movie Emma Watson and Daniel Radcliffe turned down Harry Potter and the Cursed Child movie

[okgo]

Jeff is a well known insider, he breaks exclusives all the time

Sorry if this was ap, haven't seen it anywhere yet but it's from last week already?

 

cliffs:

- There were talks for a big Cursed Child movie with the original cast

- Emma and Daniel don't want to work with JK Rowling

- Emma's the toughest one to get back

- The studio tried to buy JK Rowling out but she requested an "insane amount"

- Studio wants to keep milking these characters so they're stuck with her

- Solution was to reboot the franchise with the series 

- They're serious about developing it but they're also trying to use it as leverage to get Emma and Daniel back ("if you guys don't come back you're not gonna be Harry Potter anymore, we'll get someone else" so to speak)

- There were pitches for the series to be set in America and in Paris, but JK Rowling shot it down because HP is a British property and should stay true to it

- They will make an effort to have a more diverse cast, particularly for the role of Hermione

- Veteran HP writers are expected to be involved in the series

 

 

Edited April 13, 2023 by okgo

[Arcadius]

I knew it was that evil woman’s fault. 

[Hector]

Proud of them for not siding with transphobia.  

[Michael196]

Quote

"if you guys don't come back you're not gonna be Harry Potter anymore, we'll get someone else"

as if he's still clinging to the role when the series ended over a decade ago, the way many do to their breakout/defining roles...

also, he won't be HP anymore to who?

anyone that lived throughout the run of these movies and even future generations has and will always know Dan's Harry, no matter how many reboots they attempt.

 

Edited April 13, 2023 by Michael196

[Peroxide]

Kudos to Emma and Daniel for standing by their values and not agreeing to the money (and God knows WB offered a lot).

[wastedpotential]

Nobody would've wanted a Cursed Child film either but... of course it's her fault

[Terylee]

- There were pitches for the series to be set in America and in Paris,

 

Yeah, sure.

[Josh]

Emma and Daniel deserve to move on from the Harry Potter world they dont need to be chained to it forever 

[GabeInPolaroids]

THANK GOD they turned down Cursed Child. THANK GOD.

And it's only a matter of time they turn Cursed Child into a movie. No matter how bad it is, they don't care about that. And with a new cast they will have no problem with the actors who died - Allan, for example. We don't want it, but it will happen of course.

[Mordecai]

23 minutes ago, okgo said:

- They will make an effort to have a more diverse cast, particularly for the role of Hermione

Can they please stop reimagining characters for the sake of diversity, it benefits nobody. Representation is important but nobody wants a black Hermione - let's put that energy into creating new and original diverse characters whose stories deserve to be told

 

OT: Wonder how this will go down. Daniel/Rupert/Emma are still their characters so any recasting is going to get some people upset lol

[Rence]

Good. The Cursed Child story is trash anyway 

[Kavish]

I feel like the actors would have turned it down even if the issues with Rowling didn't happen.  The Cursed Child doesn't have much to do with her and isn't essentially canon despite what she said.  She did not write any of it and the author - Jack Thorne - only approached her for ideas which she green-lit, and as a result we got a bad book/play.  That movie would have been panned by critics and fans alike.  

[Zack]

5 minutes ago, Mordecai said:

Can they please stop reimagining characters for the sake of diversity, it benefits nobody. Representation is important but nobody wants a black Hermione - let's put that energy into creating new and original diverse characters whose stories deserve to be told

Your protestations are interesting, since as far as I'm aware, Hermione's skin color/race is never explicitly referred to in the books.

 

Source....Rowling herself:

 

OT: I think this TV series will turn out to be a mistake, but we'll see.

[Otter]

They need to just do a spinoff, but base the lead around an iconic character and not someone like Newt. 

 

[Keter]

He was never gonna be Harry Potter again in any full capacity anyway. The reboot is a great idea and doing it as a series is an even better one. 

[Venice B]

Of course Emma wouldn't want to come back, she almost ditched the film series after the fifth film why would she want to come back for Cursed Child years after and now that the author revelaed to be a transphobic mess?  

