double standard between how this woman was punished and how every Republican in government at the moment is applauded for the same action. At the end of the day, Democrats want guns abolished for law-abiding citizens so that law enforcement can run rough-shod over them. They want more George Floyds and Eric Garners, which is why Biden wants to FUND The Police and militarize them even more than they already are. It’s why Democrats in Atlanta have signed off on Cop City. It’s why they want to expand the surveillance state under the NSA and have AI programs spying on every single Discord server (which was being set up even before the recent push to do so in the wake of the leak by WaPo and NYT in their collaborations with Bellingcat). This is peak virtue signal for Democrats. Turn loose a left-leaning trans woman who promotes arming yourself for self-defense because at the end of the day, they don’t want people to be able to even slightly defend themselves from government and take an agent or two down with them when they come to extrajudicially murder them in the dead of night like they did to Breonna Taylor. Edited April 16, 2023 by ClashAndBurn
ATRL Administrator Ryan Posted April 16, 2023 ATRL Administrator Posted April 16, 2023 Staffers of elected officials technically work for the government because they are being paid, but they are not civil employees. They work at the discretion of their official. So any comparisons to GOP staffers doing similar things, or GOP officials in states doing similar things, is irrelevant. Civil employees work regardless who the admin is. That is who this woman was trying to work for and her conduct is what cost her job. Is there a light because she is trans? Yes. But that doesn’t negate that she shouldn’t have posted what she did.
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