 

47 minutes ago, okgo said:

- Veteran HP writers are expected to be involved in the series

Well... it's over 

[Sombre]

Cursed Child is not even written by JK, but regardless it's not movie-worthy at all.

[Robert]

Imagine ruining your own franchise 

 

She seems to have a lot less input in the play version though as when I saw it, one of the main leads was trans non-binary and it was much more explicitly queer than the book.

 

Good on Dan and Emma for choosing their morals

[Konril]

Good on Dan and Emma.

[Mordecai]

9 minutes ago, Zack said:

Your protestations are interesting, since as far as I'm aware, Hermione's skin color/race is never explicitly referred to in the books.

 

Source....Rowling herself:

 

OT: I think this TV series will turn out to be a mistake, but we'll see.

Well I imagine Doctor Who wasn't ever explicitly written as a white man either and I would still say casting a woman or black person in the role for the sake of diversity was unnecessary.

 

But I understand where you're coming from. My point is that even if her race wasn't referred to in the books, recharacterising Hermione for the sake of diversity is dumb. Why reimagine characters when you can make new ones, especially when Hollywood is being so cheap and doing constant and unnecessary reboots and remakes of things.

[Vespertine]

Emma and Dan > 

 

Unfortunately, my love for this franchise has completely dried up, but I will always feel a sort of nostalgic fondness for the cast of the movies. They're smart to keep it that way for everyone.

[Redstreak]

23 minutes ago, Zack said:

Your protestations are interesting, since as far as I'm aware, Hermione's skin color/race is never explicitly referred to in the books.

 

Source....Rowling herself:

 

OT: I think this TV series will turn out to be a mistake, but we'll see.

There’s a passage in like the third book where she’s specifically described as white

[Zack]

Just now, Mordecai said:

Well I imagine Doctor Who wasn't ever explicitly written as a white man either and I would still say casting a woman or black person in the role for the sake of diversity was unnecessary.

 

But I understand where you're coming from. My point is that even if her race wasn't referred to in the books, recharacterising Hermione for the sake of diversity is dumb. Why reimagine characters when you can make new ones, especially when Hollywood is being so cheap and doing constant and unnecessary reboots and remakes of things.

Doctor Who is in a different situation since the source material has portrayed the character as a white male for literally decades, so that was largely accepted as canon. It's the same for arguments that James Bond should be re-casted with a non-white actor, since those books do actually go into detail about his appearance and it is clear he is intended to be white by the author.

 

This is not the case for Hermione, since the source material clearly doesn't detail her race in any prescriptive detail. So the point is, that she is not being "reimagined" or "re-characterized" in any way, since the original source material is already open to interpretation.

 

The fact that she's white in the movies and certain illustrations is just one interpretation of the source material. The fact that she's black in the Cursed Child play is another interpretation and both are correct. I don't think it's specifically for the "sake" of diversity. If anything movie adaptations have a long way to go in challenging historical white washing, so this is a positive development to me at least.

[TheOnlyOne]

32 minutes ago, Mordecai said:

Can they please stop reimagining characters for the sake of diversity, it benefits nobody. Representation is important but nobody wants a black Hermione - let's put that energy into creating new and original diverse characters whose stories deserve to be told

 

OT: Wonder how this will go down. Daniel/Rupert/Emma are still their characters so any recasting is going to get some people upset lol

Stop projecting what YOU don't want for everyone feeling the same. You sound like a typical racist republican complaining about diversity as if diversifying appeal to a wide array of audiences is somehow harming you in any way. Grow tf up. 

 

I want a black Hermione. As do many others.

 

 

[Venice B]

6 minutes ago, Redstreak said:

There’s a passage in like the third book where she’s specifically described as white

We all know about that one and every single person with an ounce of reading comprehension can understand that "her face was white" because she was scared shitless. That's the only time in seven books where she comes close to describing Hermione's skin color and she only did that to evoke her fear in that situation.